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Hulk is walking down the street he happens upon Classic Juggernaut they start fighting and Juggernaut realizes hulk is to enraged to defeat Hulk so he turns on is force field and starts taunting Hulk like a red flag to a bull Hulk starts getting angrer and angrer can Juggernaut's force withstand blow after blow from Hulk?

No

Originally posted by golem370
Hulk is walking down the street he happens upon Classic Juggernaut they start fighting and Juggernaut realizes hulk is to enraged to defeat Hulk so he turns on is force field and starts taunting Hulk like a red flag to a bull Hulk starts getting angrer and angrer can Juggernaut's force withstand blow after blow from Hulk?
yes,
God Blast> Hulk's punches

not punch after punch after punch a single punch yes continues punching with Hulks rage continuing to increase no.

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Originally posted by golem370
Hulk is walking down the street he happens upon Classic Juggernaut they start fighting and Juggernaut realizes hulk is to enraged to defeat Hulk so he turns on is force field and starts taunting Hulk like a red flag to a bull Hulk starts getting angrer and angrer can Juggernaut's force withstand blow after blow from Hulk?

Savage/Mindless/WW. These incarnations of the Hulk. I am staying with Hulk. Cain is tough. He is. Guy222 says that. IMHO, no one matches Hulk's infinite rage. If u differ, I am excited for u. Hulk wins for me

This is more like Hulk's strength vs Classic Juggernauts Force Field.

Still Hulk wins he gets angrier and angrier and in the end he will punch through time isn't a factor here, so basically seeing how Hulk almost never tires and seen how he supported a mountain in secret wars and held that up thanks to the rage given to him by Reed Richards and you saying that he will continue to grow more angry then hulk will win.

the juggernaut is invincible crowed are a bit loopy of logic.
it's not controversial that Cyttorak gets his arse handed to him by Galactus (as per the thread I made on this topic), yet by some bizarre twist of hulk-spite and juggernaut-o-philia, anyone standing upto that one trick pony is by definition facing an impossible physical task.

just how blummin' powerful is Cyttorak. Hulk's rage-strength correlation is not linear nor even all that necessary, he has no upper limit and he can access (to all intents and purposes) infinite power to fuel his physical strength.

even Cyttorak has a limit, clearly beneath Galactus. juggy his little pony, would be far more limited.

golem, none of the scans are working

no force field wont hold

Originally posted by janus77
the juggernaut is invincible crowed are a bit loopy of logic.
it's not controversial that Cyttorak gets his arse handed to him by Galactus (as per the thread I made on this topic), yet by some bizarre twist of hulk-spite and juggernaut-o-philia, anyone standing upto that one trick pony is by definition facing an impossible physical task.

just how blummin' powerful is Cyttorak. Hulk's rage-strength correlation is not linear nor even all that necessary, he has no upper limit and he can access (to all intents and purposes) infinite power to fuel his physical strength.

even Cyttorak has a limit, clearly beneath Galactus. juggy his little pony, would be far more limited.

You realizes that losing to Galactus doesn't make you weak right?

In fact the only way this logic works is if you assume that Hulk is on Galactus' level.

you realise I'm stating as fact, that Cyttorak is not capable of granting infinite power, thus his little one trick pony is nowhere near "invincible".
ergo, firmly within the sphere of the physical might of The Hulk.


you should appreciate that this is not the same thing as saying The Hulk = Cyttorak, he clearly does not and never will. Cyttorak's power is magical and he could most likely transform and or kill Hulk with it.

same as Galactus would simply sap the gamma and squish banner or transmute Hulk into butter...

Originally posted by janus77
the juggernaut is invincible crowed are a bit loopy of logic.
it's not controversial that Cyttorak gets his arse handed to him by Galactus (as per the thread I made on this topic), yet by some bizarre twist of hulk-spite and juggernaut-o-philia, anyone standing upto that one trick pony is by definition facing an impossible physical task.

just how blummin' powerful is Cyttorak. Hulk's rage-strength correlation is not linear nor even all that necessary, he has no upper limit and he can access (to all intents and purposes) infinite power to fuel his physical strength.

even Cyttorak has a limit, clearly beneath Galactus. juggy his little pony, would be far more limited. So, Hulk's strength is unlimited, is what you're saying?

So, Hulk can get stronger than Galactus, LT, Eternity, etc?

does Galactus have a limit on his strength? does he have a finite power source?

it's also worth considering that there are different orders of infinite.. big and small (all numbers, real numbers, odd numbers, even numbers). these are a might abstract, but I think they're still easy to grasp.

given that the source of Hulk's strength is itself infinite, that he has no limitations on just how much power he accesses... it's reasonable to say there are no limits other than whatever a given writer wishes to impose for the sake of a plot.


now bring it back to strength versus the juggy charm of Cyttorak. unlimited strength versus a very powerful charm. the longer it goes, the more it favours The Hulk.

Originally posted by janus77
does Galactus have a limit on his strength? does he have a finite power source?

it's also worth considering that there are different orders of infinite.. big and small (all numbers, real numbers, odd numbers, even numbers). these are a might abstract, but I think they're still easy to grasp.

given that the source of Hulk's strength is itself infinite, that he has no limitations on just how much power he accesses... it's reasonable to say there are no limits other than whatever a given writer wishes to impose for the sake of a plot.


now bring it back to strength versus the juggy charm of Cyttorak. unlimited strength versus a very powerful charm. the longer it goes, the more it favours The Hulk.

you are talking about the example given by kosmos and kubik on the celestial, correct.

And considering Galactus had a infinite powersource then he would be around the highest infinite numbers

Originally posted by bigbran
So, Hulk's strength is unlimited, is what you're saying?

So, Hulk can get stronger than Galactus, LT, Eternity, etc?

why not? Galactus got punked by alpha flight...

And Marvel Clearly stated (on many occasions) that Hulk has unlimited strength.

Originally posted by Utrigita
you are talking about the example given by kosmos and kubik on the celestial, correct.

And considering Galactus had a infinite powersource then he would be around the highest infinite numbers
umm, you mean the stuff about the various orders of infinity?
I sort of paraphrased/rehashed stuff from high school maths lessons.


I just don't get the inability to process these ideas, that some people seem to have.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
why not? Galactus got punked by alpha flight...

And Marvel Clearly stated (on many occasions) that Hulk has unlimited strength.

Haven't they also stated that Juggy is unstoppable?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Haven't they also stated that Juggy is unstoppable? but he's been stopped

only juggernaut states that, as far as I'm aware (I could be wrong, I don't read much juggy material).

and anyway, it has been proven that he can be stopped. again, I'm rather bemused by the idea that the WarHulk-juggernaut scans are now illustrations of "Hulk judo" or whatever other excuse people imaginatively impose upon the pictures and text... then there's Onslaught's many wreckings of juggy, Thor's halting of juggy (followed by the ground giving way, iirc)...
I'm sure others can point to many more examples, I'm just going by what I've seen here, when I've cared to look.

it's quite clear that there's an order of difference in the Hulk's stated, explicit and essential unlimited strength, and the juggernaut's bluster.

Originally posted by Hercules
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