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The Flash vS Wonder Woman

Wonder Woman. Flash is faster, but WW's no slouch in speed herself. WW can take ALOT. And she'd eventually tag him with one good punch and he's out of it.

I don't see how he could really hurt WW.

Can't flash by running around in circles really quickly create a pretty powerful vacuum?
ps: I also remember in one of the JL episodes he starts running around Superman (from another dimension but as strong as our superman), grabs his hand, keeps running in circles and lets go of his hand tossing Supes through a building....not that it hurt him or anything, but was nicely done.

ps: i also think ww wins

~wickerman~

www.silver-surfer.us/Top10list/Top10List.htm

There you go. WW wins.

Would WW be able to take a hit from Flash going 10x faster than the speed of sound?

Knocking her half way across the country? Flash did that to Grod, just to knock him out. I dont think shes ever been hit like that.

Flash does have super healing, but i dont think he could take a good clean hit from WW.

cant he just blast WW with energy from the speed force

Originally posted by gautam
cant he just blast WW with energy from the speed force

Ive never seen Flash do that. I dont even know if he can. I could be wrong.

guys its abvious WW takes it....one "flash" of her "upper part of the body" ...and the flash is unconscious for atleast a few days.....

Id buy that for a dollar.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Would WW be able to take a hit from Flash going 10x faster than the speed of sound?

Knocking her half way across the country? Flash did that to Grod, just to knock him out. I dont think shes ever been hit like that.

Flash does have super healing, but i dont think he could take a good clean hit from WW.

Actually Zoom did that WW recently. He hit her at the speed of light. 6 times. She was hit from Boston to Paris then to Egypt than to China than finally all the way to Themyscira located around the Carolinas. Diana was making jokes the whole time. She won by the way.

Originally posted by Draco69
Actually Zoom did that WW recently. He hit her at the speed of light. 6 times. She was hit from Boston to Paris then to Egypt than to China than finally all the way to Themyscira located around the Carolinas. Diana was making jokes the whole time. She won by the way.

woo hoo! no airplane ticket!!!

btw: where is this in?

~wickerman~

Bump for Carv. This thread is truly from the golden age of KMC.

And yes, speed was referenced here ..

https://i.ibb.co/2WN2KPz/comic-excerpt-blind-wonder-woman-vs-the-justice-league-v0-p0znhm7y63tc1.png

What happened in the next scan?

This is what happened before that. Also, Batman showed up and tried to sneak attack her and got wrecked...

https://i.ibb.co/FKmvHHj/comic-excerpt-blind-wonder-woman-vs-the-justice-league-v0-y9ju2n7y63tc1.png

No I asked AFTER. Not before. Are you stupid?

But just to be clear: you're using someone tagging someone else as proof that they're fast, right?

I trust you see where this is leading lmao.

I'm using a scan where SPEED was mentioned and a comparison of SPEED was mentioned as well and Wonder Woman defeated said speed person. Huge difference

Originally posted by carver9
I'm using a scan where SPEED was mentioned and a comparison of SPEED was mentioned as well and Wonder Woman defeated said speed person. Huge difference

Yes but it's the same comic, same issue, same everything, when Batman jumps in and slams her head, hurting her despite her supposed ability to detect air pressure movements.

Or is it PIS in one page, then in the one before the plot isn't stupid? Let me know. This is very confusing to me, the argument about whether the plot is inducing stupidity seems to change from panel to panel.
Didn't you argue before that slower characters tag faster characters due to Pis before (which I agree on)?

Anything else? How about when he's casually jogging backwards?

Talking about this?

https://i.ibb.co/r0z7RSk/comic-excerpt-blind-wonder-woman-vs-the-justice-league-v0-ge74mo7y63tc1.png

She could've snapped that neck right there.

Batman literally says he picks his moments lmao. He allowed it.

Next scene, please? We can slowly spoon feed you if you want.

He picks his moments to die, lol?

He knew he wasn't going to die as it was a training exercise - are you honestly this dumb on purpose?

Also, need I show how an amped WW who is out to kill performs against an injured Batman without his suit oh wait you're right.

So it's a training exercise and WW could have killed him if she wasn't toying around? Like I said, the post I mentioned was in reference to speed, something that was stated on panel when she was fighting Flash who obviously didn't want to get kicked in the face twice.

Originally posted by carver9
So it's a training exercise and WW could have killed him if she wasn't toying around? Like I said, the post I mentioned was in reference to speed, something that was stated on panel when she was fighting Flash who obviously didn't want to get kicked in the face twice.

Nope she couldn't have. As Batman would not have allowed it. Pretty simple, really.

When she WAS trying to kill him, no toying around, no exercise.....she failed to do so. Failed to even KO him. Failed to lasso him up, cut his head off, all of that.

And in the same scene, Batman still out reacted her and actually hurt her. Imagine if instead of human level strength, she was hit with....an IMP in her ear. Or Zod level strength (wait whoops wrong thread). Ok, just an IMP.

Or a speed steal. Or he attacks her with time shenanigans.

We could always BZ this, then we can scan dump lmao.

In the same comic I posted above? Show me the pages where she tried to kill Batman. Also, the rest of your post is just made up gibberish

Originally posted by carver9
In the same comic I posted above? Show me the pages where she tried to kill Batman. Also, the rest of your post is just made up gibberish

You not seen her Jokerised or Eclipsoed?

Is it made up that he hurt her?

Made up that he can speed steal? Imp?

So it's not in the same comic? You're just referencing other comics, and then mind controlled scenes? Gotcha.

Originally posted by carver9
So it's not in the same comic? You're just referencing other comics, and then mind controlled scenes? Gotcha.

Uh no? He hurt her in the same comic lmao. She was unable to react to him and stop him.

Show me

https://i.imgur.com/yGX2PpX.jpeg

Edit: this was the very next page. Batman jumps in, WW knows it's him, grabs him by the throat, and he says 'I pick my moments'.

Then smashes her head, hurting her.

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/RCO011.jpg

Originally posted by TGATES
https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/RCO011.jpg

Didn't take long for low showings eh?

Steve Trevor took the vaunted Cheetah out.

Steve's cock made Diana squirt

Originally posted by TGATES
https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/RCO011.jpg
How the phuck is that possible? Even using 'comic logic'? Man, I'm so sick of street level bullsh|t from both companies. Trying to make characters that are out of their league by many tiers relevant by doing stupid sh|t like this.

Back on topic, Flash murders Diana if he's serious.

But at least the art is great

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_super/11140/111406694/7547218-0121658991-batma.jpg

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fufg8ptb95rn31.png

Batman tags Zoom in superspeed and surprises him by stabbing him in the foot.

Originally posted by zopzop
How the phuck is that possible? Even using 'comic logic'? Man, I'm so sick of street level bullsh|t from both companies. Trying to make characters that are out of their league by many tiers relevant by doing stupid sh|t like this.

Back on topic, Flash murders Diana if he's serious.

Flashes were mind-controlled.

Also, this is still better than them being devoured alive by dumb gorillas or powerless z-list villains wearing pyjamas and carrying toys as weapons.

Yeah Tgates has no idea what I'm arguing, lol.

I'm saying PIS exists. Like that showing of WW tagging Flash is PIS. It was for the plot.

All I know is, when you look at the entirety of the Flashes, Kryptonians, etc... their combat speed is trash. The only way their speed is impressive is when you separate their combat showings from the cheesy fts. Outside of that, I'm more impressed with people like Spiderman.

Originally posted by carver9
All I know is, when you look at the entirety of the Flashes, Kryptonians, etc... their combat speed is trash. The only way their speed is impressive is when you separate their combat showings from the cheesy fts. Outside of that, I'm more impressed with people like Spiderman.

Wait wait wait.

NOW you're ignoring feats and focussing solely on fights? Didn't take long lmao to break you. What about Mongul Vs WW?

Did you read the comic I posted above, Carv?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
https://i.imgur.com/yGX2PpX.jpeg

Edit: this was the very next page. Batman jumps in, WW knows it's him, grabs him by the throat, and he says 'I pick my moments'.

Then smashes her head, hurting her.

I don't know what you expected WW to do here. She obviously left herself open for this attack.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't know what you expected WW to do here. She obviously left herself open for this attack.

Yup. He picks his moments. Batman let himself be grabbed so that he could get in close, then smacked her. She couldn't react in time (maybe Batman moves faster than air? Lmao) and got smacked in the ears. Imagine her getting hit by Kryptonian level strength, she'd be jelly. Or an IMP.


As for what I expected, I don't know.....to use her strength and speed to flick him away with her pinky the instant she didn't want to get hurt?

But tell me the true-true: have you ever read the comic? Don't be shy now.

Originally posted by carver9
And yes, speed was referenced here ..


I think this thread perfectly encapsulates the evolution of comic forums.

Stage 1 - the original thread. Random posters with little/no knowledge posting their personal opinions and half-remembered anecdotes and personal bias.

Stage 2 - where Carver and people who think they are knowledgeable posters are, the Respect Thread stage. They read a respect thread, cherrypick a scan or two, then pass it off as knowledge.

Stage 3 - where posters like qwerty are at, with the growth of comic hosting sites where anyone can get any comic to refute arguments.

So the scan Carver posted is used as a great example of WW's speed by her fans. 'Oh look, the Flash is tagged by WW, she MUST be fast! Lemme post this in her Respect Thread for all to see!.

People who can call the comic up, though?

https://i.postimg.cc/xjtKvRQn/Holding-Back.png
Everyone was holding back on her, except Batman, lmao, who was the only one to actually try to win the fight, whilst everyone else fought her like a friend.

So to recap, this 'amazing' speed feat of WW is:
1. tagging a holding back Flash who is trying not to hurt her.
2. the only one who isn't holding back and who wants to hurt her, the human dude, actually hurts her when he tries to lol.
3. the big test at the end of the fight is....a normal gun being fired at her.

I mean, this 'test' is something Cap or Spidey would laugh at, hell it would be a test for Punisher or Nightwing, let alone a herald tier martial artist who supposedly has FTL reactions. Which is why it is hilarious that its used as proof in this thread.

Carver, hello!

It's funny to note that we had this exchange 7 years ago:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85


I was waiting for these scans.

Here, WW realises that they are mollycoddling her:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/14/144096/3769119-3570542397-35517.jpg

And once again....Batman saves the day. So apparently she can 'adapt to Wally's speed' and 'sense air pressure'....but not Batman, lol.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/14/144096/3769122-1208674650-35517.jpg

So IF we take this fight as gospel.....if a punch from the human level Batman pretty much incapacitates her, what would one IMP do???
.

Carver, how long does it take you to understand things?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yup. He picks his moments. Batman let himself be grabbed so that he could get in close, then smacked her. She couldn't react in time (maybe Batman moves faster than air? Lmao) and got smacked in the ears. Imagine her getting hit by Kryptonian level strength, she'd be jelly. Or an IMP.


As for what I expected, I don't know.....to use her strength and speed to flick him away with her pinky the instant she didn't want to get hurt?

But tell me the true-true: have you ever read the comic? Don't be shy now.

Could she have killed him when she grabbed him, yes or no?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think this thread perfectly encapsulates the evolution of comic forums.

Stage 1 - the original thread. Random posters with little/no knowledge posting their personal opinions and half-remembered anecdotes and personal bias.

Stage 2 - where Carver and people who think they are knowledgeable posters are, the Respect Thread stage. They read a respect thread, cherrypick a scan or two, then pass it off as knowledge.

Stage 3 - where posters like qwerty are at, with the growth of comic hosting sites where anyone can get any comic to refute arguments.

So the scan Carver posted is used as a great example of WW's speed by her fans. 'Oh look, the Flash is tagged by WW, she MUST be fast! Lemme post this in her Respect Thread for all to see!.

People who can call the comic up, though?

https://i.postimg.cc/xjtKvRQn/Holding-Back.png
Everyone was holding back on her, except Batman, lmao, who was the only one to actually try to win the fight, whilst everyone else fought her like a friend.

So to recap, this 'amazing' speed feat of WW is:
1. tagging a holding back Flash who is trying not to hurt her.
2. the only one who isn't holding back and who wants to hurt her, the human dude, actually hurts her when he tries to lol.
3. the big test at the end of the fight is....a normal gun being fired at her.

I mean, this 'test' is something Cap or Spidey would laugh at, hell it would be a test for Punisher or Nightwing, let alone a herald tier martial artist who supposedly has FTL reactions. Which is why it is hilarious that its used as proof in this thread.

She felt like they were holding back because they were getting wrecked. They never said they were holding back.

Originally posted by carver9
Could she have killed him when she grabbed him, yes or no?

No. Had Batman been in actual danger, he wouldn't have allowed himself to get into that situation.
Originally posted by carver9
She felt like they were holding back because they were getting wrecked. They never said they were holding back.

Proof of this? Do you think this was Flash at Full Capacity, above the speed of sound?

You don't know if Batman would've gotten tagged or not. He knew she wouldn't kill him, period.

Yes, that's full capacity Flash.

Originally posted by carver9
You don't know if Batman would've gotten tagged or not. He knew she wouldn't kill him, period.

Yes, that's full capacity Flash.

Proof, please.

Proof that she's holding back?

Originally posted by carver9
Proof that she's holding back?

Is English your fifth language or something?

Prove it's Full Capacity Flash.

Originally posted by carver9
And yes, speed was referenced here ..

https://i.ibb.co/2WN2KPz/comic-excerpt-blind-wonder-woman-vs-the-justice-league-v0-p0znhm7y63tc1.png

Here. Batman would've said Flash was holding back his speed. Nothing was mentioned. The proof is on you to show he was holding back his speed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85


https://i.postimg.cc/xjtKvRQn/Holding-Back.png


They're not real people, lmao. The writer is clear on this - WW is written as recognising that he's holding back

What speed is Flash going here, if at full capacity? Is this him being faster than death, or when they needed to slow footage down of him down to a trillion frames per second, or when he was operating at nanosecond/attosecond levels? Proof?

Your new argument is pretty stupid, as it argues that Batman is faster than a Full Capacity Flash.

Or maybe it's not. One never knows about you, tbh.

Still no proof that Flash is going all-out? As WW said, she KNEW the answer - everyone held back and weren't trying to hurt her, except for the human who did try. And succeeded.

Great scan Any other times they interacted?

Carver, hello!

Originally posted by carver9
H'el moved so fast that he went from Metropolis to Supergirl sanctuary in the middle of the Atlantic and grabbed Superboy before Superman even realized he left and came back. The words are there for you to know it's a speed ft, lol..

Originally posted by carver9
Here's your answer. Wasn't difficult to find at all and this is low balling the showing since Superman himself couldn't see or detect his movement.

Mmmm so speed of light when travelling is = punching speed, eh?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I noted no-one posted awesome feats for Flash and Invisible Woman. How dare you all.

Why villains fear Central City, how Flash can casually cross dimensions and time (basically impossible to dimensionally/time BFR him whilst he can casually dump his opponent in any time/dimension he wants) and one of his more insane feats - casually running 200 miles in 3 microseconds:

https://i.postimg.cc/qNJ1Kh9D/04.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/BLKp3xKb/05.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/SJ7Zj7tz/09.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/GBNK6M96/10.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/DWm5jVfq/11.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/3ktnFrh8/34.jpg

200 miles in 3 microseconds is nearly 360 times the speed of light. And he did it casually, without breaking a sweat, whilst full of pasta, lmao.

Flash punches WW at 360 times the speed of light (and we KNOW he is running here lmao), and can do it casually without breaking a sweat.

Full Capacity? Going all out? Damn, Flash would atomise her.

We've already seen Wonder Woman tag Flash with ease, so I don't see why that would change here. She's fast enough to do it. Also, it looks like Flash is running inside of his portal.

Originally posted by carver9
We've already seen Wonder Woman tag Flash with ease, so I don't see why that would change here. She's fast enough to do it. Also, it looks like Flash is running inside of his portal.

Yes when he was going easy on her. Another time was when he had his knowledge of how to use his powers erased. Another time was when he was mind controlled to become predictable.

Got anything else?

Also, reread the scans lmao.

Originally posted by carver9
We've already seen Wonder Woman tag Flash with ease, so I don't see why that would change here. She's fast enough to do it. Also, it looks like Flash is running inside of his portal.
When did she tag a flash who was actually fighting her?

Carver, hello!

Hello, Carver!

Whyre you saying hello? We've already came to the conclusion that WW stomps.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes when he was going easy on her. Another time was when he had his knowledge of how to use his powers erased. Another time was when he was mind controlled to become predictable.

Got anything else?

Also, reread the scans lmao.

Where has WW ever fought a serious Flash? He's not running into a portal, but even if he was, what does it matter lol - he's still running at 360x lightspeed casually.

She caught a Flash that couldn't slow down which is enough for me and is proof that she can react to him. Remember, he couldn't slow down.

Originally posted by carver9
She caught a Flash that couldn't slow down which is enough for me and is proof that she can react to him. Remember, he couldn't slow down.

But he wasn't trying to fight her?

If Mike Tyson is running around me at top speed, am pretty sure I can lasso him if he's not trying to fight me.

Doesn't mean I can do shit against him in the ring lol.

Mike Tyson is a human, of course you could lasso him. If a Cheetah was moving at top speeds, you would not be able to lasso it.

I would, especially if it wasn't trying to fight me.

You wouldn't.

A mind controlled, slower Flash was beating her ass until Captain Cold saved her lol

She was probably holding back. Show me.

Flash was holding back in your scan yet you used it, Carv. WW said explicitly that he just appears as an indistinct blur to her.

He wasn't holding back. He was exhausted and admitted he couldn't slow down.

Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't holding back. He was exhausted and admitted he couldn't slow down.

Oh so she tagged an exhausted Flash? Gotcha

He wasn't fighting her either so.....

But he also couldn't slow down either. We've seen Flash move so fast that it resulted in a negative impact. Just because he was feeling it, doesn't mean he was moving any slower. If anything, it means he was moving at optimal speeds.

Originally posted by carver9
But he also couldn't slow down either. We've seen Flash move so fast that it resulted in a negative impact. Just because he was feeling it, doesn't mean he was moving any slower. If anything, it means he was moving at optimal speeds.

So exhausted Flash who's not fighting her at all, got tagged. I see. Is that it? Considering she has outright admitted he appears as an indistinct blur to her, that's not too good is it, considering I haven't even needed to pull out any of his high end showings yet lol.

Her even being able to see and react to a Flash that was moving at optimal speeds again is proof of this. You've been denying her speed fts anyways, so why are we having this discussion.

Prove he was at optimal speeds when exhausted

Originally posted by carver9
She was probably holding back. Show me.