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wolverine
sabretooth
Daken(no pheromones)
X23
Deadpool


vs


Batman
Ironfist(no IF)
Shiva
Elektra
Daredevil

open white void room, ko, kill bare hands for all

Team 1

If you want DC/Marvel people to even things out without using an avatar person, Batgirl's really good with pressure points. Shiva too, of course.

i would use batgirl but too many fans to consider it unbais so ill use shiva

Team 1 wins.

The Fist has some adamantium to destroy.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
wolverine
sabretooth
Daken(no pheromones)
X23
Deadpool


vs


Batman
Ironfist(no IF)
Shiva
Elektra
Daredevil

open white void room, ko, kill bare hands for all

TEAM 1 HAVE lots of adamantium, and so you take away IF's IF? You expect Batman to punch the adamantium skulls to death?

Good thread! Team 2 have the skill advantage, Elektra with sais could prolly, 5/10 - 6/10 any of these . IF could get a majority with chi, the HF may prove too much in the long run. Too much damage output with the adamantium.

Team 1 win handily though.

Team 1 in a spite.

Wolverine can go and hang out with anybodies in team 2, and that's before considering other things that his skills. He has almost superhuman strenght/speed, has superhuman stamina, is the most durable dude on the field, and to top that, he have a crazy ass HF.

And he have adamentium hard knuckle.


And that's only Wolverine

tell that to these buttwipes......


http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/healing-factor-vs-pressure-points/526982/?

Team one no doubt

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Team 1 in a spite.

Wolverine can go and hang out with anybodies in team 2, and that's before considering other things that his skills. He has almost superhuman strenght/speed, has superhuman stamina, is the most durable dude on the field, and to top that, he have a crazy ass HF.

And he have adamentium hard knuckle.


And that's only Wolverine

It's not like people on team two haven't beaten him before.

like who and how context.. pls

Originally posted by Q99
It's not like people on team two haven't beaten him before.

If someone in team two can hang with Hulk, or be able to own Spider-Man, I'll care.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
If someone in team two can hang with Hulk, or be able to own Spider-Man, I'll care.

They're completely different kinds of fights.

Wolverine can fight Hulk because his adamantium claws let him do damage. Daredevil and Elektra can jump around Hulk just as much, they just can't do damage. Elektra on the other hand, can and has stuck sai into Logan's pressure points.

Doesn't Spider-man normally beat Wolverine? Daredevil's been able to put up a fight against Peter on a few occasions for that matter.



Wolverine has some very specific advantages that let him fight the Hulk, ones that are of a lot less use in this fight, which has foes who've actually beaten him before.




Elektra. A strait fight. Stabbed him in his pressure points.

Daredevil. Punisher, Wolverine, and Matt were all present. Matt crushed his throat.


Elektra especially is a regular Logan foe/sparing partner who've clashed often and even helped retrain him once.

Which is not to say Wolverine can't beat them either, but losses do occur.

what elektra did with her sais to pin logan's shoulders clavicle and scapula wasnt a pressure point attack.. -_- it wasnt even close to a nerve strike..

it was a simple mechanical disruption of the skeletal system like sticking a rod in the spokes of a bicycle tire and she put all her weight on him to boot...

think of it as a chicken wing hold or joint lock


what DD did was complete PIS and contradicted past history to similar and even same attacks....

retraining logan when he was devolved doesnt mean she is remotely skilled as logan or teaching him anything he didnt already know. her job was to help bring the man back to the surface and help him put him on the right path

That is not the only time Elektra's beaten him, btw, that's just one example.

Here/here

Kenshiro beats both teams at once.

Originally posted by Q99
. Elektra on the other hand, can and has stuck sai into Logan's pressure points.

Yea when he just got off his detah bed and has 20 plus shield agent holding him down........ yea that clearly going to happen here.........and she does not even have her sia's.

Originally posted by Q99
Doesn't Spider-man normally beat Wolverine? Daredevil's been able to put up a fight against Peter on a few occasions for that matter.
Spidermans never beaten Wolverine and Wolverine tends to come off looking the better in there fights.



Originally posted by Q99
.ones that are of a lot less use in this fight, which has foes who've actually beaten him before.
His healing factor makes it almost impossiable for anyone on team two to take him an sort of majority in h2h combat.




Originally posted by Q99
Elektra. A strait fight. Stabbed him in his pressure points.
It was not a straight fight at all, maybe you should re read the issue. She ambushed him while he was pinned down by shield agents, that far froma straight fight. please dont ignore circumstance.

Originally posted by Q99
Daredevil. Punisher, Wolverine, and Matt were all present. Matt crushed his throat.
which goes against numerous on pannel events which depict more dangerous attacks hititng him with no effect, but some how matt able to do it with his hands to berserker wolverine? yea it called PIS and ennis garbage. Wolverine also dropped spiderman in three pannels during that fight.


Originally posted by Q99
Elektra especially is a regular Logan foe/sparing partner who've clashed often and even helped retrain him once.

Which is not to say Wolverine can't beat them either, but losses do occur.
She not a foe of wolverine and she sparred with him a few times when he had the mind of an animal. what relevence does that have in this match up?


You brought up one event which was not a straight up fight and filled with circumstance and another which was straight up pis. There was pis through out the run as well. It quite possibly the most pis filled arc to ever come out.

Originally posted by Q99
That is not the only time Elektra's beaten him, btw, that's just one example.

Here/here

create and now you uses a comic which frankly is not even cannon and were elektra straight up states the only reason she can take him is becuase he not willing to kill her, but she is willing to kill him. He also had her dead to rights in the final pannel of there fight if not for the tracker beam she would have gotten a claw in her throat which I notice you left out what a shocker and play it off as if she won..........

Originally posted by Q99
They're completely different kinds of fights.

Wolverine can fight Hulk because his adamantium claws let him do damage. Daredevil and Elektra can jump around Hulk just as much, they just can't do damage. Elektra on the other hand, can and has stuck sai into Logan's pressure points.

Doesn't Spider-man normally beat Wolverine? Daredevil's been able to put up a fight against Peter on a few occasions for that matter.



Wolverine has some very specific advantages that let him fight the Hulk, ones that are of a lot less use in this fight, which has foes who've actually beaten him before.




Elektra. A strait fight. Stabbed him in his pressure points.

Daredevil. Punisher, Wolverine, and Matt were all present. Matt crushed his throat.


Elektra especially is a regular Logan foe/sparing partner who've clashed often and even helped retrain him once.

Which is not to say Wolverine can't beat them either, but losses do occur.

1- Hulk can throw punch with several tons per inch on his fist. Logan tank them with his adamentium/HF. How about DareDevil and Elektra?

2- When Spider-Man beaten Wolverine? Wolverine usually win when they fight.

3- An all-out Wolverine would smack DareDevil and crush Elektra one time per day/everyday, and twice on sunday.

i have always believed that logan can take 2 or 3 of the top street lvlers alone... just from what i have seen him do from his top comic feats....

Team 2 would have the hardest hitter but that was taken away. but even if he had all of his powers.

he can't make up with what his team mates are lacking.

so team 1

okay most of you agree that team HF wins... so my question now is who takes who out? who matches who in the fighting how does team HF win?

again, bare hands vs adamantium and the top tier healing factors amongst marvel earth... and people are taking this seriously?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
who matches who in the fighting how does team HF win?

They win, because never in your life reading comics have you seen one of the Team HF put down long enough to be called a win, by an unenhanced human bare hand. Spite

Originally posted by Juk3n
again, bare hands vs adamantium and the top tier healing factors amongst marvel earth... and people are taking this seriously?

yes. b/c it is a serious question.

if it wasnt then a certain someone on this site wouldnt have bn run out of the site for arguing for the team HF... i mean probably like 10 ppl giving it to team pressure point and two or three against them

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
tell that to these buttwipes......


http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/healing-factor-vs-pressure-points/526982/?

you have to remember, comicvine and cbr are populated with morons, that give Shiva the majority vs Lady D and Wolverine in a 2 v 1 encounter.

The same arguments carry no weight on the KMC boards - the sensible boards.