Mr. Negative vs. Mr. X

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http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/40/273850-4762-mister-negative_large.jpg

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Parmaniac
To soon cause of Negative's last showing.

SamZED
Exactly. Plus we really need to know if he himself has the regenearating powers he gives his warriors.
He only showed his abilities like 2-3 times in the comics and already displayed at least class 50 strength and sword speed that makes X's deflecting feat seem like not a big deal.

Aries_04
Yea but he looks really wack though.

namorsubby
I've seen Li casually block a punch from spidey with an open hand.......then knock him through a few buildings onto the ground far below........also casually

but yeah, we still don't know enough, but I'd say it's looking pretty good for Negative so far.

KingD19
Originally posted by SamZED
and already displayed at least class 50 strength

When did he do this?

Battlehammer
Oddly enough Mr. Negative was one of the few arcs of spiderman I have not read, partly due to the fact I havent regularly picked up spiderman do to money issues and that after BND his stories on average had gone way down hill. I got to remeber to pick this arc up, I read a little on mr. negative and he seems crazy. It odd that and not surprising that wiki had mr. negative with human level stats for a while if they don't currently do, dispite from the fact he shown well beyond human level stats (wiki is so unreliable at times, though they stepped it up for some characters)

namorsubby
Originally posted by KingD19
When did he do this? probably when he knocked the starch outta spidey's red and blue undies......after executing that half-ass palm block that stopped spidey's punch dead in his tracks

Battlehammer
Originally posted by KingD19
When did he do this?
I have no idea, but I heard this before as well, from one of the issue I recall he did send spiderman I believe flying throw a wall with great force from a kick or a punch showing to be very strong.

Though X is no were near that strong he shown to be quite strong himself compared to what many most likely believe him to be. I not sure were I place his strength level, but he easily deflected and blocked blows from wolverine who a class 2. Though he most likely not that strong, he strong enough to wistand pretty strong punches from a meta human who blows are back by adamatium.

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/page21.jpg

though not closes to class even 10, it still a fairly impressive strength display again wolverine above. It very nice display of his speed and over all skill, no ones been able to stay untouchable like that from wolverine, not even when spiderman went purely in spidersenses did he display such levels of untouchability (though wolverine did not touch spiderman really at all, spiderman was only able to land one hit and was dodging for his life in a crazy like stalemate)

Battlehammer
Though Mister X does not have many feats, he display ridiculous level of speed and reflexes from day one well beyond human. Here he displays one of the greatest low meta deflection feats I have ever seen and more impressively not against some cannon fodder, but the black widow who a peak-human highly trained expert in firer arms.
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/536/xfight4.th.jpg

Now some may chalk this up to his TP powers, but this would not allow him to deflect the incoming bullets he need to require to speed, like with most of his feats. He has superhuman level of speed and reflexes which are enhanced by his powers, but in the instances above displays just how truely fast his hand movement and reflexes really are.

KingD19
Yeah, he backhanded Spidey through the roof of the building they were in, then he went through 3 walls, 2 windows, and fell to the ground in the alley on the other side.

SamZED
That was more of a tap. Not even a punch And look at the result.
Sure, Spider-man was tired after fighting a few dozen immortal warriors and didn't expect that, but it doesn't change the fact that Negative is very strong.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1590/tasm621013.th.pnghttp://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9118/tasm621014.th.png


As for speed, dodges some bullets matrix style and slices the gun in two.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7184/drmn03006.th.png

As for sword skills and speed, randomly cuts several bullets in half.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7934/drmn03003.th.png

Plus there's the corrupting touch Negative can use to turn X into his slave. I think im gonna give Negative the win here. The guy is a beast. Also he pretty much owned the Hood who was possesed and amped by Dormammu, then Negative delivered some verbal pwnage and moved so fast he dissapeared out of sight of a dozen supervillains who were surrounding him, they didn't even see him move. (including speed deamon or whatever that speedster's name these days)

KingD19
I'm not doubting Li's strength/speed/agility, etc... But he hasn't shown enough to prove he's Class 50 if that, since he one-shotted Spidey whose currently Class 10-15, it shows he's stronger than that, but by how much, I don't know.

And I'm giving him the edge too, his mind may even be doing something strange and mess X up.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by SamZED
That was more of a tap. Not even a punch And look at the result.
Sure, Spider-man was tired after fighting a few dozen immortal warriors and didn't expect that, but it doesn't change the fact that Negative is very strong.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1590/tasm621013.th.pnghttp://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9118/tasm621014.th.png


As for speed, dodges some bullets matrix style and slices the gun in two.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7184/drmn03006.th.png

As for sword skills and speed, randomly cuts several bullets in half.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7934/drmn03003.th.png

Plus there's the corrupting touch Negative can use to turn X into his slave. I think im gonna give Negative the win here. The guy is a beast. Also he pretty much owned the Hood who was possesed and amped by Dormammu, then Negative delivered some verbal pwnage and moved so fast he dissapeared out of sight of a dozen supervillains who were surrounding him, they didn't even see him move. (including speed deamon or whatever that speedster's name these days)
Those are cool feats.

I not saying Negative can't do this nor he would win, but has he shown able to turn anyone into a slave? Or simply cannon fodders. I mean bloodscream can turn people he touches into instant zombies, but I have a hard time believeing or thinking he would do so in a forum match verse a non cannon fodder.

Hood though is certainly amped to some digree by Dormammu, i not sure unless you saw him actually come out to play prove that he was amped to any real level. I mean wolverien fought Hood who turned inot a crazy monster and I don't think that was even closes to Dormammu powers or even a 10th of it. Also how currently are we talking about becuase Hood to my knowledge no longer posses Dormammu, but simply magic bestowed upon him by loki.

Who were the supervillains? Also Speed demon was there? I havent seen him in ages.

jalek moye
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Those are cool feats.

I not saying Negative can't do this nor he would win, but has he shown able to turn anyone into a slave? Or simply cannon fodders. I mean bloodscream can turn people he touches into instant zombies, but I have a hard time believeing or thinking he would do so in a forum match verse a non cannon fodder.


He did it to Spider-man

Lord Feron
Originally posted by SamZED
That was more of a tap. Not even a punch And look at the result.
Sure, Spider-man was tired after fighting a few dozen immortal warriors and didn't expect that, but it doesn't change the fact that Negative is very strong.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1590/tasm621013.th.pnghttp://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9118/tasm621014.th.png


That is DAMN IMPRESSIVE!

He not only casually blocked the punch he used the same hand to extend his arm with so much force he launched spidey out of one building right through another building.

Wow.

galactusischere
Mr.Negative easily.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by jalek moye
He did it to Spider-man
really, how did spiderman break out? How does the power work?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Lord Feron
That is DAMN IMPRESSIVE!

He not only casually blocked the punch he used the same hand to extend his arm with so much force he launched spidey out of one building right through another building.

Wow.
I wonder if it not strength, but rather he posses an ability to repell, sorta like a magnet.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I wonder if it not strength, but rather he posses an ability to repell, sorta like a magnet.

No clue. Still not sure how his powers operate. But so far I like this guy.

Parmaniac
I'm also starting to like him, in the beginning I totally hated him but I think that was cause of the brand new day story etc.

KingD19
Originally posted by Battlehammer
really, how did spiderman break out? How does the power work?

Can't remember how he broke out, but Spidey said that it only worked once, and Li confirmed it.

And one of his powers is actual super strength. When he launched Spidey, Peter said he was strong. Then Li was like, you know I have super strength, but I only showed you a portion. Then he rocked him through the building.

SamZED
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Those are cool feats.

I not saying Negative can't do this nor he would win, but has he shown able to turn anyone into a slave? Or simply cannon fodders. I mean bloodscream can turn people he touches into instant zombies, but I have a hard time believeing or thinking he would do so in a forum match verse a non cannon fodder.

Hood though is certainly amped to some digree by Dormammu, i not sure unless you saw him actually come out to play prove that he was amped to any real level. I mean wolverien fought Hood who turned inot a crazy monster and I don't think that was even closes to Dormammu powers or even a 10th of it. Also how currently are we talking about becuase Hood to my knowledge no longer posses Dormammu, but simply magic bestowed upon him by loki.

Who were the supervillains? Also Speed demon was there? I havent seen him in ages. I remember the fight with Logan, I only said that he was amped because he used some powers during the fight that he doesnt normally have like teleportation.

And its not just cannon fodder, he used it on Spider-man and as far as I remember hammerhead, Spider-man only managed to break free because of the order Negative gave him - to murder his friend, other than that Parker was fully under his controle but the order was so much unlike his nature that he managed to fight the effect. I dont think that'll be the case with X, i mean killing was never a problem for him. Negative himself confirmed that the corrupting touch has never failed him before until he faced the Hood who's managed to resist because he was already corrupted by a much more powerful being.

Yeah, speed deamon was there, he's with the Hood's gang these days. Negative oredered Spider-man to defend him from the villains and corrupted Spider-man pretty much handed them their asses.

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