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I'll never leave u guys

Just tired

Galactus

Which Beyounder?

If it's post-Recton, Team 2

Defeats who my friend

Happy NYear

Originally posted by guy222
Defeats who my friend

Happy NYear

Happy New Year!

Had good holydays?


I say that Galactus should walk over both. IF it's PR Beounder

PR Beyounder would be a great match to Kubik.

team 1

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
team 1

umm..how?

Galactus

The big G

Originally posted by galactusischere
umm..how? i know team 2 wins, i just hate galactus

by the way guess whos is my avatar \/ \/

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
by the way guess whos is my avatar \/ \/

I too hate superman

Originally posted by galactusischere
I too hate superman


wtf has a fictional literary character ever done to earn your wrath?

Originally posted by TheKahn
wtf has a fictional literary character ever done to earn your wrath?

I don't know why but I just hate him. Its probably because of hes stupid ass feats tho.

Originally posted by TheKahn
wtf has a fictional literary character ever done to earn your wrath? they guy wears underwear over his pants

Originally posted by galactusischere
I don't know why but I just hate him. Its probably because of hes stupid ass feats tho.

Every comic character has stupid feats when you really think about it, my friend.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
they guy wears underwear over his pants

Sadly, that's a fashion statement all too common among Marvel and DC's characters.

Galactus/Kubik

WTF is Sentry doing here?

Originally posted by guy222


I'll never leave u guys

Just tired I knew it.

Team 2 wins.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
WTF is Sentry doing here?

Because of that damn DA 12 issue and fanboy speculations.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Because of that damn DA 12 issue and fanboy speculations.

What? Beating a weaker, insane Owen?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
What? Beating a weaker, insane Owen?

Yup...

good to see all

what if bob is the beyonder

kubik already defeated man from beyond

and lets say this is big g when he's weak

or how his last appearance or possibly.....

Well to be fair both are insane

but sentry is the golden guardian of good.

good always triumphs!!!!

Sentry is the golden guardian of ghey.

....

facepalm2

Team 2. /thread

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
What? Beating a weaker, insane Owen? You haven't proven that.

I wonder if Quan thinks that he's not been put on ignore by most of the posters here?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I wonder if Quan thinks that he's not been put on ignore by most of the posters here? I wonder if knowsbleed thinks I care. It's also funny when posters act like they are ignoring me, but they still respond to my posts and I know they are reading them. If you don't have the courage to face me man to man then I feel sorry for ya.

I'm going to assume that was a response like "I'm in your head" or "Quan is always right. F**K YOU!!!!"

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I'm going to assume that was a response like "I'm in your head" or "Quan is always right. F**K YOU!!!!" I said nothing of the sort. I don't act the way I do on herochat because that's not how it's done here. Herochat's an old tired site anyways that all gets pruned in the long run.

I am asking you to back up your claim. You responding almost immediately shows me one of two options


1.I am really not on ignore.

2.You still are responding to a poster you put on ignore so this means you should take the poster off ignore or don't respond at all.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I wonder if Quan thinks that he's not been put on ignore by most of the posters here? He would be wrong

Post Beyonder is more powerful than he's getting credit for here.

Post Beyonder was f'n up all reality at one time with his tampering on a Multiversal scale,
his death can cause havoc across the Multiverse
and apparently, still to this day,
post Beyonder is used as a punch line (in bios) in terms of what can bring down Eternity.

In fact, post Beyonder is credited with erasing Death (retconned to 616)
although this act still did spread across the Multiverse because it was 616's Death.

And Eternity needed help to try and attack the Beyonder
in the Beyonder's bane scenario. (all canon to post Beyonder)
And post Beyonder is also credited with nearly destroying Eternity during Secret Wars.
This fact was retconned in 1989, but then apparently retconned again in 2006.

Also ...

Thanos (in his limited mini which took place after he acquired the IG & HOTI)
stated that the Beyonder trapped withIN the Maker was "unlimited power"

... oh, post Beyonder also granted Rachel the full power of the Phoenix Force.

One last note:

When unlimited Owen (evil Molecule Man) battled post Beyonder,
he claimed that in all the infinities only he surpassed Beyonder in power.

Just a few updates for those dome pieces friends.

Mr. M, did you read the recent Dark Avengers issues with Molecule Man?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

Mr. M, did you read the recent Dark Avengers issues with Molecule Man?
I actually haven't.

But from the comments I've read, it's riddles with pis I understand,
or it had to be a stipulation that defeated Owen.

Unless Sentry has been boosted to Godlike levels,
then, who can argue.

This of course has to be confirmed across arcs/handbooks and such.

If this is pre retcon Beyonder, he beats all 3 others here together with ease. If its post, Im not sure, as Sentry is definately the weakest here, but Mr Master is putting up some interesting instances for him here.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I actually haven't.

But from the comments I've read, it's riddles with pis I understand,
or it had to be a stipulation that defeated Owen.

Unless Sentry has been boosted to Godlike levels,
then, who can argue.

This of course has to be confirmed across arcs/handbooks and such.
He's been boosted to godhood with no good explanation

Lets ask the 42 year old thread starter who Beyonder is

hmm

It's anybody's guess could be the Sentry

Originally posted by Mr Master
I actually haven't.

But from the comments I've read, it's riddles with pis I understand,
or it had to be a stipulation that defeated Owen.

Unless Sentry has been boosted to Godlike levels,
then, who can argue.

This of course has to be confirmed across arcs/handbooks and such.

Sentry didn't fight the more powerful Molecule Man persona. That's sort of the issue though. Sentry fans have gone nuts over this, and when i try to explain it was the weaker Owen Reece they fought (not to mention he was completely insane) they don't want to hear it.

It was either that, or Bendis gave MM a huge downgrade. Osborne regarded Owen as nothing more than a planetary level power in that story.

Also, wasn't it mentioned some where that Owen expended a good deal of his power re-merging Beyonder with Kosmos, or am I crazy?

Originally posted by guy222
Lets ask the 42 year old thread starter who Beyonder is

hmm



He's that one guy in disco outfit.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

Sentry didn't fight the more powerful Molecule Man persona. That's sort of the issue though. Sentry fans have gone nuts over this, and when i try to explain it was the weaker Owen Reece they fought (not to mention he was completely insane) they don't want to hear it.
I see, from what I know of Sentry though, he shouldn't be able to touch even limited Owen,
who at that stage
is still one of the most powerful beings in the Omniverse according to the LT.

His unlimited side (evil MM) is just bananas.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

It was either that, or Bendis gave MM a huge downgrade.
Osborne regarded Owen as nothing more than a planetary level power in that story.


And yet, timid Owen said "ripping Galaxies apart, that's easy stuff"
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

Also, wasn't it mentioned some where that Owen expended a good deal of his power re-merging Beyonder with Kosmos, or am I crazy?
Nah,
MM put the Beyonder's essence back into Kosmos as easily as he ripped him out.

I think it's more likely Bendis either forgot or chose to ignore the dual personality Owen Reece thing from FF Annual #27. That hasn't been retconned as far as I'm aware.

All the while he simultaneously upgrades Sentry while downgrading Owen.

There is another possible explanation. Unfortunately, there isn't enough info about this new Sentry to make any sense out of it right now.

The first time they meet Owen is puzzled by Sentry, stating that he's never "tasted" Sentry's molecules before.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/th_Dark_Avengers_005-017.jpg

Later, in the next issue, Sentry seems to come bursting right out of Owens chest. After this happens is when Sentry "discovers his power" and is able to some how defeat Owen.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/th_DarkAvengers12011-12.jpg

Then, after he defeats Owen, he tries to explain everything to Osborne. He says "I learned something about myself today. I can control the molecules of my world. That's how I do what I do."

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/th_DarkAvengers12017.jpg

Like I said, there's not enough info about this new power he discovered to try and make sense of that, but I have a feeling that had something to do with it.

The art work is juicy.

But I can't get a fix on what's going on from just those scans.

In any case, the fact that he's claiming global scale control of molecules
puts him beneath the Owen I know.

I guess we'll just have to wait for more info to shine.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He's that one guy in disco outfit.

I don't dance silly

Bendis seems to like Sentry

Who Sentry or the Beyonder is anyone's guess

LT says, its all silly

Originally posted by Mr Master
Post Beyonder is more powerful than he's getting credit for here.

Post Beyonder was f'n up all reality at one time with his tampering on a Multiversal scale,
his death can cause havoc across the Multiverse
and apparently, still to this day,
post Beyonder is used as a punch line (in bios) in terms of what can bring down Eternity.

In fact, post Beyonder is credited with erasing Death (retconned to 616)
although this act still did spread across the Multiverse because it was 616's Death.

And Eternity needed help to try and attack the Beyonder
in the Beyonder's bane scenario. (all canon to post Beyonder)
And post Beyonder is also credited with nearly destroying Eternity during Secret Wars.
This fact was retconned in 1989, but then apparently retconned again in 2006.

Also ...

Thanos (in his limited mini which took place after he acquired the IG & HOTI)
stated that the Beyonder trapped withIN the Maker was "unlimited power"

... oh, post Beyonder also granted Rachel the full power of the Phoenix Force.

One last note:

When unlimited Owen (evil Molecule Man) battled post Beyonder,
he claimed that in all the infinities only he surpassed Beyonder in power.

Just a few updates for those dome pieces friends.

Odin has also shaken the multi-verse too, and he couldn't even down pre-resurrection Thanos.
And he never gave rachel the FP of the Phoenix. He only manipulated her into absorb everyone in her universe and such.

Originally posted by galactusischere

Odin has also shaken the multi-verse too,
and he couldn't even down pre-resurrection Thanos.
Odin didn't affect the Multiverse in any way, shape or form.
(I have that arc, it's misinterpreted by many)

On the other hand,
Owen & Beyonder's battle warped reality within realities across the Omniverse.

That aside,
please never again compare Odin to the likes of Cube beings.
Originally posted by galactusischere

And he never gave rachel the FP of the Phoenix.
He only manipulated her into absorb everyone in her universe and such.
My friend, I wouldn't make the statement if I didn't have proof.

Now again,
Post-Retcon Beyonder granted Rachel Summers the full power of the PF.

It was actually "pre-retcon" Beyonder who did it,
but the feat was made canon to the retconned version of Beyonder as well.

That's a fact some don't know about,
that is,
that many of the feats performed by classic Beyonder were passed on to Post-retcon B.

Oh, and btw, you're right,
Rachel was able to connect to every living being in 616 because of Post-Retcon Beyonder.

Sentry erases both Galactus and The Cube.

Originally posted by Mr Master


My friend, I wouldn't make the statement if I didn't have proof.

Now again,
Post-Retcon Beyonder granted Rachel Summers the full power of the PF.

It was actually "pre-retcon" Beyonder who did it,
but the feat was made canon to the retconned version of Beyonder as well.

That's a fact some don't know about,
that is,
that many of the feats performed by classic Beyonder were passed on to Post-retcon B.

Oh, and btw, you're right,
Rachel was able to connect to every living being in 616 because of Post-Retcon Beyonder.


Umm.. just saying but didn't rachel absrob most of the X-men? then she went on to eat a few other planets but realized that she was being manipulated by Beyonder to destroy the universe she was in and so on. Unless im mistaken, it was never stated that she had the full power of the Phoenix. Not that Beyonder couldn't give rachel the FP of the Phoenix.

Originally posted by Priest
Sentry erases both Galactus and The Cube.

Isnt a weaker Owen still above beings like Thor or Superman though? I know he's depowered, but I always still held him above those types of characters. I could easily be wrong though. I admit to not knowing enough about him.

It's not a question of whether or not Owen Reece is powerful, he is. The LT stated he was one of the most powerful beings in all of creation. The thing is, Sentry never fought the unrestricted, evil Molecule Man persona.

Debating these is a wonder

LT leaves that to the experts

I'm just a 42 old comic nerd

U ask me today, Sentry could be Beyonder. Maybe Beyonder is something else....Who knows besides those idiots writing him

Kubik is returning also. So I will post my 2 cents. Damm my opinion is nothing

G is powerful, lets see wat he does his next appearance

Here's a hint fellow friends. Kala wants to destroy everything. Who stops him

Ponder

I AM BEYONDER, now stop with the speculating, I wanna retain my anonymity!


stop it, or I'll make you into a squirrel!

Best post

Good to see ya my friend