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Im talking about the Apoc that tanked BB's scream, owned the Inhumans, had the upper hand in his fight with Loki and High Evo, owned Ikaris and finally killed Stryfe.

Either of the team solo.

GL's for the win.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Either of the team solo. Prove, that the GLs can do the feats that Apoc has acomplished without the help of PIS.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Either of the team solo. This.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Prove, that the GLs can do the feats that Apoc has acomplished without the help of PIS. Prove what Apoc has done agaisnt people with a far superior track record inst PIS/CIS.

Riight. Since when can Gls do the feats that I mentioned without PIS?

Originally posted by Nihilist
Prove what Apoc has done agaisnt people with a far superior track record inst PIS/CIS.

Simple, PIS/CIS NEVER help Apoc, that's why he is THE biggest jobber in all of comics.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Riight. Since when can Gls do the feats that I mentioned without PIS? So they have have todo the exact same feats to have a chance of beating Apoc

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Simple, PIS/CIS NEVER help Apoc, that's why he is THE biggest jobber in all of comics. All the feats you mention are against guys that would crush Apoc due to their track record barring Stryfe.

But they didn't...

How exactly does Apoc beat either GL, let alone both?

Originally posted by Nihilist
So they have have todo the exact same feats to have a chance of beating Apoc Not exact. I want to see them beating people on Loki/HE's level without the help of PIS/CIS.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How exactly does Apoc beat either GL, let alone both? Because of superior feats without the help of PIS/CIS.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
But they didn't... Due to pis/cis.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Not exact. I want to see them beating people on Loki/HE's level without the help of PIS/CIS. Apoc never beat Loki or HE and HE's showing constantly go up and down.

CIS/PIS have never helped Apoc. Which is why he is the biggest jobber out there.

Either one of the GL's win easily.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Because of superior feats without the help of PIS/CIS.

What exactly does he do, though?

Originally posted by Nihilist
Apoc never beat Loki or HE and HE's showing constantly go up and down.


He had the upper hand in both fights. And plus Loki wanted to actually recruit Apoc..

Originally posted by TheTyrant
He had the upper hand in both fights. And plus Loki wanted to actually recruit Apoc.. Nah they was stalemating.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What exactly does he do, though? Simple he teleports behind them and with one single physical contact merges himself with them.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Simple he teleports behind them and with one single physical contact merges himself with them. Can't happen

Autoshields come to mind, to say nothing of their reflexes.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Nah they was stalemating. No, Loki had to flee. And he never did damage/hurt Apoc, while Apoc DID damage/hurt Loki.
H/E one was a stalemate though I admit.

http://homepage.mac.com/aurich/ars/locks/feed_trolls.gif

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Can't happen Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Autoshields come to mind, to say nothing of their reflexes.

Ok, then how do the GLs damage APoc exactly? With the barriers and all.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
No, Loki had to flee. And he never did damage/hurt Apoc, while Apoc DID damage/hurt Loki.
H/E one was a stalemate though I admit. What damage did he actually do to Loki?

And Apoc bfr'd/flee'd agaisnt Ikaris.

Originally posted by Harbinger
http://homepage.mac.com/aurich/ars/locks/feed_trolls.gif

Still no proof.

Apoc has way too many powers.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Ok, then how do the GLs damage APoc exactly? With the barriers and all.

Considering the power output GL's can put out, and the fact Apoc has been hurt before by Gambit/Cyclops etc, I'll say by blasting him repeatedly in the face.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Ok, then how do the GLs damage APoc exactly? With the barriers and all.
Auto shield and Nano technology helps them. Though, you still need to proof how Apoc can do such a thing

Seriously, either one of them solos. Together, it's spite. The only way this match can be even more of a spite is if it's Apoc vs. Guy Gardner uhuh

Apocalypse vs Ikaris:
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/newet-p47.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/newet-p48.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/newet-p49.jpg

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse vs Ikaris:
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/newet-p47.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/newet-p48.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/newet-p49.jpg And Ikaris isnt close to Alan or Hal's lvl.

Originally posted by Nihilist
What damage did he actually do to Loki?

And Apoc bfr'd/flee'd agaisnt Ikaris.

Apocalypse vs. Stryfe.


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It took Stryfe and Bishop everything they had to 'kill' Apocalypse at his weakest.


And...
REVENGE!
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http://img263.imageshack.us/i/apoconeshotscyclopsnw0.jpg/
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Cyclops' optic beam has been referred to as "an unlimited amount of energy" linked to an extra-dimensional source, even shown capable of feeding the Phoenix for eternity.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6733/cyclopsunlimitedenergy1ib5.png

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse vs Ikaris:
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/newet-p47.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/newet-p48.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/newet-p49.jpg

Great. Too bad nothing Apoc did in those would pose a trouble for a GL, let alone two of the most powerful ones.

Damn it, some of the scans aren't working. Anyways Apoc "defeats" Phoenix in them.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Damn it, some of the scans aren't working. Anyways Apoc "defeats" Phoenix in them. Why "defeats" and isnt that from the twelve.

The Twelve is cannon unlike AoA. And what is going to stop Apoc from draining the Gls?

Alright the scans are fixed now.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
The Twelve is cannon unlike AoA. And what is going to stop Apoc from draining the Gls? You didnt answer my question about the "defeats" part.

And in the twelve Apoc had a power up.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
The Twelve is cannon unlike AoA. And what is going to stop Apoc from draining the Gls?

Willpower.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Willpower. They don't have as much willpower as Apoc has. Not even close.

Originally posted by Nihilist
You didnt answer my question about the "defeats" part.
Sorry I didn't get what you meant by that.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
They don't have as much willpower as Apoc has. Not even close.

Do you mean either of them on their own, or both of them combined? Either assumption is wrong, but I'm curious as to what you think.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Sorry I didn't get what you meant by that. You put "defeats" as though it is questionable, and like i said the twelve doesnt count as he had a power up.

Also, in that scan Apoc stated he was draining bio-energy from Cyclops, which =/= the ability to drain energy/attacks from the rings...

Originally posted by Nihilist
You put "defeats" as though it is questionable, and like i said the twelve doesnt count as he had a power up.

Oh, well she got defeated by a mix of Apoc's telepathy and his uglyness.

Apoc has had a permeanant power-up recently too. So he is stronger than he was in his previous appearences.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Oh, well she got defeated by a mix of Apoc's telepathy and his uglyness.

Apoc has had a permeanant power-up recently too. So he is stronger than he was in his previous appearences.

No, he was restored to his normal levels after dying away for hundreds of years until Archangel found him, if you're refering to the X-force 'power up'.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Oh, well she got defeated by a mix of Apoc's telepathy and his uglyness.

Apoc has had a permeanant power-up recently too. So he is stronger than he was in his previous appearences. He isnt more powerfull than he was in the twelve at all.

The combined powers he had then dwarf what he has now, in the twelve he could reality warp and created a mini universe iirc.

One on one Apoc IMO(due to being a fanboy probably). But two on one makes this spite.

Originally posted by Nihilist
He isnt more powerfull than he was in the twelve at all.

The combined powers he had then dwarf what he has now, in the twelve he could reality warp and created a mini universe iirc. Meh, in all fairness he did warp reality in AgeS of Apocalypse too. But still he loses this fight.

Originally posted by galactusischere
One on one Apoc IMO(due to being a fanboy probably). But two on one makes this spite.
What can Apoc do to even challenge them?

He can do alot of things to even challenge them. ie suck out their energy, punch them to eath using his immeasurable strenght, or simply teleport behind them and merge himself with them.

And by saying "What can Apoc do to even challenge them?" do you mean that this is spite? cause it isn't.

BTW By the last part I meant that a one-on-one fight between either of the GLs and Apoc this isn't spite.

Originally posted by galactusischere
He can do alot of things to even challenge them. ie suck out their energy, punch them to eath using his immeasurable strenght, or simply teleport behind them and merge himself with them.

And by saying "What can Apoc do to even challenge them?" do you mean that this is spite? cause it isn't. Sucking their energy wont work. Fusing with them is sutile. They have auto shield, and nano technology. This is why Cyborg S can't do it too them.
Strength? They can hand with Mongul, Superman, BA, and other High Heralds and you think Apoc can stop them?

Originally posted by galactusischere
He can do alot of things to even challenge them. ie suck out their energy, punch them to eath using his immeasurable strenght, or simply teleport behind them and merge himself with them.

And by saying "What can Apoc do to even challenge them?" do you mean that this is spite? cause it isn't. Putting Apoc against two of the strongests GL simultaneously is certainly spite. Give the guy a teammate, at least.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Putting Apoc against two of the strongests GL simultaneously is certainly spite. Give the guy a teammate, at least.
Originally posted by galactusischere
BTW By the last part I meant that a one-on-one fight between either of the GLs and Apoc this isn't spite.
and I didn't make the thread.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Sucking their energy wont work. Fusing with them is sutile. They have auto shield, and nano technology. This is why Cyborg S can't do it too them.
Strength? They can hand with Mongul, Superman, BA, and other High Heralds and you think Apoc can stop them? Nano-tech you say? Apoc has technopathy.

And Apoc is stronger than Hulk, at regular size, and he can atleast become a 100 feet tall, so...

Alan uses his ring to construct a hammock and kicks back, sipping a pina colada while Hal takes out Apocalypse.

Honestly, Apoc has no chance again both of them. He doesn't beat them one on one either.

Team wins.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
They don't have as much willpower as Apoc has. Not even close. Their very ability is based on willpower........without it they'd both be completely powerless, and they're obviously far far from it.

either GL FTW.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Either of the team solo.

And team stomps.

You have two of the best Earth GLs working together.

This does not bode well for Apocalypse.

bump

Alan Scott and Hal Jordan

Team.

Apocalypse takes X-Factor, the Inhumans, (Black Bolt!) Askani/Rachael Summers, and Charlotte Jones w/big tech gun- hitting him with everything they had to no effect, he waded through it.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers4.png

Apocalypse takes a full telekinetic blast from Exodus with no effect, and blasts Exodus away. Apocalypse also creates a force field able to hold and even pre-powerdown Exodus.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1774/exodusorigin13kw0.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers18.png

Apocalypse destroys Invisible Woman's force field with a single blast.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers7.png

Apocalypse sucks Cyclops bone dry of energy. Possibly a ring?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers6.png

Apocalypse snaps his fingers to cause energy explosions. Good for popping heads.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powe41.png

He can also read minds so he'll know what they would do next and try to out manuevre

Although I believe two GLs is too much we need a better writer for Poccy.

Alan Scott handles this on his own

Originally posted by iceman24567
Alan Scott handles this on his own

Where the **** you've been?!

LOL at the Blackblot vs Apoc fight from years ago from a X-factor comic.

Its funny how some people use it as reference.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Where the **** you've been?! My computer crashed then my laptop crashed and my Iphone battery lost all its juice paid some high school kid to fix my shit 60 dollars damn shame

how is this still open GLs for the stomp

Not sure why people place Apoc so high on the totem pole

Originally posted by iceman24567
Not sure why people place Apoc so high on the totem pole

His fanboys.

Team 9/10.

Alan Scott Would Destroy Apoc imo and hal could sit back and chat it up with the x-men

Originally posted by iceman24567
My computer crashed then my laptop crashed and my Iphone battery lost all its juice paid some high school kid to fix my shit 60 dollars damn shame
Welcome back.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Not sure why people place Apoc so high on the totem pole Obsessed with the whole "non-jobbing/PIS" BS to make him more of a forum threat.

He is high-herald, there is no denying that. Unless you are one of them many apoc haters.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Obsessed with the whole "non-jobbing/PIS" BS to make him more of a forum threat.
Even taking away the jobbing dimension there's nothing in Apoc's powerset that unambiguously puts him on the level of trans-tiers/low skyfathers like Thanos.