Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze) vs Dante

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CosmicComet
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Ghost Rider of Marvel


http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-04/art/dmc4-dante2.jpg
vs Dante of the Devil May Cry game series.


All-out, no morals.

the ninjak
GR is a beast. I don't know much about Dante.

How guilty is he of dropping innocent blood?

CosmicComet
He's solely a demon hunter.

I don't think he's ever spilled innocent blood.

Phanteros
I don't think it even matters, Ghost Rider penance can effect you has long as you hurt someone. He did it to strange I think.

BloodRain
Going to guess that GR has tangoed with people on the level of Hulk, Thor and the like?

Phanteros
Yes, he even took blows from WW Hulk without much damage being done to him. And only backed off because Hulk was innocent.

BruceSkywalker
Dante is a goner

ScreamPaste
...CC, why, man?

CosmicComet
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
...CC, why, man?

What?

ScreamPaste
Obvious spite o_o;

CosmicComet
For whom?

The only way I can see it being spite if someone argues that Zarathos comes into play here.

BloodRain
Originally posted by CosmicComet
For whom? "took blows from WW Hulk without much damage"


And something tells me that electrocution, freezing or BFR wont be all that effective here.

Nevan
make this DmC dante biscuits

chuck inglish

Lek Kuen
Penance stare killed an angel for lying to him before.

chuck inglish
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Penance stare killed an angel for lying to him before.

What is that supposed to mean? In no why shape or form does the help him here against an opponent who's physically superior

Nemesis X
What?

ScreamPaste
Physically superior to the Ghost Rider Dante is not. He's torn down sky scrapers with a swing of his chain. Not even a thing.

Hell Fire, this is nasty, it's injured the Hulk in the past and one shotted beings more powerful than Dante. I'm not sure if Zarathos was involved there, though. Penance stare might not work, but it has worked in some pretty ridiculous situations before.

Kazenji
Also with the Hellfire its a product of God's rage.

chuck inglish
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Physically superior to the Ghost Rider Dante is not. He's torn down sky scrapers with a swing of his chain. Not even a thing.

Hell Fire, this is nasty, it's injured the Hulk in the past and one shotted beings more powerful than Dante. I'm not sure if Zarathos was involved there, though. Penance stare might not work, but it has worked in some pretty ridiculous situations before.
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Dante's faster and I'm still convinced he's stronger. Show me a scan up GR tearing up a skyscraper. Oh and too bad he won't be able to hit dante with hell fire so try again

Kazenji
Originally posted by chuck inglish
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Dante's faster and I'm still convinced he's stronger. Show me a scan up GR tearing up a skyscraper.

Jeez get off your high horse Dante fanboy


and here's Ghost Rider Breaking a skyscraper with his chains and bringing it down on WWH

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Ghost%20Rider/ghostriderbreaksskyscraper.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Ghost%20Rider/ghostriderbreaksskyscraper1.jpg

ScreamPaste
You're convinced Dante's stronger than that ^? haermm

Also, it's debatable that he'd be faster either, I'm not up to par on GR's speed feats but he hangs with people on a level where high reaction time is basically required.

That aside, GR pretty much doesn't give a **** about physical damage.

chuck inglish
@Kanji
Yeah I'm a fanboy just because I'm debating the opposing side.
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"Also, it's debatable that he'd be faster either, I'm not up to par on GR's speed feats but he hangs with people on a level where high reaction time is basically required
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We don't power scale from crap like that. Otherwise we'd have a FTL Spider-Man and hulk. Anywho Dante's still faster and can deal blows that could kill GR.

Kazenji
Originally posted by chuck inglish
@Kanji
Yeah I'm a fanboy just because I'm debating the opposing side.
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Not just that, The way your hyping up Dante's abilities to be so superior.

chuck inglish
Originally posted by Kazenji
Not just that, The way your hyping up Dante's abilities to be so superior.

How am I hyping abilities.. All I've said is that dante is physcially superior

MooCowofJustice
I'm kind of confused about how Dante can avoid being hit by the hellfire. I've heard that GR has the power to make it rain fire across the planet, at full power at least. I'm sure he could manage some decent range AoE attacks with it.

ScreamPaste
I'm curious what Chuck means by saying Dante could kill GR. He's been hit by things significantly stronker than Dante. (WWH comes to mind)

chuck inglish
"I'm kind of confused about how Dante can avoid being hit by the hellfire. I've heard that GR has the power to make it rain fire across the planet, at full power at least. I'm sure he could manage some decent range AoE attacks with it."
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Dante's is calced at Mach 11(Mach 56 if we use the dmc 2 novel) I'm pretty sure he can avoid being hit by some unquantible hellfire and I haven't even mentioned QS
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"I'm curious what Chuck means by saying Dante could kill GR. He's been hit by things significantly stronker than Dante. (WWH comes to mind)"
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Dante's attacks not only harm physically but also spiritually in other words he can harm souls

ScreamPaste
Prove this, plz.

(And following that, explain why his spiritual attacks would be effective against someone Dr Strange is visibly frightened of)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/38229/812781-gr_super.jpg

chuck inglish

ScreamPaste

chuck inglish
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That's not at all indicative of soul attacks. By that logic any videogame character with undead enemies has soul attacks, which is not the case. It just means, as is common in fiction, magic attacks can hit certain incorporeal enemies.

You sound stupid, dante doesn't fight the undead. So what you've said doesn't make sense. let me reliterate my last post.. Dante is able to kill elecrtricity possessed by demon souls. You can't by any means damage electricity since its energy. Which means when danteis attacking the plasma he's hurting the plasma's soul. and in the other link he destroys the demon soul that has possessed the girl

MooCowofJustice
Originally posted by chuck inglish
"I'm kind of confused about how Dante can avoid being hit by the hellfire. I've heard that GR has the power to make it rain fire across the planet, at full power at least. I'm sure he could manage some decent range AoE attacks with it."
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Dante's is calced at Mach 11(Mach 56 if we use the dmc 2 novel) I'm pretty sure he can avoid being hit by some unquantible hellfire and I haven't even mentioned QS


"Mach 11" and even "Mach 56" are rather vague. They make no mention of reaction timing and, if I even believe it, are only considerable as a top speed. Top speeds tend to take time to achieve.

And this had damn well better not be that tower falling shit I've seen before.

chuck inglish
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
"Mach 11" and even "Mach 56" are rather vague. They make no mention of reaction timing and, if I even believe it, are only considerable as a top speed. Top speeds tend to take time to achieve.

And this had damn well better not be that tower falling shit I've seen before.

Combat speed mach 11 both dante and vergil are equal http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=18417

And the Mach 56 comes from the novel where dante dodges mundus's lightning which was calced at Mach 56

Robtard
Originally posted by Kazenji
Jeez get off your high horse Dante fanboy


and here's Ghost Rider Breaking a skyscraper with his chains and bringing it down on WWH

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Ghost%20Rider/ghostriderbreaksskyscraper.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Ghost%20Rider/ghostriderbreaksskyscraper1.jpg

LoL, that was a major

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5096/pwnedm.jpg

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by chuck inglish
You sound stupid, dante doesn't fight the undead. So what you've said doesn't make sense. let me reliterate my last post.. Dante is able to kill elecrtricity possessed by demon souls. You can't by any means damage electricity since its energy. Which means when danteis attacking the plasma he's hurting the plasma's soul. and in the other link he destroys the demon soul that has possessed the girl You sound stupid, the undead are a perfect stand in. What I've said does make sense becase of enemies in fiction like ghosts and flames with eyes. Let me explain why your post is wrong. Many video game characters are able to kill incorporeal enemies. This in particular;
Is pretty lulzy.

Electricity is a current of *dramatic pause* electrons. Disrupt the current, that blue plasmized air has itself a dispersion. Since Plasmas are stable they must form a closed circuit with themselves, otherwise they'd just disperse through whatever nearby had the least resistance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)#Electric_fields_and_circuits

I wonder if swinging a large piece of metal through an electrical current might disrupt it. mmm I think I know the answer.

IE, no, there's nothing here that points to Dante attacking a soul.

MooCowofJustice
Originally posted by chuck inglish
Combat speed mach 11 both dante and vergil are equal http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=18417

And the Mach 56 comes from the novel where dante dodges mundus's lightning which was calced at Mach 56

That is like, the shittiest math I have ever seen. The equation doesn't even factor in any realistic amount of time. no expression

I realize that I'm no mathematician, but the simple lack of even including any element of time in that math strikes me as ridiculous. Mach 11 from cutting six dudes five times each? Wow.

Shit, I can even see on one of the goddamn panels of the ****ing comic that some dude he sliced says "Huh?"

If that ****er actually has the time to say "Huh?" before Vergil is done, that is so far under Mach 11 it's insane. I could take a shit faster than Vergil killed those guys.

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