Galactus vs. The Phoenix Force.

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pinksushi1
Here we go.
Official battle between two of the most powerful cosmic entities in the Marvel Universe.

Both at full power and both bloodlusted.

Who win and why?

No prep and no items or technology. Just the natural abilities that they have.


sick sick sick

Harbinger
Alternate thread title: "Mr. Master Vs. GalacticStorm."

Xplosive
The Phoenix Force

pinksushi1
Originally posted by Harbinger
Alternate thread title: "Mr. Master Vs. GalacticStorm."


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Power Cosmic II
Originally posted by pinksushi1
Here we go.
Official battle between two of the most powerful cosmic entities in the Marvel Universe.

Both at full power and both bloodlusted.

Who win and why?

No prep and no items or technology. Just the natural abilities that they have.


sick sick sick

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5202/158132864.gif

galactusischere
Should have made a poll.
Galactus gets my vote.

pinksushi1
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5202/158132864.gif

LMAO

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galactusischere
Lol.

pinksushi1
LMAO. What are you laughing at? This is basically a stalemate. Possibly.

pinksushi1
Bump.

hulkgoalie
Phoenix Force

pinksushi1
Why?

hulkgoalie
Jean Grey, with only part of the phoenix force, could probably beat galactus, the entire 'force' of the Phoenix Force shouldn't have a problem

and my current internet does not allow me to get some scans for you, sorry, maybe somebody else can find them

galactusischere
Nope. Galactus was starving when he fought rachel. I already posted the scans for you didn't I?

galactusischere
granted that the Phoenix has a smart user and knows of Galactus' purpose, they wouldn't ever fight to the death. The stakes are too high.

hulkgoalie
not rachel, i have read in some novels, not graphic, that jean grey was able to fight pretty much on level with galactus, and again, sorry, but proxies and a filter prohibit me from proving it...my bad...

pinksushi1
My question is, why do you think that Galactus can defeat the Phoenix Force, if he needs to feed and she does not?

Also, why would the stakes be too high? What do you mean by that?

hulkgoalie
the phoenix force isnt going to chance something that would leave a void in universe stability...would be my guess...

hulkgoalie
anyways, im outta here, will check back tomorrow...and yeah, should have done a poll...lol

galactusischere
I don't think he can defeat her. I don't think she can defeat him either.

And the stakes would be too high because when Galactus dies, Abraxas gets out. And when Abraxas comes out, he will destroy the multi-verse, unless someone gets ahold of the UN and stops him. LT wouldn't interfere because he believes in the cosmic balance. And Eternity, Death, and Infinity's purpose would be usurped by Abraxas and Oblivion.

When Phoenix dies, the multi-verse would go down with her. Remember what Roma and Death told Galactus? She is the life of the cosmoes apparently. While Galactus is the power of them.

pinksushi1
The fact that Galactus can die and the Phoenix Force can't puts her above him. Her raw power is above his. She is slightly more powerful. Galactus needs a suit of armor to contain his energies. She has no such suit or need to have one.

galactusischere
She wouldn't dare to crack open big G's armor. She would then have the PC released upon her.

Galactus can't "die". When he died he returned himself and a few others from the realms of death. And Mistress Death was fighting back. and the other time he died, he wanted to die. He told that to Surfer when he was at the brink of death. And Abraxas was released and got ahold of the most devastating weapon in all creation. Only Galactus could stop him by taking the UN from him and restarting the universe.

pinksushi1
PC? You mean power cosmic? She could just absorb that.

I think I saw Thanos crack Galactus' armor open.

Why didn't they send Galactus to defeat Phoenix when she was destroying so much life as Dark Phoenix?

galactusischere
Originally posted by pinksushi1
PC? You mean power cosmic? She could just absorb that.

I think I saw Thanos crack Galactus' armor open.

Why didn't they send Galactus to defeat Phoenix when she was destroying so much life as Dark Phoenix?

Well, did that do anything to Galactus other than pisisng him off? We are talking about completely cracking it open.

Anyways have you red Black Celestial Arc?

pinksushi1
No. Why?

galactusischere
Read that and learn of the true power of Galactus!!

pinksushi1
Learn the power of the Phoenix Force as well. LOL.

How old is it? Can I buy it on Amazon?

galactusischere
Probably.

It was released before 00's though. maybe even before 90's. I don't remember. But Galactus nearly reaches his full potential in that arc.

Mr.Master knows for sure thoug.

pinksushi1
Galactus can't be at full power. The Universe would all be consumed. No life left.

galactusischere
Galactus was omniversal in that arc. He was eating ALL reality.

Im gonan try to get scans, if I have luck finding the comic.

pinksushi1
So you still think Galactus?

galactusischere
Yup. Can't find the comic....

anyways check out these scans. They're almost as good

They're cannon to the LT...(I think)
Originally posted by galactusischere
Crap forgot the most important ones...

LT and a few other abstracts team up to stop Galactus(They shouldn't have brought the LT into this, they overdid it)

1- http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/1302/reedsuper2ir2.th.jpg

2- http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9383/reedsuper4hl5.th.jpg

3- http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9347/reedsuper5le6.th.jpg

4- http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/1729/reedsuper6iq6.th.jpg

pinksushi1
What comic book issue is that?

galactusischere
Last planet standing.

pinksushi1
Hehe sounds good and menacing. Is that a trade paper back?

the Darkone
Galactus was at full potential and was still consuming, it was stated that he could destroy the whole Celestial race. If Galactus didn't blink himself out of existence he would have devour the Omniverse.

galactusischere
Originally posted by the Darkone
Galactus was at full potential and was still consuming, it was stated that he could destroy the whole Celestial race. If Galactus didn't blink himself out of existence he would have devour the Omniverse.

That was black celestial arc though. Not Last Planet Standing.

but yea big G FTW.

pinksushi1
The Phoenix Force is also multiversal. Neither of them is a pushover.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by Harbinger
Alternate thread title: "Mr. Master Vs. GalacticStorm."

lol. but seriously, the full pheonix force should beat out Big G.

Reason... Peonix can draw energy from the universe without consuming shit via a machine. It just takes it from "future generations of unborn beings" (galactus said that, not making shit up) so they couyld go at it for a bit but eventually Galactus will tire and pheonix with beat him.

galactusischere
Or Galactus starts to feed upon the universe/Phoenix as he has before.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by galactusischere
Or Galactus starts to feed upon the universe/Phoenix as he has before.

what? He needs alot of preparation to start feeding. Pheonix simply takes it from the multiverse.

Unless i missed something.

galactusischere
Galactus doesn't really need his tech to feed upon planets. It was made clear in SW. and Galactus only sends his heralds/wastes alot of time building his matter convertor because he wants to give the inhabitants of the planet he is about to feed time to flee.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by galactusischere
Galactus doesn't really need his tech to feed upon planets. It was made clear in SW. and Galactus only sends his heralds/wastes alot of time building his matter convertor because he wants to give the inhabitants of the planet he is about to feed time to flee.

IDkl man it just seems like Pheonix does it it with far more ease. Its like Phoenix is inexhaustible.

pinksushi1
Originally posted by galactusischere
Galactus doesn't really need his tech to feed upon planets. It was made clear in SW. and Galactus only sends his heralds/wastes alot of time building his matter convertor because he wants to give the inhabitants of the planet he is about to feed time to flee.


SW?

galactusischere
Secret Wars.

pinksushi1
Is he a major character in it? How often does he appear in it?

galactusischere
Ye he is...he appears in 5-7 issues of SW.
its the same stroy where Beyonder shows up.

Mr Master
Originally posted by galactusischere

When Phoenix dies, the multi-verse would go down with her.
Phoenix's existence has no power or influence over Eternity/Infinity.

If the PF dies, then the stars of reality would die
killing off all life that needs stars to survive,
but Space-Time would continue on forever more,
and all sentient life that is self sustained without the need of external stars
would also go one existing without a drop of trouble.
Originally posted by galactusischere

Remember what Roma and Death told Galactus?
She is the life of the cosmoes apparently.
While Galactus is the power of them.
Roma never said that good friend.

And for the record, Phoenix is not the life of the cosmos,
Eternity/Infinity are the life-force of reality.

The Phoenix Force is sustained by the psyche of living beings,
in fact, it depends on living beings to survive,
without life (that requires stars to survive) Phoenix is nothing.

So in essence, "life" is the true sustenance of the stars,
and the Phoenix Force is the conceptual representation of that connection.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Lord Feron

Its like Phoenix is inexhaustible.
I disagree.

The actual Phoenix Force has been blown to pieces twice,
by a planetary scale EMP, and by a shiar weapon.
The same pure incarantion of the Force has also been nearly killed by some alien ship,
and nearly erased from existence by Galactus.
The Phoenix Force was also stalemated by Quasar when he fought a fully bonded Rachel,
and stalemated and even bfr'd by 6 freakin heroes. (one of which was Rogue) laughing out loud

Prep-Man
Galactus wins.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by Mr Master
I disagree.

The actual Phoenix Force has been blown to pieces twice,
by a planetary scale EMP, and by a shiar weapon.
The same pure incarantion of the Force has also been nearly killed by some alien ship,
and nearly erased from existence by Galactus.
The Phoenix Force was also stalemated by Quasar when he fought a fully bonded Rachel,
and stalemated and even bfr'd by 6 freakin heroes. (one of which was Rogue) laughing out loud

I just remeber that fight between galactus and Pheoix (think the avatar was rachel but think the PF was in control). Galactus said something like "your attacking me for killing people, do you know what you are doing? Your power comes from unborn generations of the universe" or some shit like that. She is taking life to fuel her power.

pinksushi1
Originally posted by Mr Master
I disagree.

The actual Phoenix Force has been blown to pieces twice,
by a planetary scale EMP, and by a shiar weapon.
The same pure incarantion of the Force has also been nearly killed by some alien ship,
and nearly erased from existence by Galactus.
The Phoenix Force was also stalemated by Quasar when he fought a fully bonded Rachel,
and stalemated and even bfr'd by 6 freakin heroes. (one of which was Rogue) laughing out loud

Was that the multiversal Phoenix Force or just an avatar? Because the Goblin Force also defeated the Phoenix Force.

galactusischere
Originally posted by pinksushi1
Was that the multiversal Phoenix Force or just an avatar? Because the Goblin Force also defeated the Phoenix Force.

The full force of the phoenix got defeated by a few heroes(6 I think).

pinksushi1
And Ghost Rider defeated Galactus. As did Rachel Grey.

galactusischere
GR defeated Galactus...in a cartoon. Rache barely defeated a starving Galactus.

pinksushi1
Galactus ran away from Rachel. I think there are a few others who shouldn't have been able to defeat Galactus as well.

galactusischere
Originally posted by pinksushi1
Galactus ran away from Rachel. I think there are a few others who shouldn't have been able to defeat Galactus as well.
Galactus lost, but never ran away. and all the other instances where they met, Phoenix submitted to Galactus.

pinksushi1
But Galactus still lost.

Colossus-Big C
galactus needs to be depowerd to thors level

galactusischere
He was starving though...that fight was hardly even fair.

pinksushi1
So if galactus was not starving, then he would have won?

galactusischere
IMO yes.

pinksushi1
Apoc. can't transmute matter, by the way.

galactusischere
Originally posted by pinksushi1
Apoc. can't transmute matter, by the way. So I've heard.

And do we come to a verdict on this?

pinksushi1
A very well fed Galactus might be able to defeat the Phoenix Force. The Phoenix Force has worse defeats than he.

"Be gone little bird!"

pinksushi1
Bump. Any other thoughts?

"Id"

galactusischere

Xplosive
Originally posted by galactusischere
Except that CIS and PIS are off. Galactus would eat the phoenix.

Yes and Phoenix would just watch it. Without CIS and PIS, Phoenix would simply destroy him.

the ninjak
Galactus becomes Phoenix

WIN for both involved big grin

Whitemancame
Originally posted by Harbinger
Alternate thread title: "Mr. Master Vs. GalacticStorm."



Mr. master win big grin


The Phoenix Force win
big grin

galactusischere
Originally posted by Xplosive
Yes and Phoenix would just watch it. Without CIS and PIS, Phoenix would simply destroy him.

No she wouldn't. Rachel barely defeated a starving Galactus.

"Id"

galactusischere

Xplosive
Originally posted by galactusischere
No she wouldn't. Rachel barely defeated a starving Galactus.

Barely? Really?

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Xplosive
Barely? Really?

Yes. She barely defeate him. The fight was on like 10 panels.

and what about the other times where Phoenix fled or sumbitted to Galactus?

Xplosive
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Yes. She barely defeate him. The fight was on like 10 panels

She didn't even struggle.

"Id"
Originally posted by galactusischere
yea she did.
The fight was loong..

What does longevity have to do with struggling?

TheTyrant
Originally posted by "Id"
What does longevity have to do with struggling?

LMAO one decent hit would have finished her off. Phoenix has crappy durability.
she was avoiding big G's blasts. While Galactus was tanking them most of the time.

"Id"
Originally posted by TheTyrant
LMAO one decent hit would have finished her off. Phoenix has crappy durability.
she was avoiding big G's blasts. While Galactus was tanking them most of the time.

Actually Galactus did connect.

pinksushi1
Bump.

Xplosive
Phoenix Force wins.

quanchi112
Galactus wins.

Magnon
Phoenix wins.

iceman24567
Galactus wins

Lnw89
Galactus!!

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