Grey Gargoyle vs. Juggernaut

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Wonder Man
What the f**k? Can Juggernaut be stopped? Who wins?

Gadabout
Is Juggy's forcefield active? If not then I could see GG winning this or at least drawing a tie depending on GG damage soak.

leonidas
i don't think juggs--even without the field--could be turned to stone. at least in the past. who knows what the current incarnation would do here.

DarkSaint85
Is/was Gargoyle actually that powerful?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is/was Gargoyle actually that powerful?

No, but his stone touch is pretty much cheating.

Juggy should be able to no-sell it, though. Most of the time. Seeing how Fixit resisted it fine.

leonidas
yeah i agree. he might start to change--maybe even change--but the change would stop or he'd walk and fight while turned to stone anyway. which would be pretty cool now i think about it...

lawest9
He can't match Juggs muscles, his only chance is to negate Cain's forcefield.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by lawest9
He can't match Juggs muscles, his only chance is to negate Cain's forcefield.

Current characters unless stated otherwise by the thread starter.

And since it's Wonder Man's thread, we'll never know for sure.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah i agree. he might start to change--maybe even change--but the change would stop or he'd walk and fight while turned to stone anyway. which would be pretty cool now i think about it...

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The problem is that... it's entirely possible for Cain to be weaker than Fixit.

He has fluctuated a lot over the years - and even when he was amped (post-Amazing X-Men) or "double-amped" (in Aaron's Thor), he jobbed like crazy and seemed weaker, not stronger.

Sigh. If Gargoyle assraped him, I wouldn't be surprised sad

DarkSaint85
Considering Susan Storm blocked Gargoyle, Juggy should be able to tank it easily.

StiltmanFTW
laughing out loud

Susan would destroy TOAA and Presence, Batman and Superman, Wolverine and Spider-Man, Bedlam Spirits and Mortis Gods... all at the same time.

leonidas
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