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The fate of there own universe depends on there victory. The loser dies along with his universe. Who wins?

Thor

Slight, large majority?

Thor's hammer absorbs energy, so he's fairly well off against GLs.

A top-shelf GL may be able to get a win, oh... maybe 2 times in 10.

hal

Originally posted by Q99
Thor's hammer absorbs energy, so he's fairly well off against GLs.

A top-shelf GL may be able to get a win, oh... maybe 2 times in 10.

Hal has shown to do the same.

But what energy would Hal be absorbing from Thor?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Hal has shown to do the same.

Yea, but absorbing energy doesn't help as much against Thor, since the hammer's the big offense. So Mjolnir absorbing GL blasts is a lot more helpful than a ring's capacity to absorb energy with the right construct.

Any energy Thor throws at Hal, Hal can absorb. He's done well against mages, so it won't be a problem. Blunt force, Hal has his shields and depending on what era, Hal will do quite well.

IIRC, Thor had problems with dr. spectrum, who is somewhat like a GL.

Hal Jordan.

I wonder who's gonna have the better movie?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Any energy Thor throws at Hal, Hal can absorb. He's done well against mages, so it won't be a problem. Blunt force, Hal has his shields and depending on what era, Hal will do quite well.

IIRC, Thor had problems with dr. spectrum, who is somewhat like a GL. Thor would be using melee for the most part. Hal's absorbing abilities would not be nearly useful enough in this fight.

It go either way. 5.5/10 for Thor

Originally posted by Mindset
Thor would be using melee for the most part. Hal's absorbing abilities would not be nearly useful enough in this fight.

Yeah, Thor would be doing mostly that, but Hal can simply block any attacks or remain intangible, if need be. Hal back in the day was very versatile, even trapping enemies inside his ring.

And now he can duplicate his ring and get more power

What's back in the day, pre crisis?

Hal could always just amp his strength.

not saying he'd win, though...

Originally posted by xJLxKing
And now he can duplicate his ring and get more power

What issue is that? I'm not too impressed with Geoff's Hal.

bn 6

Originally posted by Mindset
What's back in the day, pre crisis?

Some pre-crisis and some post crisis.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
bn 6

ARRGH! Did that just come out?

No. Just? No? had? yes

A tough one. Thor is not easily taken down, even by very powerful beings. Hal has the willpower of a god, and the ability to make that will manifest. Thor has good defenses. So does Hal. Thor can dish out the whoopass. So can Hal.

Hal has the edge in versatility.

Thor is one of the toughest to take down, and still has some versatility to compliment that.

Fate of the universe at stake...

I'll tentatively go with Thor, 5.5/10, but it really is close; his edge is marginal in this case.

Uhm...
Thor teleports Hal to some star that has radiation that shorts out Hal's reing?

Originally posted by Survivor19
Uhm...
Thor teleports Hal to some star that has radiation that shorts out Hal's reing?

Not likely. Hal could avoid/resist such an attempt, just as Thor could resist a similar attempt to be displaced by Hal.

Like I said: a tough call, given the circumstances...

hal, because he isn't a stinky norweigen.lol


and he gets haircuts......like a real man.

Doesn't duplicating the ring half the charge?

Making new rings with rings is an old trick, it's just never been a combat trick. Having multiple rings doesn't even necessarily make you stronger, it just makes it so you have a larger reserve.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Hal could always just amp his strength.

not saying he'd win, though... So could Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So could Thor.

how high?

Originally posted by -Pr-
how high? Ten times.

Originally posted by -Pr-
how high?
Not as high as Quan thinks most likely.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ten times.
Warrior Madness you mean? Doesn't that also count as an intelligence debuff? All in all Thor is better off fighting a GL without WM.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Warrior Madness you mean? Doesn't that also count as an intelligence debuff? All in all Thor is better off fighting a GL without WM. I think his experience and skills will do him well and good by doing what comes natural with his hammer. If Thor goes warrior madness Hal dies very quickly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ten times.

how?

Originally posted by -Pr-
how? Warrior madness. His strength increases ten fold when he enters warrior madness/berserker mode.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Warrior madness. His strength increases ten fold when he enters warrior madness/berserker mode.

so why doesn't he do it more often then?

Originally posted by -Pr-
so why doesn't he do it more often then? Because he loses control and values lives. By definition warrior madness isn't giving your enemy quarter. It's something he was punished for by Odin when he entered this state against Warlock.

and him.

Originally posted by Spire
and him. Of course he was ashamed of his actions. He went into his Hulk battle though knowing full well he could get lost in combat and enter this mode which ended up happening.

What?

Originally posted by Spire
What? Figures.

Was hoping you would clarify this:

Originally posted by quanchi112
Of course he was ashamed of his actions.

Originally posted by Spire
Was hoping you would clarify this: What did I tell pr about his actions?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he loses control and values lives. By definition warrior madness isn't giving your enemy quarter. It's something he was punished for by Odin when he entered this state against Warlock.

so why would he do it against hal?

Originally posted by -Pr-
so why would he do it against hal? If he loses himself in combat it's always a possibility.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If he loses himself in combat it's always a possibility.

so hal is more likely to amp his strength than thor is?

Originally posted by -Pr-
so hal is more likely to amp his strength than thor is? I don't see either doing so for a majority of the times. I don't see Hal amping himself to a level Thor couldn't beat straight up anyways.

WM can also work against him.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_BadJudgement.jpg

Originally posted by Spire
WM can also work against him.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_BadJudgement.jpg Because of balder's statement? When has Thor been defeated in wm mode? What ended up happening to Warlock in that arc? Did he win or get stomped?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because of balder's statement? When has Thor been defeated in wm mode? What ended up happening to Warlock in that arc? Did he win or get stomped?

Your totally not trying to downplay anything.

Originally posted by Spire
Your totally not trying to downplay anything. That was Balder's statement which proves what exactly? Thor absolutely raped him. We have never seen Thor in warrior madness lose like Balder claimed MIGHT happen which didn't happen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was Balder's statement which proves what exactly?

Read the bubble.

Originally posted by Spire
Read the bubble. I read it multiple times.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I read it multiple times.

Did you understand it?

Originally posted by Spire
Did you understand it? What's your point? Tell me exactly why you put up the scan?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What's your point? Tell me exactly why you put up the scan?

It's a pretty simple how things work. You should have the hang of it by now. Here is the question again:

Originally posted by Spire
Did you understand it?

Originally posted by Spire
It's a pretty simple how things work. You should have the hang of it by now. Here is the question again: It's a scan in which I replied. What is it that I am not understanding or getting? Putting up a scan and then saying I was referring to something else when you didn't even say why you put the scan up in the first place is rather a problem on your end. It's the internet explain yourself. It's poor debating.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's a scan in which I replied. What is it that I am not understanding or getting? Putting up a scan and then saying I was referring to something else when you didn't even say why you put the scan up in the first place is rather a problem on your end. It's the internet explain yourself. It's poor debating.

More dodging. facepalm

Again:

Originally posted by Spire
Did you understand it?

Originally posted by Spire
More dodging. facepalm

Again: I understand the scan, yes. What was your point?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I understand the scan, yes. What was your point?

The point is, if you read the scan and understand it, there really isn't anything to talk about considering how straight forward it is.

Thor only has to direct his hammer at Hal and suck in that energy. Seeing as Hal can't even stop the manhunters from doing it, he'd be hard pressed to stop Mjolnir
Originally posted by Spire
WM can also work against him.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_BadJudgement.jpg
How is that a scan of bad judgement, or how does it work against him in any way?

Originally posted by Spire
The point is, if you read the scan and understand it, there really isn't anything to talk about considering how straight forward it is. Always a straight forward answer. You really aren't a very good debater and won't even man up and answer the question. Ten times his strength though is pretty unfair for those he fights in this state.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Thor only has to direct his hammer at Hal and suck in that energy. Seeing as Hal can't even stop the manhunters from doing it, he'd be hard pressed to stop Mjolnir

How is that a scan of bad judgement, or how does it work against him in any way?

Probably, being in warrior 'madness'. Balder is clearly saying such.

Thor might kill when not needed or might be defeated by a weaker foe.

Hal for majority..

Originally posted by Spire
Probably, being in warrior 'madness'. Balder is clearly saying such.

Thor might kill when not needed or might be defeated by a weaker foe. But he wasn't defeated by a weaker foe. Not once. You posting someone else's opinion when we saw the direct opposite is ridiculous. Why even post it.

Originally posted by Spire
Probably, being in warrior 'madness'. Balder is clearly saying such.

Thor might kill when not needed or might be defeated by a weaker foe.
Yeah, but we've never seen this stuff go down. From what we've seen, Thor's gotten a hella stronger in combat. Though he might unnecessarily kill, that's something which won't matter in a forum fight. Thor would never go Warrior Madness against hal though.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yeah, but we've never seen this stuff go down. From what we've seen, Thor's gotten a hella stronger in combat. Though he might unnecessarily kill, that's something which won't matter in a forum fight. Thor would never go Warrior Madness against hal though.

I know, but it doesn't mean we just discard it. The possibility is there.

Is that not the whole point of WM and why Asgardians shouldn't go into it...?

Originally posted by Spire
I know, but it doesn't mean we just discard it. The possibility is there.

Is that not the whole point of WM and why Asgardians shouldn't go into it...? Because it goes against everything they stand for maybe. They don't go around raping and murdering their opponents when beaten do they?

Originally posted by Spire
I know, but it doesn't mean we just discard it. The possibility is there.

Is that not the whole point of WM and why Asgardians shouldn't go into it...?
It's because it's pretty disgraceful to lose control or whether or not you kill someone or somesuch. Makes no sense seeing as Odin has killed people for -nothing- but them's the breaks. One comment by Balder about how guys in WM might get defeated by weaker opponents does not suddenly mean that we should start assuming Thor will lose when he loses control, seeing as how he's done far better in WM

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
It's because it's pretty disgraceful to lose control or whether or not you kill someone or somesuch. Makes no sense seeing as Odin has killed people for -nothing- but them's the breaks. One comment by Balder about how guys in WM might get defeated by weaker opponents does not suddenly mean that we should start assuming Thor will lose when he loses control, seeing as how he's done far better in WM

OK, but the focus really isn't 'defeated by weaker foe', its 'judgement' and 'madness'.

Originally posted by Spire
OK, but the focus really isn't 'defeated by weaker foe', its 'judgement' and 'madness'. That's Balder's opinion and since we saw the latter true it's pretty cut and dry. On panel opinions are tossed aside when we see on panel actions.

That's like saying the colts can lose with their unbridled confidence to see them go on to win the sbowl and act like that opinion is anything other than an opinion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't see either doing so for a majority of the times. I don't see Hal amping himself to a level Thor couldn't beat straight up anyways.

he's amped himself to superman level before. add that to his ring slinging and thor would be in for a hell of a fight.

Originally posted by -Pr-
he's amped himself to superman level before. add that to his ring slinging and thor would be in for a hell of a fight. Thor's taken on beings stronger than and more durable than Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor's taken on beings stronger than and more durable than Superman.

he's also lost to beings less strong and less durable than superman. its the nature of comics.

Originally posted by -Pr-
he's also lost to beings less strong and less durable than superman. its the nature of comics. On kmc he is at his best. If Thor is going balls to the wall Hal is in trouble. If he is fighting typical Thor vs. hero it's much closer. When we see Thor go all out with the power at his disposal he's too powerful for most top tiers to handle.

I still give the nod to Thor though. He trashed Gladiator the moment he decided not to hold back.

Originally posted by quanchi112
On kmc he is at his best. If Thor is going balls to the wall Hal is in trouble. If he is fighting typical Thor vs. hero it's much closer. When we see Thor go all out with the power at his disposal he's too powerful for most top tiers to handle.

I still give the nod to Thor though. He trashed Gladiator the moment he decided not to hold back.

so is hal, though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
so is hal, though. Hal might be a pain in the ass but Thor is on a whole other level power wise. You don't want to piss off the thunder god.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's Balder's opinion and since we saw the latter true it's pretty cut and dry. On panel opinions are tossed aside when we see on panel actions.

That's like saying the colts can lose with their unbridled confidence to see them go on to win the sbowl and act like that opinion is anything other than an opinion.

You can toss aside whatever you want. Judgment problems come with WM.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_Thor166-14.jpg http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_Thor166-16.jpg

Originally posted by Spire
You can toss aside whatever you want. Judgment problems come with WM.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_Thor166-14.jpg http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_Thor166-16.jpg Yes, he doesn't show mercy and lacks compassion. It doesn't make him any weaker it makes him more dangerous as a Thor not holding back is an absolute monster.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he doesn't show mercy and lacks compassion. It doesn't make him any weaker it makes him more dangerous as a Thor not holding back is an absolute monster.

I noticed how you dodged the whole 'judgment' point.

Thor 5.8/10

Originally posted by Spire
You can toss aside whatever you want. Judgment problems come with WM.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_Thor166-14.jpg http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_Thor166-16.jpg
Like I said earlier, it still only mentions how he would have killed someone he should not. Makes not a lick of difference on the board.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he's also lost to beings less strong and less durable than superman. its the nature of comics.
Has not.

And Hal has never amped himself to be as strong and durable as Superman.

Originally posted by Spire
I noticed how you dodged the whole 'judgment' point. No, I agreed his judgment is off. The problem is he is less merciful which isn't how Thor normally operates. Thor hasn't been beaten once while in this mode so Balder's statement he might lose is just a statement from Balder.

Ultimately we cant say that Warrior madness is a negative because in a forum battle it really isnt. Its like turning on blood lust, and making him 10 times stronger. In a comic it might be a negative due to the plot. But in a forum battle it will only help. Yet, i think in a forum battle it shouldnt be used unless the original poster has stated that thor is in this form.

With that said. I think Thor wins this one, Thor is to powerful, dont get me wrong. Hal is a powerful guy to, but thor is just to much in my opinion. He should win 7 or 8/10.

Yo.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
And Hal has never amped himself to be as strong and durable as Superman.

he mustve done so when he beat on Mongul.......




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

he mustve done so when he beat on Mongul.......

Tazer
I have a hard time believing Hal was anywhere near Superman's level when he was barely able to beat Mongul. It takes a bit more than Mongul with a fancy armour and hammer to suddenly reach Superman's physique. Cyborg Supes also humbled Mongul with like one arm.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I have a hard time believing Hal was anywhere near Superman's level when he was barely able to beat Mongul. It takes a bit more than Mongul with a fancy armour and hammer to suddenly reach Superman's physique. Cyborg Supes also humbled Mongul with like one arm.

Mongul is yellow. Hal's ring didn't work on anything that was yellow, and he still beat a guy who was totally yellow and on Superman's basic level.

That's insane.

Originally posted by Spire
You can toss aside whatever you want. Judgment problems come with WM.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_Thor166-14.jpg http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/th_Thor166-16.jpg Ya, the judgement call to spare a downed opponent... such a problem.

Thor 7/ or 8/10

The start of this fight is going to be relatively even and would take a very long time to finish. Both have an insane amount of versatility and firepower at their disposal thanks to their weapons. That being said, I see Hal going down for the majority thanks to one simple factor: he only has human stamina. Sooner or later, through no fault of his own, Hal's concentration and willpower will begin to falter. Once that happens, Thor will be able to get in through Hal's defenses and end the fight.

Yo.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I have a hard time believing Hal was anywhere near Superman's level when he was barely able to beat Mongul. It takes a bit more than Mongul with a fancy armour and hammer to suddenly reach Superman's physique. Cyborg Supes also humbled Mongul with like one arm.

actually, BEFORE he did that Hal pumped/amped up his body w/g.e., which is wat allowed him to go mano-a-mano w/Mongul.........and it wasnt the 1st time he'd done that either.




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
actually, BEFORE he did that Hal pumped/amped up his body w/g.e., which is wat allowed him to go mano-a-mano w/Mongul.........and it wasnt the 1st time he'd done that either.
Originally posted by Desaad
Mongul is yellow. Hal's ring didn't work on anything that was yellow, and he still beat a guy who was totally yellow and on Superman's basic level.

That's insane.

Mongul isn't on Superman's level. It's pretty simple

Originally posted by Desaad
Mongul is yellow. Hal's ring didn't work on anything that was yellow, and he still beat a guy who was totally yellow and on Superman's basic level.

That's insane.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Mongul isn't on Superman's level. It's pretty simple strength-wise and durability wise, he's pretty close.

Originally posted by Starscream M
strength-wise and durability wise, he's pretty close.
Nope. Especially not durability wise.

Yo.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Mongul isn't on Superman's level. It's pretty simple

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Nope. Especially not durability wise.

ok, so wat's the reasoning that he isnt?




Tazer

Hal's had a few decent showings against Superman level beings. But we don't highball him anymore than we lowball Thor.

Thor 7 or 8/10.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.





ok, so wat's the reasoning that he isnt?




Tazer
Without his rings Mongul is like Apocalypse without the TP.

Yo.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Without his rings Mongul is like Apocalypse without the TP.

ok, aside from not knowing Apok *had* tp Id still like to know why KB thinks Mongul isnt on Supe's level in either STR or durability........




Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer


ok, aside from not knowing Apok *had* tp Id still like to know why KB thinks Mongul was on Supe's level in either STR or durability........

he doesn't think that.

Yo.

fixed it




Tazer

Originally posted by Blanket
Ya, the judgement call to spare a downed opponent... such a problem.

Thor vs Green Lantern Jordan


who takes the win ?

Thor gets trapped in a microverse inside the ring

Thor wins.

Thor absorbs teh energiez!

thor drains the ring...easy win

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
thor drains the ring...easy win Not that easy But Thor Should win...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thor absorbs teh energiez! you say that like bishop could probably absorb the energy from the ring to that its just regular old every day energy. i mean its the most powerful energy in the universe. im sure the energy source from the main lantern that provides the rings powers has some kinda protection over that.

Hal win

no one is talking about Bishop here. unless he plans on jumping in out of nowhere.

anyways the rings have bn drained various times by various ppl.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
no one is talking about Bishop here. unless he plans on jumping in out of nowhere.

anyways the rings have bn drained various times by various ppl.
Its Chomper talking.

Been done. Merging.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Its Chomper talking. wow your smart

Originally posted by chomperx9
wow your smart
As brilliant as a million exploding suns, yes.

Thor = hammer.

Hal = nail.

Thor 7/10.

Hal, because he's cooler

^ Cooler to the touch once he's a corpse you mean...

Thor 6-7/10

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor 6-7/10

of course you would say that you thor fanboy but what i wont understand is when da f^ck are you going to put already a thor signature and stop puting on supermans since you are the oposite of a superman fan

Originally posted by fight_troop
of course you would say that you thor fanboy but what i wont understand is when da f^ck are you going to put already a thor signature and stop puting on supermans since you are the oposite of a superman fan



Thor has the physical strength to break through constructs as well as a weapon that can absorb and rechannel energy. Not to mention his powers are based in magic, something GL rings are typically shown to be less effective against. I'm not being a fanboy about it all, yet you seem to have this need to call people out and try to verbally attack them for their opinion.

And this sig I'm currently using is one of Mister Majestic, not of Superman.

Originally posted by fight_troop
of course you would say that you thor fanboy but what i wont understand is when da f^ck are you going to put already a thor signature and stop puting on supermans since you are the oposite of a superman fan lol thats actually pretty funny

Originally posted by JakeTheBank


And this sig I'm currently using is one of Mister Majestic, not of Superman. he's basically a superman clone, isn't he? and he looks exactly like superman.

Originally posted by Starscream M
he's basically a superman clone, isn't he? and he looks exactly like superman. He's similar in power set (though not the same), and he vastly differs in personality. It's entirely possible to have a sig showing that you're a fan of one of them without it being implied that you're a fan of the other (regardless of whether that's true or not).

Originally posted by Original Smurph
He's similar in power set (though not the same), and he vastly differs in personality. It's entirely possible to have a sig showing that you're a fan of one of them without it being implied that you're a fan of the other (regardless of whether that's true or not). yeah but if I rock a character's sig, I shouldn't be always arguing against that character...that would be odd

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah but if I rock a character's sig, I shouldn't be always arguing against that character...that would be odd No, it would be odd to argue for that character based solely on the fact that you had him in your sig.

That, brucey, is called fanboyism.

Originally posted by fight_troop
of course you would say that you thor fanboy but what i wont understand is when da f^ck are you going to put already a thor signature and stop puting on supermans since you are the oposite of a superman fan

you're already back? that was quick

regular thor vs hal jordan , both at best who wins and how?

Hal wins, with ease.

Thor 7-8/10.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor 7-8/10.

Thor 8/10.

Originally posted by cdtm
Hal wins, with ease.

Thor 6-7/10..

Thor 7/10.

Originally posted by cdtm
Hal wins, with ease.
hysterical

Thor 8/10

Toss up.

Thor will...
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Toss up.

... his hammer and it will come down and crush Hal's head.

Not before Hal goes intangible!

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Not before Hal goes intangible!

Cos that worked so well for Vision and others?

Nah, but he has dodged attacks through that method.

Thor

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Not before Hal goes intangible!

Nah, Hal can just Krona bust him.

From behind.

Thing thing about GL's, is that have pretty major tactical advantages between auto shields that can take attacks even Supermans durability would have trouble with, the ability to form an army of constructs at the same time, and attacks that can come at any angle, all which can travel at trans warp speeds.

Thor wins because I am just too afraid to argue against the majority.

Definetely Thor

thor

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor wins because I am just too afraid to argue against the majority.

Mindset didn't comment, so majority opinion doesn't count.

Didn't PR say we could use pre-crisis examples?

No one cares what Paul said.

Thor 7/10.

Meh, all that matters is Kyle beats Hal, Thor, and Superman.

So whatever.

thor wins 7/10 at least. Thor is built to kill green lanterns. He can take any thing hal can dish out and on top of that hes a top tier brick.