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The Goddamn Batman
Bruce Banner
Gladiator
Hank Pym
Lex Luthor
Reed Richards
Tony Stark
Superman

If superman has too much of advantage, say who gets second place.

Lex Luthor.

When he takes viagra he grows a few inches taller.

on KMC threads id say Reed.

When bada is logged on id go with Batman

If I can add my own character id say Thanos

Wow... I read this thread wrong when I took a quick glance. I thought it said "who has".

WTF

I just added Gladiator, because he is one of the biggest assholes in marvel. Revise your choices appropriately.

Originally posted by Simbon
I just added Gladiator, because he is one of the biggest assholes in marvel. Revise your choices appropriately. can u add Thanos please ?

Originally posted by Simbon
I just added Gladiator, because he is one of the biggest assholes in marvel. Revise your choices appropriately.

I can't believe you just did that.

Originally posted by chomperx9
can u add Thanos please ?

Dickdom, to me, involves a certain amount of pettiness, and Thanos isn't very petty (with a few exceptions, like making fun of hulk's limited mental capacity).

pym isn't really a dick, imo. He's a product of years of people giving him shit. It's not built in, like it is for Lex etc.

Luke Cage.

Superman can be the biggest dick in the world if he wants too. And the first thing i want to see, is him walking up to Bruce and flick him half way across the world, nd want Bruce demands an answer. Clark just respond that his ****ing Superman *****.

I'd pay top dollar to read a Superman comic like that.

http://superdickery.com/images/stories/dick/1027_4_115.jpg

Originally posted by -Pr-
pym isn't really a dick, imo. He's a product of years of people giving him shit. It's not built in, like it is for Lex etc. Fanboy! ohno

http://www.cracked.com/article_19105_6-comics-that-covered-serious-issues-failed-hilariously_p2.html

scroll down to the superman one

That sounds like terrible writing.

I'd go with Stark or Nick Fury. Civil War and Secret Invasion being driving points respectively.

Out of the people listed I'd have to go with Superman just based on his "holier than thou" attitude and reluctance to do what is necessary no matter how many lives are endangered. There are a few others that I thought should have been listed like Norman Osborne certainly can be a dick, En Sabah Nur aka Apocalypse has a tendency towards dick-dom , and Lobo, although I must admit that Lobo hilarious. could be considered a dick.

I can't believe people think Superman is more of a dick than Lex Luthor.

For the person above me, only a poorly written Superman is portrayed as Holier than Thou.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Out of the people listed I'd have to go with Superman just based on his "holier than thou" attitude and reluctance to do what is necessary no matter how many lives are endangered. There are a few others that I thought should have been listed like Norman Osborne certainly can be a dick, En Sabah Nur aka Apocalypse has a tendency towards dick-dom , and Lobo, although I must admit that Lobo hilarious. could be considered a dick.

Except that Superman has done that. He's been willing to do it other times too.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I can't believe people think Superman is more of a dick than Lex Luthor.

For the person above me, only a poorly written Superman is portrayed as Holier than Thou.

Wait a minute, I just recognize something. Is it a joke that Banner and Superman is on that list? What instances were Superman or Banner being a dick?

You have GOT to be playing.

For the Record: My superman dickness was a joke. No way do I think he's a dick...

That said:
http://superdickery.com/images/stories/dick/1296_4_063.jpg

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Out of the people listed I'd have to go with Superman just based on his "holier than thou" attitude and reluctance to do what is necessary no matter how many lives are endangered. There are a few others that I thought should have been listed like Norman Osborne certainly can be a dick, En Sabah Nur aka Apocalypse has a tendency towards dick-dom , and Lobo, although I must admit that Lobo hilarious. could be considered a dick. Agreed

Supe really needs to come down off his high horse and bring all his fans with him. But they'll never let that happen because he's just SOOOOO goddamn perfect!

Originally posted by Entity
Agreed

Supe really needs to come down off his high horse and bring all his fans with him. But they'll never let that happen because so just SOOOOO goddamn perfect! So just so goddamn perfect???

Originally posted by Blight
For the Record: My superman dickness was a joke. No way do I think he's a dick...

That said:
http://superdickery.com/images/stories/dick/1296_4_063.jpg

I love it! So very true!

Originally posted by Blight
So just so goddamn perfect??? He's always so damn certain he knows best and he's up on his damn holier then thou high horse. Looking down on all those mortals that make questionable decisions that get things done and save lives rather than let the world burn jus to be completely clean and free of sin. It degust me. Like how he treats Bruce or Diana or any other character who's methods he doesn't like even thou they did something that needed to be done rather than just sit back and secured their own peace of mind and innocents at the expense of letting the villain win.

Just look at how he treated Diana after she killed Lord to save her life and keep him from becoming a killer. Let alone what all else Max could've done with Superman under his complete control. Or how he's talked down to Bruce or Ollie despite the numerous times they've saved his life or others or proven theirselves to be capable heroes despite their lack of powers.

I remember one story where he gave Bruce this long lecture on why he shouldn't be hiding behind a mask and letting his friends know who he is, but how is what he does any different besides the fact that not all imperfect humans have the luxury of completely negating all observation logic reason and common sense in order to hide their identity without any effort at all. By the end of the story it turned out they were dealing with a white martian impersonator of Bruce Wayne and if the other heroes Batman had enlisted to help had known the martain would have known instantly their plan and be able to beat them all. Thus proving that there is a reason to keep secrets and do questionable things at times.

The world just isn't as black and white and good always finds a way for the rest of us as Superman wants to say it is. Even if his luck always seems to have it able to work out for him.

Originally posted by SquallX
Superman can be the biggest dick in the world if he wants too. And the first thing i want to see, is him walking up to Bruce and flick him half way across the world, nd want Bruce demands an answer. Clark just respond that his ****ing Superman *****.

I'd pay top dollar to read a Superman comic like that.

I'd also pay big bucks. Hopefully, or eventually something like this will happen so people can actually say Superman is a d*ck!!..

I think Bruce is the biggest douch in comics, considering he's a hero. Villains by nature should be douches, so Lex, Darkseid or Doom don't count. I can't get over Blue Beetles death, The Killing Joke and Jason Todd's death.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute, I just recognize something. Is it a joke that Banner and Superman is on that list? What instances were Superman or Banner being a dick?

You have GOT to be playing.

Banner repeatedly ****s over his entire world because he can't get a handle on his anger issues. Sounds pretty dickish to me.

As for Superman:

http://superdickery.com/images/stories/dick/1296_4_081.jpg
http://superdickery.com/images/stories/dick/97_4_0000311.jpg
http://superdickery.com/images/stories/dick/1027_4_098.jpg
http://superdickery.com/images/stories/dick/1027_4_108.jpg

Originally posted by SquallX
Superman can be the biggest dick in the world if he wants too. And the first thing i want to see, is him walking up to Bruce and flick him half way across the world, nd want Bruce demands an answer. Clark just respond that his ****ing Superman *****.

I'd pay top dollar to read a Superman comic like that.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10959/Batman_vs_superman.jpg

Here's another one.

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I laughed my ass off when i first saw those videos.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute, I just recognize something. Is it a joke that Banner and Superman is on that list? What instances were Superman or Banner being a dick?

You have GOT to be playing.

Superdickery.

Originally posted by Entity
He's always so damn certain he knows best and he's up on his damn holier then thou high horse. Looking down on all those mortals that make questionable decisions that get things done and save lives rather than let the world burn jus to be completely clean and free of sin. It degust me. Like how he treats Bruce or Diana or any other character who's methods he doesn't like even thou they did something that needed to be done rather than just sit back and secured their own peace of mind and innocents at the expense of letting the villain win.

Just look at how he treated Diana after she killed Lord to save her life and keep him from becoming a killer. Let alone what all else Max could've done with Superman under his complete control. Or how he's talked down to Bruce or Ollie despite the numerous times they've saved his life or others or proven theirselves to be capable heroes despite their lack of powers.

I remember one story where he gave Bruce this long lecture on why he shouldn't be hiding behind a mask and letting his friends know who he is, but how is what he does any different besides the fact that not all imperfect humans have the luxury of completely negating all observation logic reason and common sense in order to hide their identity without any effort at all. By the end of the story it turned out they were dealing with a white martian impersonator of Bruce Wayne and if the other heroes Batman had enlisted to help had known the martain would have known instantly their plan and be able to beat them all. Thus proving that there is a reason to keep secrets and do questionable things at times.

The world just isn't as black and white and good always finds a way for the rest of us as Superman wants to say it is. Even if his luck always seems to have it able to work out for him.

i don't mind if you hate Superman, but please, get your facts straight if you're going to try and do it?

Gladiator
Namor
Black Adam
Doom
Sebastian Shaw

Originally posted by dmills
Gladiator
Namor
Black Adam
Doom
Sebastian Shaw

That is an excellent list, and I really should have included those guys. At first I thought it would just be brainiacs, but then I had to add supes, and then Gladiator. I guess its a slippery-slope.

Right now, superdickery aside, I am actually leaning towards Gladiator as the biggest dick. Not only has he routinely acted as an arrogant prick, committed heinous deeds under the pretense of "just following orders," but he even allowed Vulcan to kill half the imperial guard before deciding to WTF pwn him. That's what space-knights call Alpha-class plus douchebaggery.

I won't pick Luthor, because he's a villain.

I say it's a toss-up between Wayne, Pym and Stark, with Stark having a slight edge, because he can be downright an ******* when he feels like it.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I won't pick Luthor, because he's a villain.

I say it's a toss-up between Wayne, Pym and Stark, with Stark having a slight edge, because he can be downright an ******* when he feels like it. I'd say Nick Fury definitely deserves to be here.

Superman has to be the biggest dick....especially on his 90s cartoon and the 2000s Justice league show. He wined and bitched and moaned and bossed and talked down to everyone.

In the episode with Shazam/captain marvel he acted like a jealous little girl when Marvel was around. I am glad marvel took the fight to him!!!!!!

Batman is not a dick he is just confident and knows what he is doing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superdickery.



i don't mind if you hate Superman, but please, get your facts straight if you're going to try and do it? Could you please specify exactly which of my facts aren't straight enough for you so I can clarify?

Superman is a dick ok people? but reed richards and stark are much much worse and top the list. their self-righteous, judgemental, pompous, know-it-all, pedantic dickery is off the charts

luthor and doom are by far the most arrogant and narcisistic ones, but they are down right delluded and evil, which, IMO, hinders the use of the concept to describe them.

Edit:I've just recalled SM promising to destroy the planet if the soul of the world decided to wipe the usa out. disregard my previous post, SM wins this.

Originally posted by Simbon
That is an excellent list, and I really should have included those guys. At first I thought it would just be brainiacs, but then I had to add supes, and then Gladiator. I guess its a slippery-slope.

Right now, superdickery aside, I am actually leaning towards Gladiator as the biggest dick. Not only has he routinely acted as an arrogant prick, committed heinous deeds under the pretense of "just following orders," but he even allowed Vulcan to kill half the imperial guard before deciding to WTF pwn him. That's what space-knights call Alpha-class plus douchebaggery.

Huh?

He is arrogant, I agree with that but he isn't a dick.

I think you are using the word wrong buddy.

Originally posted by Entity
He's always so damn certain he knows best and he's up on his damn holier then thou high horse. Looking down on all those mortals that make questionable decisions that get things done and save lives rather than let the world burn jus to be completely clean and free of sin. It degust me. Like how he treats Bruce or Diana or any other character who's methods he doesn't like even thou they did something that needed to be done rather than just sit back and secured their own peace of mind and innocents at the expense of letting the villain win.

Just look at how he treated Diana after she killed Lord to save her life and keep him from becoming a killer. Let alone what all else Max could've done with Superman under his complete control. Or how he's talked down to Bruce or Ollie despite the numerous times they've saved his life or others or proven theirselves to be capable heroes despite their lack of powers.

I remember one story where he gave Bruce this long lecture on why he shouldn't be hiding behind a mask and letting his friends know who he is, but how is what he does any different besides the fact that not all imperfect humans have the luxury of completely negating all observation logic reason and common sense in order to hide their identity without any effort at all. By the end of the story it turned out they were dealing with a white martian impersonator of Bruce Wayne and if the other heroes Batman had enlisted to help had known the martain would have known instantly their plan and be able to beat them all. Thus proving that there is a reason to keep secrets and do questionable things at times.

The world just isn't as black and white and good always finds a way for the rest of us as Superman wants to say it is. Even if his luck always seems to have it able to work out for him.

I was going to kind agree with Omega Vision but that reminded me of what happened at the beginning of Infinite Crisis. Wonder Woman saves his life no thank you justs gives her a lecture. Still not as bad as Lex but thats god damn annoying.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Superman has to be the biggest dick....especially on his 90s cartoon and the 2000s Justice league show. He wined and bitched and moaned and bossed and talked down to everyone.

In the episode with Shazam/captain marvel he acted like a jealous little girl when Marvel was around. I am glad marvel took the fight to him!!!!!!

Batman is not a dick he is just confident and knows what he is doing.

And Batman would screw anyone he call friends just for his benefit. Have you see the shits Batman has done to the JLA. Hell the man created the OMAC project to spy on all meta, because he doesn't trust them. He even went so far that he has a list of all the JLA weakness, and because of his stupidity, it fell in enemies hands.

^ Batman actually did the right thing.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute, I just recognize something. Is it a joke that Banner and Superman is on that list? What instances were Superman or Banner being a dick?

You have GOT to be playing.
Superman acts like a dick every time he tries to impose his black and white morality in a world of grey. As for Banner I remember back when he was trying to train Skaar to kill the Hulk, the way he used Wolverine, Daken, and Juggernaut could be considered dickish. The only time I really remember Pym being a dick is when he hit his wife, most of the time he is just playing along with whatever Stark and Richards tell him.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Superman acts like a dick every time he tries to impose his black and white morality in a world of grey. As for Banner I remember back when he was trying to train Skaar to kill the Hulk, the way he used Wolverine, Daken, and Juggernaut could be considered dickish. The only time I really remember Pym being a dick is when he hit his wife, most of the time he is just playing along with whatever Stark and Richards tell him.

To be fair I think mood altering drugs were changing his personality (Pym).

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Superman acts like a dick every time he tries to impose his black and white morality in a world of grey.
Can you cite some actual instances of this rather than just making blanket statements?

And Tony Stark and Reed Richards racked up more dick points in Civil War alone than Superman has in his entire Post Crisis career.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Can you cite some actual instances of this rather than just making blanket statements?



Infinite Crisis, possibly Time and Time again.

damn, i read the title incorrectly... (no homo)

Originally posted by Deadline
^ Batman actually did the right thing.

So it's okay for Batman to screw over the people he calls friends.

Originally posted by SquallX
So it's okay for Batman to screw over the people he calls friends.

He didnt screw them over he was suspicious and had every reason to. Sometimes suspicion doesn't even come into it, he was making precautions just in case (one of them gets mindcontrolled or goes mad).

Originally posted by Deadline
Infinite Crisis, possibly Time and Time again.

Tbh, that wasn't just Superman with Sacrifice, that seemed to be the whole fraternity of heroes criticizing Wondy for killing Lord. I thought it was kind of naive and overly idealistic of them, to criticize her decision given the circumstances.

I don't think it falls into Superman's average portrayals at all, because he'd already shown with Doomsday that he's also willing to kill as a last resort.

Originally posted by Deadline
He didnt screw them over he was suspicious and had every reason to. Sometimes suspicion doesn't even come into it, he was making precautions just in case (one of them gets mindcontrolled or goes mad).
Personally if I lived in a world where people like Superman and Martian Manhunter existed--people who if they went bad could **** the world apart without breaking a sweat--I'd be thankful for a person like Batman devising contingency plans.

In a perfect world Batman wouldn't need to go behind his friends' backs like that, but even at its most idyllic DC still isn't a perfect world.

Originally posted by Deadline
Infinite Crisis, possibly Time and Time again.
Yeah that was a rather dumb moment in an otherwise great story.

Still doesn't top Reed Richards exiling dissidents to the Negative Zone during Civil War

Yeah, given the types of cosmic threats out there, contingencies are a must, you never know who'll be mind controlled or influenced.

The only problem I have with Bats being the one with the contingencies is that...he's only one, it seems, with the contingencies. I think each hero, should have personal contingencies for themselves and even for their team mates in turn.

other than petty street villains, I wouldn't really term any villain as a dick. Just doesn't seem right.

Reed is a dick. Pym is not a dick, he's too much of an underdog character to be a dick, and is currently too awesome and high minded to be a dick.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
other than petty street villains, I wouldn't really term any villain as a dick. Just doesn't seem right.

Reed is a dick. Pym is not a dick, he's too much of an underdog character to be a dick, and is currently too awesome and high minded to be a dick.

Unless his slapping his wife.

It's funny how Reed Richards has also slapped his wife and doesn't get nearly as much shit as Pym.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/162/353100790_4d7c76a33b.jpg

And yes, I know there's context, but then there was context to the Pym incident too.

Originally posted by SquallX
Unless his slapping his wife.

sometime bitches just need to be reminded of their place

nah jk, I don't read a bunch but Banner was a total pompous dick when he was in human mode.

Now all we need is for Superman to slap Lois, and accidentally snaps her neck, and thus we have or next crisis.

And with Superman as the dick we know he can be, blames it all on Luthor.

Superman's relationship with Lois is head and shoulders better than 90% of superhero marriages IMO.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Superman's relationship with Lois is head and shoulders better than 90% of superhero marriages IMO.

I know that, i just got tired of her character.

Do i hate her character? Not really. Do i want her dead, and give Superman someone that could actually kick his ass, someone that doesn't get kidnapped in every issue? Hell yes.

Originally posted by SquallX
And Batman would screw anyone he call friends just for his benefit. Have you see the shits Batman has done to the JLA. Hell the man created the OMAC project to spy on all meta, because he doesn't trust them. He even went so far that he has a list of all the JLA weakness, and because of his stupidity, it fell in enemies hands.

See I didn't know all that about him. Dosen't make him a dick makes him cautious

I've always found Stark a complete dick, even way before Civil War, anyone remember Armor Wars?

He disabled the Guardsmen's armor at the Vault which allowed a bunch of Super Criminals to escape just because they had his stolen tech incorporated into them.

I loved it when Thor put him in his place, way overdue!

most popular charatcers out there are in need of some humbling.

Originally posted by SquallX
Now all we need is for Superman to slap Lois, and accidentally snaps her neck, and thus we have or next crisis.


If only that happened.

They should like say "**** it!" and experiment with different things like having a villain expose Superman's secret identity and/or have them kidnap/kill Lois or some shit that will shake the mythos. Supes needs something to make people go "Ok now...that I didn't see coming"

Originally posted by Zack Fair
If only that happened.

They should like say "**** it!" and experiment with different things like having a villain expose Superman's secret identity and/or have them kidnap/kill Lois or some shit that will shake the mythos. Supes needs something to make people go "Ok now...that I didn't see coming"

The thing is, the writers are mostly afraid of doing something like that. Pretty sure if in the back of there mind.

That's also why elseworld exist, and one of Superman best pairing was him and Diana.

I know writters are pussies when it comes to altering Superman's status quo, but really with all the ****ing crisis events and retcons they can end up retconing the damn thing in the long run. Who knows.

They tried to evolve superman into superman red and blue...

And then went and changed it back cause the fanbase cried about it.

Originally posted by rotiart
They tried to evolve superman into superman red and blue...

And then went and changed it back cause the fanbase cried about it. Doesn't change the fact that it was down right silly how they went about the whole scenario.

I don't see why DC would or should change Superman just for the sake of changing him. He's basically their rock, their anchor.

And though I know there are lots of butthurt haters who want to avoid admitting this, he IS the single most important character in DC Comics, arguably in comics in general.

When someone says 'Superhero' I think of Superman smiling in his classic red and blue costume with his old fashioned haircut.

You can explore a character without seriously altering the status quo, its called being good at writing and not relying on gimmicks and WHAM!! moments to write a story or character.

Originally posted by Entity
Could you please specify exactly which of my facts aren't straight enough for you so I can clarify?

Pretty much your entire paragraph, tbh. And that's not intended to be bitchy.

He's not holier than thou. to write him as such would be out of character. if anything, superman is humble to a fault, and doesn't condescend to anyone. he stands up to villains and tells them to back down, but that's different.

to portray superman as being "holier than thou" is blatantly inaccurate.

bruce was worse to diana than clark was. clark actually had doubts about it all, as lois agreed with what diana did. and it was even clark that brought them together to reform the jla, and put it all behind them.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Superman's relationship with Lois is head and shoulders better than 90% of superhero marriages IMO.

and she's still a *****.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't see why DC would or should change Superman just for the sake of changing him. He's basically their rock, their anchor.

And though I know there are lots of butthurt haters who want to avoid admitting this, he IS the single most important character in DC Comics, arguably in comics in general.

When someone says 'Superhero' I think of Superman smiling in his classic red and blue costume with his old fashioned haircut.

You can explore a character without seriously altering the status quo, its called being good at writing and not relying on gimmicks and WHAM!! moments to write a story or character.

which they've done with Superman. For Tomorrow, The Journey, Till Death Do Us Part, etc etc

Originally posted by -Pr-
Pretty much your entire paragraph, tbh. And that's not intended to be bitchy.

He's not holier than thou. to write him as such would be out of character. if anything, superman is humble to a fault, and doesn't condescend to anyone. he stands up to villains and tells them to back down, but that's different.

to portray superman as being "holier than thou" is blatantly inaccurate.

bruce was worse to diana than clark was. clark actually had doubts about it all, as lois agreed with what diana did. and it was even clark that brought them together to reform the jla, and put it all behind them.



and she's still a *****.



which they've done with Superman. For Tomorrow, The Journey, Till Death Do Us Part, etc etc
I love and hate the Batman vs Superman fight from For Tomorrow. On the one hand its probably one of the few honest depictions of how a real fight between them should go (Batman basically being all but useless against Clark's speed) while on the other it was one of the worst OOC moments for Batman in recent years. Him trying to go straight melee with a guy he knows can dodge all his attacks and who thanks to his durability really doesn't need to dodge them anyway was just retarded.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I love and hate the Batman vs Superman fight from For Tomorrow. On the one hand its probably one of the few honest depictions of how a real fight between them should go (Batman basically being all but useless against Clark's speed) while on the other it was one of the worst OOC moments for Batman in recent years. Him trying to go straight melee with a guy he knows can dodge all his attacks and who thanks to his durability really doesn't need to dodge them anyway was just retarded.

When did they fight in For Tomorrow?

The "making your job look easy" scene.

Originally posted by -Pr-
When did they fight in For Tomorrow?
I can't remember what issue, but it was when the JLA was getting all rawr on Superman. Fairly certain it was before the Wonder Woman fight.

As I recall the "fight" consisted of Batman popping in and asking "what do you think you're doing?"

I think Superman replied. "Making your job look easy." Batman then tried to kick him, Superman dodged, and this repeated itself for a few times while Batman generally looked like a dumb kid throwing a tantrum. Superman warned him toward the end that if he kept it up he'd stop dodging and let Batman hit him and break every bone in his arm.

This is all from memory though, its been a while.

Edit: Damn it, Phil. uhuh

iirc it was one punch. you might be mixing it up with hush, maybe?

Originally posted by -Pr-
iirc it was one punch. you might be mixing it up with hush, maybe?
Maybe.

Like I said, been a while.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Maybe.

Like I said, been a while.

Ah. You didn't like that Bruce lashed out?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Ah. You didn't like that Bruce lashed out?
It's more that he did it in a non-Batman way.

Bruce lashing out is fine. But Bruce trying to punch Superman when he probably knows damn well its a futile gesture that can only end with him either tiring himself out punching empty air or breaking his hand punching something harder than steel is OOC to me.

Batman should be a lot more collected and rational than that even when he's pissed.

Besides, Batwords have on occasion proved stronger than Batpunches anyway.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's more that he did it in a non-Batman way.

Bruce lashing out is fine. But Bruce trying to punch Superman when he probably knows damn well its a futile gesture that can only end with him either tiring himself out punching empty air or breaking his hand punching something harder than steel is OOC to me.

Batman should be a lot more collected and rational than that even when he's pissed.

Besides, Batwords have on occasion proved stronger than Batpunches anyway.

lol. sure, i guess.

1- Tony Stark: For being part of the Illuminati and choosing to send Hulk in space, unlike Namor and Charles Xavier, for hiding an infinity gem, for cloning Thor, for being a prime ******* during Civil War. He's not only a dick, he's an *******, and all the ass kicking he received in the past few years are completly legit. (I'm thinking of the ones given by Thor and by Hulk)

2- Reed Richards: All the things Stark did, Richards did too. Plus, he constructed the prison in the negative zone, during Civil War, and is a terrible husband.

3- Bruce Wayne: For having a plan on "How to murder my hommies if I have to", for being too soft on the Joker (I'm not for the Death Penality, but, I mean, c'mon!), for being a pompous jerks.

4- Superman: For all the comments above.

5- Black Panther: For having a cure for cancer, and not sharing it.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
1- Tony Stark: For being part of the Illuminati and choosing to send Hulk in space, unlike Namor and Charles Xavier, for hiding an infinity gem, for cloning Thor, for being a prime ******* during Civil War. He's not only a dick, he's an *******, and all the ass kicking he received in the past few years are completly legit. (I'm thinking of the ones given by Thor and by Hulk)

2- Reed Richards: All the things Stark did, Richards did too. Plus, he constructed the prison in the negative zone, during Civil War, and is a terrible husband.

3- Bruce Wayne: For having a plan on "How to murder my hommies if I have to", for being too soft on the Joker (I'm not for the Death Penality, but, I mean, c'mon!), for being a pompous jerks.

4- Superman: For all the comments above.

5- Black Panther: For having a cure for cancer, and not sharing it.

Really, i mean that is ****ing gold.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
1- Tony Stark: For being part of the Illuminati and choosing to send Hulk in space, unlike Namor and Charles Xavier, for hiding an infinity gem, for cloning Thor, for being a prime ******* during Civil War. He's not only a dick, he's an *******, and all the ass kicking he received in the past few years are completly legit. (I'm thinking of the ones given by Thor and by Hulk)

2- Reed Richards: All the things Stark did, Richards did too. Plus, he constructed the prison in the negative zone, during Civil War, and is a terrible husband.

3- Bruce Wayne: For having a plan on "How to murder my hommies if I have to", for being too soft on the Joker (I'm not for the Death Penality, but, I mean, c'mon!), for being a pompous jerks.

4- Superman: For all the comments above.

5- Black Panther: For having a cure for cancer, and not sharing it.
I'd argue (if we're doing Moral Algebra) that the BP Cancer thing is far worse than the Batman Joker debacle. Mostly because the opportunity cost of lives that could be saved by killing the Joker is incredibly lower than the amount of lives BP could save by not being an arrogant, jingoistic dick and withholding his cancer cure.

BP has a cure for cancer and doesnt share it? **** him up his ass. I already ahted the character before, but this is ludicrous.

Originally posted by 753
BP has a cure for cancer and doesnt share it? **** him up his ass. I already ahted the character before, but this is ludicrous.
The kicker is that he was on the team of scientists who tried and failed to cure Captain Marvel's cancer.

It's like apparently even good friends and allies don't get the cure because they're not Wakandans.

Yeah. BP is a jingoistic prick. I forgot about Sinestro as well.

Black Adam
Sinestro
Doom
Black Panther
Namor
Gladiator


Oh, and I can't forget this *******:

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/th_1298689142096.jpg http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nova%20energy%20absorption/th_1298689351661.jpg

Anyone who does "the hands on hips" thing is automatically elevated to grade A+ Dick status.

As someone pointed out I'm not sure we should include villains like Sinestro in the running.

Villains are for the most part dicks by definition.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
As someone pointed out I'm not sure we should include villains like Sinestro in the running.

Villains are for the most part dicks by definition. Nick Fury for sure. He anticipated all the events of the Siege and packed the Helicarrier with gamma bombs so when it crashed into void it would hurt. He's always been a "just as planned" kind of guy and he doesn't care who he screws over as long as it serves the interests of the American Way/whatever he believes in at the moment.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Nick Fury for sure. He anticipated all the events of the Siege and packed the Helicarrier with gamma bombs so when it crashed into void it would hurt. He's always been a "just as planned" kind of guy and he doesn't care who he screws over as long as it serves the interests of the American Way/whatever he believes in at the moment. Sounds like a great American.

Originally posted by Mindset
Sounds like a great American. generally how I treat the world

Originally posted by Omega Vision
As someone pointed out I'm not sure we should include villains like Sinestro in the running.

Villains are for the most part dicks by definition.

Sinestro did shows he didn't give a shit about his daughter, after she was kidnapped by the Weaponer.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
As someone pointed out I'm not sure we should include villains like Sinestro in the running.

Villains are for the most part dicks by definition. True, but imo he's not a traditional villain per se. Dude just is ruthless in achieving his goals and often comes into conflict with his contemporaries. If that makes any sense lol.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Can you cite some actual instances of this rather than just making blanket statements?

During the Identity crisis the league had to do what was necessary with Dr. Light behind the back of Superman and Batman because they knew the they wouldn't "approve". How many lives could have been saved if he had just done what is necessary with Lex in the very beginning?




And Tony Stark and Reed Richards racked up more dick points in Civil War alone than Superman has in his entire Post Crisis career.
The Civil War definitely scored major dick points for both Stark and Richards.

Originally posted by SquallX
Sinestro did shows he didn't give a shit about his daughter, after she was kidnapped by the Weaponer. That was hilarious lol. But he came anyway, just under his own premise i.e. I came because you dared to take something from me.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's more that he did it in a non-Batman way.

Bruce lashing out is fine. But Bruce trying to punch Superman when he probably knows damn well its a futile gesture that can only end with him either tiring himself out punching empty air or breaking his hand punching something harder than steel is OOC to me.

Batman should be a lot more collected and rational than that even when he's pissed.

Besides, Batwords have on occasion proved stronger than Batpunches anyway. Well, he could have given him a Batkick, but he doesn't kill.

Originally posted by dmills
True, but imo he's not a traditional villain per se. Dude just is ruthless in achieving his goals and often comes into conflict with his contemporaries. If that makes any sense lol.
A little bit.

Though you just described Hitler after a fashion.

Originally posted by dmills
That was hilarious lol. But he came anyway, just under his own premise i.e. I came because you dared to take something from me.

Sinestro has always been an *******, but since Blackest Night, Brightest Day began, his aura of badassry has jump through the roof.

If i didn't know better, i think he might have drunk for the cup of CHUCK NORRIS.

Originally posted by SquallX
Sinestro has always been an *******, but since Blackest Night, Brightest Day began, his aura of badassry has jump through the roof.

If i didn't know better, i think he might have drunk for the cup of CHUCK NORRIS.

If Sinestro is late, time better slow the phuck down.

When you open a can of whoop-ass, Sinestro jumps out.

Sinestro doesn't wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.

Originally posted by SquallX
Sinestro has always been an *******, but since Blackest Night, Brightest Day began, his aura of badassry has jump through the roof.

If i didn't know better, i think he might have drunk for the cup of CHUCK NORRIS.

He's still no Lobo.

Cool little dirt 'stache though.

Speaking of which, I don't remember has Lobo been mentioned in this thread?

Originally posted by dmills
If Sinestro is late, time better slow the phuck down.

When you open a can of whoop-ass, Sinestro jumps out.


Sinestro doesn't wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute, I just recognize something. Is it a joke that Banner and Superman is on that list? What instances were Superman or Banner being a dick?

You have GOT to be playing.
how is banner not been a dick?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
how is banner not been a dick? Word. Banner is a complete douche bag.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Superman's relationship with Lois is head and shoulders better than 90% of superhero marriages IMO. cause it's only a front for his gay lifestyle, him and bruce however...

it ain't superman and batman, just superman/batman. we all know what's up

Originally posted by dmills
Word. Banner is a complete douche bag. when someone could stop juggs with an ipod app.... thats being a dick.

This thread title excited me, then I read it carefully, how could you get me wet like that... hmm.

Originally posted by Ms_Molly_Hayes
This thread title excited me, then I read it carefully, how could you get me wet like that... hmm. like this

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'd argue (if we're doing Moral Algebra) that the BP Cancer thing is far worse than the Batman Joker debacle. Mostly because the opportunity cost of lives that could be saved by killing the Joker is incredibly lower than the amount of lives BP could save by not being an arrogant, jingoistic dick and withholding his cancer cure.

Emperor Joker and The Last Laugh?


Originally posted by Bouboumaster
1- Tony Stark: For being part of the Illuminati and choosing to send Hulk in space, unlike Namor and Charles Xavier, for hiding an infinity gem, for cloning Thor, for being a prime ******* during Civil War. He's not only a dick, he's an *******, and all the ass kicking he received in the past few years are completly legit. (I'm thinking of the ones given by Thor and by Hulk)

2- Reed Richards: All the things Stark did, Richards did too. Plus, he constructed the prison in the negative zone, during Civil War, and is a terrible husband.

3- Bruce Wayne: For having a plan on "How to murder my hommies if I have to", for being too soft on the Joker (I'm not for the Death Penality, but, I mean, c'mon!), for being a pompous jerks.

4- Superman: For all the comments above.

5- Black Panther: For having a cure for cancer, and not sharing it.


I'm not sure if Tony is a dick hes kinda like Batman has to make hard choices.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Personally if I lived in a world where people like Superman and Martian Manhunter existed--people who if they went bad could **** the world apart without breaking a sweat--I'd be thankful for a person like Batman devising contingency plans.

In a perfect world Batman wouldn't need to go behind his friends' backs like that, but even at its most idyllic DC still isn't a perfect world.


Yeah that was a rather dumb moment in an otherwise great story.

Still doesn't top Reed Richards exiling dissidents to the Negative Zone during Civil War

Don't know about this negative zone thingy.

Originally posted by Deadline
Emperor Joker and The Last Laugh?





I'm not sure if Tony is a dick hes kinda like Batman has to make hard choices.



Don't know about this negative zone thingy.
Emperor Joker doesn't really count.

And I'm not sure how many people actually died in Last Laugh.

But discounting Emperor Joker I'm pretty sure the total death count for Joker's direct victims has been around 3000. Sure its a huge headcount for a serial killer, a ludicrous amount, but it's nowhere near the amount who die every year from cancer.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Emperor Joker doesn't really count.

And I'm not sure how many people actually died in Last Laugh. it's nowhere close to annual global cancer deaths.

Originally posted by 753
it's nowhere close to annual global cancer deaths.
And its worth noting that Batman DOES have an ethical/moral reason for not killing Joker (which many people understandably disagree with) whereas Panther is just withholding the cure because he's an arrogant, jingoistic prick.

yeah, he's an *******. I mean, sure reed richards is useless, but this cancer thing is just absurd. beyond it, wakanda could pull the rest of africa out of misery tomorrow and unlike the rest of the world, it is ruled by a supposed heroe, not the same old oligarchs

Originally posted by 753
yeah, he's an *******. I mean, sure reed richards is useless, but this cancer thing is just absurd. beyond it, wakanda could pull the rest of africa out of misery tomorrow and unlike the rest of the world, it is ruled by a supposed heroe, not the same old oligarchs
I'm sure BP doesn't see the rest of Africa as worthy of Wakandan attention.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Emperor Joker doesn't really count.

Why not?


Originally posted by Omega Vision

And I'm not sure how many people actually died in Last Laugh.

But discounting Emperor Joker I'm pretty sure the total death count for Joker's direct victims has been around 3000. Sure its a huge headcount for a serial killer, a ludicrous amount, but it's nowhere near the amount who die every year from cancer.

The Joker could potentially destroy earth and possibly the universe. Cancer can't.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And its worth noting that Batman DOES have an ethical/moral reason for not killing Joker (which many people understandably disagree with)

I think BP does as well see below.

Originally posted by 753
yeah, he's an *******. I mean, sure reed richards is useless, but this cancer thing is just absurd. beyond it, wakanda could pull the rest of africa out of misery tomorrow and unlike the rest of the world, it is ruled by a supposed heroe, not the same old oligarchs

I think the logic was your not supposed to interefere with other peoples affairs. The Watchers did something like that and they ended up decimating an alien race or races indirectly.

I think thats the intention behind it not selfishness. I think that sux though.

Originally posted by Deadline
Why not?

Well for one thing everything Joker did was pretty much undone by Mxy at the end of the story. Not to mention it couldn't have happened without fantastical circumstances.



No he can't, not unless Mxy or some other ultra powerful being acts stupid again and gives Joker powers.

Besides that's a big hypothetical.




You'd have a point, except I don't see how giving out a cancer cure can have disastrous consequences. Wakanda isn't under some Cosmic Prime Directive, there's a difference between interfering and helping, it's not always a well defined one, but it is there.

And besides there's the fact that Black Panther was BOASTING about not sharing his cancer cure. That goes beyond mere selfishness into the territory of outright assholery.

ov, you're seriously suggesting BP is more of a dick than joker?

Originally posted by Starscream M
ov, you're seriously suggesting BP is more of a dick than joker?
Read the conversation next time before you post.

I'm arguing BP is more of a dick than Batman.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Read the conversation next time before you post.

I'm arguing BP is more of a dick than Batman. sorry. I agree with that assessment.

Originally posted by Deadline
The Joker could potentially destroy earth and possibly the universe. Cancer can't.
There's a clear difference between not killing a villain and outright withholding a cure for a deadly disease.

batman not killing joker doesn't make him so much a dick as kinda just stubbornly stupid in a sense

Originally posted by Deadline
I think the logic was your not supposed to interefere with other peoples affairs. The Watchers did something like that and they ended up decimating an alien race or races indirectly.

I think thats the intention behind it not selfishness. I think that sux though. how is curing cancer interfering with another people's right to self-determiantion? how is it gonna destabilize the world? all he'd need to do is transfer the knowledge and technology to other governments and NGOs.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ov, you're seriously suggesting BP is more of a dick than joker? well, at least the joker isn't a complete hypocrite. BP has some ass raping humbling coming to him.

Originally posted by 753
how is curing cancer interfering with another people's right to self-determiantion? how is it gonna destabilize the world? all he'd need to do is transfer the knowledge and technology to other governments and NGOs. Nah. Black Panther knows that helping people inevitably leads to death and destruction of races.

All superheroes are dicks. This thread has no answer.

Originally posted by Existere

All superheroes are dicks. This thread has no answer. yup

Originally posted by psycho gundam
cause it's only a front for his gay lifestyle, him and bruce however...

it ain't superman and batman, just superman/batman. we all know what's up

Not amused.

I don't think the joker is a dick because generally to be a dick means that one has to know what their doing is making them look like a douchebag an ******* is more like the joker as he really comprehend what he's doing as bad.

Professor X

Originally posted by Existere

All superheroes are dicks. This thread has no answer.

The question is: Who's the biggest dick.

And I continue to think that Tony Stark takes the cake, with Reed Richards being a close second.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The question is: Who's the biggest dick.

And I continue to think that Tony Stark takes the cake, with Reed Richards being a close second.
I telling you it proff x.

let just go over a few of his dick moves.

1: he tried to recruit sabre-tooth a known mass murder.

2: after failing to do number 1, he went for the next best option wolverine.

3: wolverine he had one the team ot use as a weapon

4: he wanted to do the dirty deed with his original student

5: he sent a bunch of kids to slaughter, then errased all evidence of it.

ect. I could go on and on.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I telling you it proff x.

let just go over a few of his dick moves.

1: he tried to recruit sabre-tooth a known mass murder.

2: after failing to do number 1, he went for the next best option wolverine.

3: wolverine he had one the team ot use as a weapon

4: he wanted to do the dirty deed with his original student

5: he sent a bunch of kids to slaughter, then errased all evidence of it.

ect. I could go on and on. and all of it for a greater good. none of it is dickish actually.

Originally posted by Starscream M
and all of it for a greater good. none of it is dickish actually.
Him wanting to have sex with his student jean was for the greater good how?

him sending student to the slaughter was for the greater good how?


How was asking sabre-tooth to be on hims team for the greater good?

How is mind raping everyone he ever known for personal gain for the greater good?

How is mind raping scot into believing he never had a brother for the greater good?

ect.


And your gunna sit there and tell me that this all was not dickish? Oh masterbruce, tsk tsk.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Him wanting to have sex with his student jean was for the greater god how?

When was that.

Originally posted by SquallX
When was that.
in uncanny x-men during the 70s I believe. There a scan of it some were around here.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Him wanting to have sex with his student jean was for the greater good how?

him sending student to the slaughter was for the greater good how?


How was asking sabre-tooth to be on hims team for the greater god?

How is mind raping everyone he ever known for personal gain for the greater good?

How is mind raping scot into believing he never had a brother for the greater god?

ect. he mind rapes to protect the identity of xmen and what they do...as well as to protect the person being mindraped (info is dangerous)

nothing wrong with natural attraction to a beautiful woman. if thats being dickish, then most men are.

he needed someone to do dirty work, so sabretooth might fit the profile. not everyone can save the day by being a goody two shoes.

I dont know about the scott mind rape, but I would assume Prof X thought it would help scott.

lulz at you finding the martin luther king of mutantkind the most dickish character you can think of. you have a really warped sense of being a dick.

Don't forget him erasing Amelia's memories so she would stay with him.

Originally posted by Starscream M
he mind rapes to protect the identity of xmen and what they do...as well as to protect the person being mindraped (info is dangerous)


as usual you speak before knowing anything about what is being stated. I not talking normal people, I talking his x-men. He mind raped them repeatedly, with out there knolwedge.


Originally posted by Starscream M
wrong with natural attraction to a beautiful woman. if thats being dickish, then most men are.


when you known them since they were but a child and help to form them into the person they are. It like her dad wanting to have sex with her.........your honestly gunna sit there and tell me that ok?



Originally posted by Starscream M
needed someone to do dirty work, so sabretooth might fit the profile. not everyone can save the day by being a goody two shoes.


employing a mass murder of children, woman and MUTANTs, is a dickish move, dont even know how you could try and pretend other wise.



Originally posted by Starscream M
I dont know about the scott mind rape, but I would assume Prof X thought it would help scott.
No, he wanted to hide the fact he got his brother killed from him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't forget him erasing Amelia's memories so she would stay with him.
or the fact he the reason wolverine mind was destroyed.

Or how he knew Danger was alive and proceeded to not tell anybody and enslave the machine.

or that he lied to rogue about being able to help her control her powers

or that he didnt think to tell anyone he was alive after exodus fixed his brain

or the fact that he took a select handful of mutants to live in superawesome secret heroe mansion while the morlocks were left in the sewers. he wouldnt even let the world know he was a mutant until cassandra nova did it.

Damn, i knew Xavier was a little iffy sometimes, but never on the level of the shits there claiming he did.

Hiring Saber tooth was a shitty thing to do, but understandable, but wanting to sleep with a kid you once raised, and that considers you as both her mentor, and father figure is beyond being a dick.

Originally posted by SquallX
Damn, i knew Xavier was a little iffy sometimes, but never on the level of the shits there claiming he did.

Hiring Saber tooth was a shitty thing to do, but understandable, but wanting to sleep with a kid you once raised, and that considers you as both her mentor, and father figure is beyond being a dick.

Xavier ISN'T a dick - he is a bad, bad man.

well, he is morally ambiguous and flawed, but he has done a lot of good too

Ozy?

Originally posted by 753
well, he is morally ambiguous and flawed, but he has done a lot of good too
This is true.

However he is pretty bad man at the same time. He be my vote for biggest dick out of any hero.

I remember when first the reconnt came out that made him an ass hole, but then I realized this has been in the making a long time. he been doing some iffy shit for years in comics and it was kinda cool to watch it all fall into place to reveal he was kinda an evil mastermind for the force of good.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Ozy?
If we're doing Watchmen, there's no bigger dick than the Comedian.

Come to think of it...discounting villains the Comedian may well be a contender for biggest dick in comics.

And while we're on Alan Moore characters: John Constantine. At his core he's heroic, but surrounding that heroic core is a hard candy shell of douchebaggery.

you mean the comedian wasnt a villain?

I cant really use the term dick to describe ozzie his attitude was actually pretty humble all things considered. the way he killed his vietnamese assistants in that garden was grade A douchebaggery though, specially considering he would allow sally and owl to live knowing the truth.

Originally posted by 753
you mean the comedian wasnt a villain?

I cant really use the term dick to describe ozzie his attitude was actually pretty humble all things considered. the way he killed his vietnamese assistants in that garden was grade A douchebaggery though, specially considering he would allow sally and owl to live knowing the truth.
I suppose you may be right about that, he was portrayed rather villainously.

He's my favorite nihilist character.

yeah, he was pretty good character. rorschack, him and manhatan are among the best of all time.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well for one thing everything Joker did was pretty much undone by Mxy at the end of the story.

Thats not a good argument a terrorist steals a nuke but you manage to stop him and hes still at large. Just because you stopped him doesn't mean hes not a threat

Originally posted by Omega Vision

Not to mention it couldn't have happened without fantastical circumstances.


Apparently Joker stole the worlogog.....

Originally posted by Omega Vision

No he can't, not unless Mxy or some other ultra powerful being acts stupid again and gives Joker powers.

Besides that's a big hypothetical.

Maybe if you're refering to the whole universe but not the whole planet.

Originally posted by Omega Vision



You'd have a point, except I don't see how giving out a cancer cure can have disastrous consequences. Wakanda isn't under some Cosmic Prime Directive, there's a difference between interfering and helping, it's not always a well defined one, but it is there.

Thats what The Watchers thought the races they gave their tech to used their tech to kill each other. In fact if BP did give out the cure to cancer somebody would try to use it as a biological weapon.

In fact the more tech he would give out to the world the more they would abuse it. Hmm in fact when you think of it it's not as bad as it seems.

Originally posted by Omega Vision

And besides there's the fact that Black Panther was BOASTING about not sharing his cancer cure. That goes beyond mere selfishness into the territory of outright assholery.

Even if he did make that statement thats Hudlin thats not how BP consistently behaves. Hudlin made Cap act like a dick as well so should we put Cap on the list?


Originally posted by 753
how is curing cancer interfering with another people's right to self-determiantion? how is it gonna destabilize the world? all he'd need to do is transfer the knowledge and technology to other governments and NGOs.

See what I said above. The Watchers thought that as well look what happened to them, thats why they don't interefere.

If we're counting villains, Darkseid of course deserves to be in the discussion.

But personally, I'd add in Max Lord. Not only does he kill Ted Grant, he destroys Wondy's rep, and to top it all, HE CAME BACK TO LIVE AGAIN. And somehow manages to mindwipe everyone except JLI members into forgetting him.

Originally posted by Deadline
Thats not a good argument a terrorist steals a nuke but you manage to stop him and hes still at large. Just because you stopped him doesn't mean hes not a threat



Apparently Joker stole the worlogog.....



Maybe if you're refering to the whole universe but not the whole planet.



Thats what The Watchers thought the races they gave their tech to used their tech to kill each other. In fact if BP did give out the cure to cancer somebody would try to use it as a biological weapon.

In fact the more tech he would give out to the world the more they would abuse it. Hmm in fact when you think of it it's not as bad as it seems.



Even if he did make that statement thats Hudlin thats not how BP consistently behaves. Hudlin made Cap act like a dick as well so should we put Cap on the list?




See what I said above. The Watchers thought that as well look what happened to them, thats why they don't interefere.
How is that at all the same? Joker getting the Worgolog or getting Mxy's power is A LOT less repeatable than a terrorist getting another ex-Soviet warhead or whatever.

Besides, as it stands the Joker's real (read, not undone as with EJ) deathcount is INCREDIBLY lower than the amount of people BP could save by not being a dick.

Yeah, I'm sure Panther was thinking about people turning a cancer cure into a WMD when he boasted about not sharing it.

As I recall, his reason for not sharing it (or any of Wakanda's advanced tech, rare resources, and such) was that he believed that those foreigners who came asking for them didn't show the "proper respect", which is strange considering as I recall they were very respectful (to the point of kissing BP's ass) and offered him blank checks. He refused them and laughed.

Except Hudlin has retconned a lot of BP's history and basically turned BP into his pet char. Hudlin ruins a lot of characters' personalities, but Black Panther he's actually made a new standard personality for.