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who is physically stronger captain america or wolverine?

Wolverine should be stronger by feats

Wolverine.

he one arm lifted held an elevator full of ppl while hanging from the other..... i think that is his highest strength lifting feat.

unless we count striking power and breaking out of holds or holding other metas.

it could also be attributed to his bones and locking maneuvers in grappling to make it possible.

The Smelly Canadian > former Pencilneck American on super-roids

wolverine is around 1 ton if I'm not mistaken

^

go higher

Originally posted by Mshinu
The Smelly Canadian > former Pencilneck American on super-roids

hey now... that was uncalled for!

Originally posted by Lord Feron
hey now... that was uncalled for!

it wasnt roids it was a natural supplement derived from herbs!!!!!!!!

Cap all the way


http://img179.imageshack.us/i/capstrenfdoor1tk0.jpg/

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
it wasnt roids it was a natural supplement derived from herbs!!!!!!!!

Herbs are for hippies!

this can easily be settled between the two in a bar punch for punch contest.

i wonder who would win and prove they are stronger?

also i want some scans of cap when he was accused of being a hypocrite and him being the ultimate roid freak

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
this can easily be settled between the two in a bar punch for punch contest.

i wonder who would win and prove they are stronger?
I think Wolverine would had a huge advantage there you healing factor and Adam. bones and all

Captain America is a virgin.

Wolverine, on the other hand, is a playah... a straight-up pimp.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
this can easily be settled between the two in a bar punch for punch contest.

i wonder who would win and prove they are stronger?

Well Cap 3 shotted the Hulk with punches...

Originally posted by DarkOdin
I think Wolverine would had a huge advantage there you healing factor and Adam. bones and all

fine. let's change it so Cap has a chance. lets say a arm wrestling contest over the top style....

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
fine. let's change it so Cap has a chance. lets say a arm wrestling contest over the top style.... Know we got a match but lets not allow any backwards hats don't want one guy turning the switch on

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Know we got a match but lets not allow any backwards hats don't want one guy turning the switch on

i think im going to load and watch that movie now...


anyways, lets continue this how many ways can one guy or mutant prove he is the superior physical specimen.

umm.... lets see each one puts the other in a american style regulation bear hold and see if the other can flex his way out without being crushed..

i wonder who would win...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well Cap 3 shotted the Hulk with punches...

In his respect thread there are scans of logan doing that to the abomination.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
it could also be attributed to his bones and locking maneuvers in grappling to make it possible.

+healing factor

Most recent strength feat:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9413/wfc21017.th.jpg http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7264/wfc21020.th.jpg

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Cap all the way


http://img179.imageshack.us/i/capstrenfdoor1tk0.jpg/

Haven't seen that before. Nice feat.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well Cap 3 shotted the Hulk with punches...

Spidey helped him http://images.killermovies.com/forums/icons/v2/icon4.gif

Originally posted by 753
In his respect thread there are scans of logan doing that to the abomination.

Yeah, but that was with claws.

his claws didnt really change much it was still his overall strength..

anyways a better steel door feat was when he was death and broke through even with x-man TK help.

also when he was carrying a ninja kid on his shoulders and tossed a guy through a steel bolted door where ironfist was hiding in.

also he broke omniom shackles same material that colossus is compose of, iirc

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
his claws didnt really change much it was still his overall strength..

Wouldn't say that. The kick to the head was a strength feat, though.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
anyways a better steel door feat was when he was death and broke through even with x-man TK help.

Was thinking about that, too. But it was stated that he was slicing through it.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
also when he was carrying a ninja kid on his shoulders and tossed a guy through a steel bolted door where ironfist was hiding in.

Could you tell me what issue that was?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
also he broke omniom shackles same material that colossus is compose of, iirc

Colossus is composed of unknown metal resembling osmium, not omnium

The toughest shackles I remember him busting out from were those unbreakable chromalloy and Mesmero ones.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wouldn't say that. The kick to the head was a strength feat, though.



Was thinking about that, too. But it was stated that he was slicing through it.


well he did still have to break through it after slicing the doors that were being backed by X-man.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Could you tell me what issue that was?

nope sorry it is his respect thread i think the guy he was fighting at the time was matsu or something... he had stolen the iron fist from danny and kick his @$$ and his friends and logan had to come in and show them what a real lvl 7 MA'er can do.




Colossus is composed of unknown metal resembling osmium, not omnium

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The toughest shackles I remember him busting out from were those unbreakable chromalloy and Mesmero ones.

the unbreakable ones right? even better...

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
well he did still have to break through it after slicing the doors that were being backed by X-man.

Good point.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
nope sorry it is his respect thread i think the guy he was fighting at the time was matsu or something... he had stolen the iron fist from danny and kick his @$$ and his friends and logan had to come in and show them what a real lvl 7 MA'er can do.

You mean Junzo?



BTW, am I the only one who considers the wagon feat from Origins #36 impressive?

CA is fairly stronger than Logan by both feats and average showings.
Wolverine doesn't even come out as having super strength in most appearances. Most people don't even know that Wolverine is very strong. But many know CA is.

CA has feats that exceed 5 tons. He was also using strength dampeners as well to keep his strength at peak human levels.

Originally posted by h1a8
CA is fairly stronger than Logan by both feats and average showings.
Wolverine doesn't even come out as having super strength in most appearances. Most people don't even know that Wolverine is very strong. But many know CA is.

CA has feats that exceed 5 tons. He was also using strength dampeners as well to keep his strength at peak human levels.

care to explain said feats?

Most people think Cap is just peak human...

Logan has a feat exceeding 15 tons

Captain America strength level is peak human. Wolverine strength level is enhance human. Enhance human is higher then peak human therefore Wolverine is stronger then Captain America.

Wolverine has gone into the meta range multiple times. And that feat with Cap repeatedly hitting the door, didn't Wolverine trap Colossus in the danger room, set it on high, then pried his way through the locked door, leaving it dented where he pushed it apart?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
care to explain said feats?

Koing Hulk in a few blows, Throwing a shield faster than a missle, crumbling a 1/2ft thick steel door, putting a serious hurting on class 75 and greater beings with his kicks alone, etc.

Well, Wolverine took down Roughouse with only punches.

He slashed through Thanos with bone claws.

Etc...

Wolverine, imo.

Originally posted by beast1234
Captain America strength level is peak human. Wolverine strength level is enhance human. Enhance human is higher then peak human therefore Wolverine is stronger then Captain America.

If you are going by official bios then Wolverine isn't even peak human.
If you are going by comics CA not only has more strength feats but better ones too.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well, Wolverine took down Roughouse with only punches.

He slashed through Thanos with bone claws.

Etc...

Wolverine has the adamantium advantage is why his blows are damaging. CA has hurt and koed stronger foes with his ordinary being (no adamantium advantage).

The second one isn't canon. Otherwise Thanos is a pillow man.

I agree Logan having enhanced skeletal structure helps him hit harder and lift more weight.

Originally posted by beast1234
Captain America strength level is peak human. Wolverine strength level is enhance human. Enhance human is higher then peak human therefore Wolverine is stronger then Captain America.

That's what handbooks are saying.

Going by feats and on panel statements, they are both enhanced.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wolverine has gone into the meta range multiple times. And that feat with Cap repeatedly hitting the door, didn't Wolverine trap Colossus in the danger room, set it on high, then pried his way through the locked door, leaving it dented where he pushed it apart?

Yep.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you are going by official bios then Wolverine isn't even peak human.

Wrong.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW



Wrong.

I haven't read any new handbooks (>2005). The OHOTMU doesn't have Wolverine as enhanced human.

Originally posted by h1a8
I haven't read any new handbooks (>2005). The OHOTMU doesn't have Wolverine as enhanced human.

Originally posted by ankur29
logan's profile from OHOTMU master edition entry :

gives outright stats to his powers

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5737/wolverineyellow1h.th.jpghttp://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6876/wolverineyellow2.th.jpg

what the stats mean:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6025/thpowersabilities.jpg

What year was that handbook? Maybe I'm confusing with another handbook (could be X-men 2004 or something).

Originally posted by h1a8
What year was that handbook? Maybe I'm confusing with another handbook (could be X-men 2004 or something).

Don't know. Wolverine 2004 handbook had his strength in superhuman range, too (800 Ibs - 25 ton).

http://marvel.com/universe/Wolverine
LOL at the fanvotes...

and har har har to this:

Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://marvel.com/universe/Wolverine
LOL at the fanvotes...

http://marvel.com/universe/Spider-man

vin

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://marvel.com/universe/Spider-man

vin These are quiet accurate IMO
EDIT: J/K
EDIT: Speed and fighting skills btw what exactly is energy projection?

http://marvel.com/universe/Aunt_May
hysterical

Peak human strength, superhuman speed, durability - regenerative, genius level intelligence...

May rulz!!!

Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://marvel.com/universe/Aunt_May
hysterical

Dude

Seriously...

May with a frying pan will f#(K you up 20 ways to Sunday...

With a rolling pin, she can stomp Galactus...

Squirrel Girl ranks her as a mentor...

Didn't you know?

*********

Now, the Spiderman fan-stats? THAT s#!t is redonkulous...

Ain't like he's May or anything...

I'd say Cap is stronger.

I completely disregard those stats Marvel puts up. The official votes aren't much better than the fan votes at times.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://marvel.com/universe/Wolverine
LOL at the fanvotes...

Oh, good lord; those fan-stats are even more absurd than the ones they gave Petey...

Anywho...

Classically, CA was stronger than Wolverine.

In recent decades, feats for both have them in the above peak human range for strength.

If it were a simple act of strength (a punch, a quick heave-ho, etc.) then I'd say they were comparable. However, Logan's adamantium and healing powers allow him to push his relative strength to a degree, and duration, that Steve would be hard pressed to match. So in that regard, and over the long haul, I'd give it to Wolverine.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'd say Cap is stronger.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Good point.



You mean Junzo?



BTW, am I the only one who considers the wagon feat from Origins #36 impressive?

i told recall the feat... sorry.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://marvel.com/universe/Wolverine
LOL at the fanvotes...

and har har har to this:

which in particular are you referring to?

^He had something up that was like, regardless of Wolverines healing factor, deep puncture wounds, loss of internal organs, and incineration can kill him.

I always thought 616 Cap's Super Soldier Serum enhanced all of his physical attributes to peak human efficiency.
Whereas Logan can snap a boat oar.

Originally posted by KingD19
^He had something up that was like, regardless of Wolverines healing factor, deep puncture wounds, loss of internal organs, and incineration can kill him.

what are you talking about and what does his ability to die have to do with strength.

Wolverine should not have super strength ... instead of cap should, because of super serum.

Originally posted by Lostedge
Wolverine should not have super strength ... instead of cap should, because of super serum.


Originally posted by the ninjak
I always thought 616 Cap's Super Soldier Serum enhanced all of his physical attributes to peak human efficiency.
Whereas Logan can snap a boat oar.


I know Ultimate Cap has added strength. But 616? And Logan definetly has added strength, perfect for lugging around those heavy bones.

Originally posted by Lostedge
Wolverine should not have super strength ... instead of cap should, because of super serum.

you mean the SSS that was created solely to replicate logan's physiology that only worked on Cap on scaled back lvl?


retcon...

Originally posted by the ninjak
I know Ultimate Cap has added strength. But 616? And Logan definetly has added strength, perfect for lugging around those heavy bones. 616 is a beast http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmericav301003.jpg From the respect thread

^what??
in one of the last avengers issues just before HoM he was struggle to lift a car

Originally posted by Warlord
^what??
in one of the last avengers issues just before HoM he was struggle to lift a car He must not of limbered up first

More from the respect thread this should put Capt on top

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8116/capamchosen6011cp5.jpg


Curling 500 pounds and verbally owning beast try that Logan

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1125/curl500tu1.jpg


Breaking chains HAAA Capt breaks down the whole statue

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8218/captainamericav305061cs8.jpg

how about he throws a full grown man against a hurricane wind lets see cap do that...


Wolverine murauding around as Death displays tremendous strength tossing a man against the force of Storms hurricane winds:
1. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9215/hurricwindsir5.jpg

Linked didn't work.

Here is Cap. in a hurricane

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/wcannual04-27.jpg

And Capt has tossed Big Bertha 700 pound

Hulk 1000 pounds

and Terrax over 2000 pounds so no problem for Capt

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Linked didn't work.

Here is Cap. in a hurricane

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/wcannual04-27.jpg

And Capt has tossed Big Bertha 700 pound

Hulk 1000 pounds

and Terrax over 2000 pounds so no problem for Capt

try again its fixed also... logan matched and stopped sabretooth punch certified superhuman strength on par with that version of sabe,,,



Wolverine stops Sabretooth's superhuman punch dead cold:
1. http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8549/stopssabretoothspunchxs0.jpg

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
try again its fixed also... logan matched and stopped sabretooth punch certified superhuman strength on par with that version of sabe,,,



Wolverine stops Sabretooth's superhuman punch dead cold:
1. http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8549/stopssabretoothspunchxs0.jpg that is a decent feat still not holding up rumble from a skyscraper

And the one you fixed is Horsemen Wolverine not normal Logan

Originally posted by DarkOdin
that is a decent feat still not holding up rumble from a skyscraper

And the one you fixed is Horsemen Wolverine not normal Logan

their is no difference between his strength nor any superhuman upgrade. every wolverine fan knows that.

also in the logan sabe scan sabe strength can be guessed to be around the 10 to 15 ton range due to having a point of reference by forge

Strength:
Batman > Wolverine > Captain America ahah

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
their is no difference between his strength nor any superhuman upgrade. every wolverine fan thinks that. fixed

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Strength:
Batman > Wolverine > Captain America ahah

thats not fair bats is powered by the belief of fans and has batsuit ampage...

Originally posted by DarkOdin
fixed

proof me wrong

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Strength:
Batman > Wolverine > Captain America ahah Wolverine and Capt are street level it is just plain stupid to bring in Batman we all know he is high Abtract so why bring it up

Originally posted by Wild Shadow



proof me wrong No one can prove you wrong not because you are right but b/c you are a wolverine fan Anyway alternate version feats are non-canon anyway......unless you are a logan fan

Originally posted by DarkOdin
No one can prove you wrong not because you are right but b/c you are a wolverine fan Anyway alternate version feats are non-canon anyway......unless you are a logan fan


death wolverine was and is canon.. all you need to do is show me panel evidence showing a strength increase...

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
death wolverine was and is canon.. all you need to do is show me panel evidence showing a strength increase... All you need to do is what Apokolips did to Logan to make him Death. given the fact that every horseman gets upgraded when he makes them one.

I think in the Cap pic of him holding up the skyscraper, he is using that other shield that was created to replace his normal one. The new shield repels force or something. Ex. Rhino ran head strong into it while Cap held it. Rhino got pushed back about 20 feet. So the shield could be assisting him with the building. On the other hand he did KO Rhino with a kick to the nose.

Originally posted by EvilTyrant
I think in the Cap pic of him holding up the skyscraper, he is using that other shield that was created to replace his normal one. The new shield repels force or something. Ex. Rhino ran head strong into it while Cap held it. Rhino got pushed back about 20 feet. So the shield could be assisting him with the building. On the other hand he did KO Rhino with a kick to the nose. LOL well Rhino jobber aura is a factor too and to Go back to Wild shadow wasn't Logans reason for fighting and becoming a horsemen was because he was afraid that sabertooth would be too dangerous with becoming a horsemen so there was an upgrade some where besides the Adam.

Apoc gave Logan adamantium back and some tech, that's it.


Originally posted by jinzin
Wolverine whethers storms hurricane winds (all she has) to get to her:
1. http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6402/stormshurrianepk8.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Apoc gave Logan adamantium back and some tech, that's it. And what tech did he get. Didn't hulk only have some tech upgrades and he manhandle Juggs

Originally posted by DarkOdin
And what tech did he get. Didn't hulk only have some tech upgrades and he manhandle Juggs

Armor, sword, TP blockers, cloaking device and that bomb he used on Rogue.

Adamantiumless Logan waded through Storm's hail and hurricane. It's no wonder that with adamantium he could toss Mikhail like that.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
try again its fixed also... logan matched and stopped sabretooth punch certified superhuman strength on par with that version of sabe,,,



Wolverine stops Sabretooth's superhuman punch dead cold:
1. http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8549/stopssabretoothspunchxs0.jpg
US Agent's a 10 or 15 tonner too...

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8246/invaders082005page07ua8.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3109/invaders082005page08tq2.jpg

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
try again its fixed also... logan matched and stopped sabretooth punch certified superhuman strength on par with that version of sabe,,,



Wolverine stops Sabretooth's superhuman punch dead cold:
1. http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8549/stopssabretoothspunchxs0.jpg

Which is considered PIS since Wolverine is not stronger than Sabretooth.

you dont know that.... and i think your very bias hypocritical to call wolverine feat Pis and not acknowledge or make the same claim for Cap.


also this thread is to show who is stronger and by feats..

@darthgooger
anyways lets move on i can top the U.S. Agent feat with wolverines breaking Ursa Majors bear hug....

Usually - Wolverine
When He Needs to Be - Cap

imo

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
@darthgooger
anyways lets move on i can top the U.S. Agent feat with wolverines breaking Ursa Majors bear hug....
I've seen that feat and I disagree, to me it looks more like he slipped out rather than actually break Ursa's grip. Makes more sense too seeing as how Ursa's taken on the Hulk.

they are peers in strength
800lbs- 2 ton range

Wolverine, Captain america is peak, Wolverine is over peak. Simple and done.

Originally posted by kakuzu
Captain america is peak,


Pick up a comic for christs sake.

^ I think what he meant was, Captain America is stated as peak human, but performs above that time and again.

Originally posted by kakuzu
Wolverine, Captain america is peak, Wolverine is over peak. Simple and done.

i would agree by stats but neither stick to their stats they regularly surpass them...

Cap makes the other Peak look like olympic lvl guys.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Pick up a comic for christs sake.

Then open it and start reading.

Originally posted by Mindset
Then open it and start reading.


Oh Snap!!

Originally posted by meep-meep
Oh Snap!!

2000 called they want there off hand substitution for "sh*t" back.

Cap easily.

Getting into a feat war, Cap beat the shit out of Hulk. Let's see dick fingers do that.