Katniss Everdeen Vs. Hawkeye
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Blight
Katniss from the Hunger Games Trilogy of books squares off against movie Hawkeye (from Avengers) for her district.
Match 1: Both are dropped into the arena from the first book. Wilderness with the occasional fireball, Tracker Jacked and mutated dogs with human faces.
Match 2: Both are dropped into the clockwork island world of the second book's arena.
To make katniss survive long enough for a possible win they start at opposite ends of the arenas and each has a bow.
MooCowofJustice
I'm gonna bet on the guy with superhuman senses and accuracy.
But then again, I don't really know anything about Hunger Games.
BruceSkywalker
Agent Barton x 2
juggerman
Spite against Catnip
Blight
Has movie Barton exhibited anything to indicate enhanced senses in the movie?
MooCowofJustice
He stated he observes better from way up high his first appearance. And later is used to scout out patterns of the invading alien forces by simply placing him on a building.
He also, literally, never missed a single shot in that whole movie. Even fired one arrow backwards without even looking where it was going.
juggerman
Didn't he miss Black Widow when they fought?
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by juggerman
Didn't he miss Black Widow when they fought?
he loss to black widow.. however Katniss doesn't have black widow's fighting abilities
KingD19
He shot an arrow precisely onto the Hellicarrier's engines from another aircraft.
He also shot Loki while he was on one of those chariot's.
Guy's aim is ridiculous.
AmbientFire
And he has a USB-arrow.
AmbientFire
I don't know but it feels like Katniss is a young woman with amazing archery skills and Hawkeye is an archer-type superhero. Take away his powers and he doesn't have a whole lot to offer. Take away Katniss' powers (archery) and she's still the same character - in other words, fighting is the one thing Hawkeye does, and he kind of has to do it better than Katniss. He's a superhero with arrows. Without it, he's not really a character at all - he HAS to win.
Also, he can twirl in the air and shoot arrows in a way that makes trailers look good.
AuraAngel
Originally posted by Blight
To make katniss survive long enough for a possible win they start at opposite ends of the arenas and each has a bow.
Well since they only have bows it'll come down to H2H. So Hawkeye pwns.
marwash22
Originally posted by AmbientFire
I don't know but it feels like Katniss is a young woman with amazing archery skills and Hawkeye is an archer-type superhero. Take away his powers and he doesn't have a whole lot to offer. Take away Katniss' powers (archery) and she's still the same character - in other words, fighting is the one thing Hawkeye does, and he kind of has to do it better than Katniss. He's a superhero with arrows. Without it, he's not really a character at all - he HAS to win.
Also, he can twirl in the air and shoot arrows in a way that makes trailers look good. bermm
wut?
AmbientFire
Originally posted by marwash22
bermm
wut?
Wut wut?
Lord Lucien
Wut do you mean 'wut'?
Nemesis X
Originally posted by AmbientFire
I don't know but it feels like Katniss is a young woman with amazing archery skills and Hawkeye is an archer-type superhero. Take away his powers and he doesn't have a whole lot to offer. Take away Katniss' powers (archery) and she's still the same character - in other words, fighting is the one thing Hawkeye does, and he kind of has to do it better than Katniss. He's a superhero with arrows. Without it, he's not really a character at all - he HAS to win.
Also, he can twirl in the air and shoot arrows in a way that makes trailers look good.
Originally posted by marwash22
bermm
wut?
Tzeentch._
Originally posted by AmbientFire
I don't know but it feels like Katniss is a young woman with amazing archery skills and Hawkeye is an archer-type superhero. Take away his powers and he doesn't have a whole lot to offer. Take away Katniss' powers (archery) and she's still the same character - in other words, fighting is the one thing Hawkeye does, and he kind of has to do it better than Katniss. He's a superhero with arrows. Without it, he's not really a character at all - he HAS to win.
Also, he can twirl in the air and shoot arrows in a way that makes trailers look good. Are you an attractive white woman, by any chance?
KingD19
What type of characters they are doesn't matter. What matters is the skills they showed, and Hawkeye is dozens of leagues out of Katniss' range.
Blight
But does he have what it takes to go for days in the forrest??
MooCowofJustice
Movie Hawkeye is a trained assassin. I think he could handle some hunting, whether it's animals or people like he's used to.
ScreamPaste
If this is set up like the Hunger Games he won't have to. They start close to one another, if they're dropped a long way away from one another, that gives Katniss a small edge, but even in the book she needed help from sponsors to survive on her own for very long.
KingD19
He's not only a highly trained SHIELD agent, he's like MooCow said an assassin, and he and Widow talked about several missions they'd gone on together. He can handle a bit of forest; certainly better than a 17 year old with only a few weeks/months of training.
Tzeentch._
After hearing everyones' arguments, I'm convinced that Katniss stomps.
KingD19
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
After hearing everyones' arguments, I'm convinced that Katniss stomps.
Is stomping considered a forfeit? Because if it's not, while she's stomping she gets an explosive arrow in the gut.
Tzeentch._
So the best Hawkeye can hope for is a tie? I could see that.
KingD19
Either you're a troll, or you're in denial, or you're just that slow.
Either way, Hawkeye 20/10 (That means he wins every round)
Lord Lucien
I don't think many people here have seen The Hunger Games. Katniss hit the centre of that target, there's no way Hawkeye can survive that.
KingD19
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I don't think many people here have seen The Hunger Games. Katniss hit the centre of that target, there's no way Hawkeye can survive that.
Oh wow...the center? Well sh*t...that's egg on my face.
the ninjak
Hawkeye shoots the USB arrow into Katniss' ear and downloads a virus into her brain.
Turning her into a sexbot. She slowly starts to strip.....
Tzeentch._
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I don't think many people here have seen The Hunger Games. Katniss hit the centre of that target, there's no way Hawkeye can survive that. Exactly.
These Marvel fanboys need to gtfo
AmbientFire
No my point in a circumspect way was that all Hawkeye knows how to do is kick ass and he does it really well - because he fills no other function. Easy win for Hawkeye.
Q99
Originally posted by juggerman
Didn't he miss Black Widow when they fought?
Because they were in close range and BW was able to dodge/redirect the bow's aim.
Blight
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If this is set up like the Hunger Games he won't have to. They start close to one another, if they're dropped a long way away from one another, that gives Katniss a small edge, but even in the book she needed help from sponsors to survive on her own for very long. Read the OP
Also he doesn't have USB arrows. He's given the same arrows as Catniss. Although technically in the OP I didn't say arrows at all

juggerman
Originally posted by Blight
Read the OP
Also he doesn't have USB arrows. He's given the same arrows as Catniss. Although technically in the OP I didn't say arrows at all
Well in that case Hawkeye has showed more skill using a bow as a weapon
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by KingD19
Either you're a troll, or you're in denial, or you're just that slow.
Either way, Hawkeye 20/10 (That means he wins every round)
its more like Clint stomps 100/10
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I don't think many people here have seen The Hunger Games. Katniss hit the centre of that target, there's no way Hawkeye can survive that.
wrong, I have seen the hunger games, also liked it a lot, have the blu ray.. Katniss loses, that is a good feat, however Hawkeye showed vastly superior skills with his bow and arrows than she did
Blight
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
its more like Clint stomps 100/10
wrong, I have seen the hunger games, also liked it a lot, have the blu ray.. Katniss loses, that is a good feat, however Hawkeye showed vastly superior skills with his bow and arrows than she did
Book, not movie

KingD19
Originally posted by Blight
Book, not movie
Well let's use the book's Hawkeye's appeared in. Katniss loses even worse now.
Robtard
LoL, Hawkeye without his special bow and his laser-pointy-thing and in an environment he's never fought in. Is this an intentional spite-thread, or just a blunder?
Hawkeye loses here to Katniss (aka The Silent Death In The Forest) 10 of 10.
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Blight
Book, not movie
haven't read any of the hunger games books, might though
Blight
Originally posted by KingD19
Well let's use the book's Hawkeye's appeared in. Katniss loses even worse now. If we did that it would be against the rules of this forum...
Moron. ermm13
Pwned
Ahhh.... No. I've read the books, and she didn't really do much that was very impressive. The only reason she survived 1 was because she had people trying to keep her alive, and in 2 she had a group of people trying to keep her alive. Same with 3.
Really, she won't win. Hawkeye can still shoot her much quicker than she can shoot him, and he can shoot more accurately.
the ninjak
Originally posted by Pwned
Ahhh.... No. I've read the books, and she didn't really do much that was very impressive. The only reason she survived 1 was because she had people trying to keep her alive, and in 2 she had a group of people trying to keep her alive. Same with 3.
Really, she won't win. Hawkeye can still shoot her much quicker than she can shoot him, and he can shoot more accurately.
As if there was ever any doubt amongst non-hungergames fans.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Pwned
Ahhh.... No. I've read the books, and she didn't really do much that was very impressive. The only reason she survived 1 was because she had people trying to keep her alive, and in 2 she had a group of people trying to keep her alive. Same with 3.
Really, she won't win. Hawkeye can still shoot her much quicker than she can shoot him, and he can shoot more accurately. She shot the centre of a target! How much more proof do you need that she can defeat anyone?
Robtard
She hit the center with 100% accuracy.
XanatosForever
Only after no one was looking at her. Katniss gets stage fright, and her shot goes wild, letting Hawkeye put one in her eye.
ScreamPaste
If Hawkeye holds an apple her ability to make impossible shots goes up, give him an apple.
XanatosForever
Not if Clint's staring right at her. That stage fright is killer, literally in this case.

ScreamPaste
nope.jpg! The apple shot was specifically designed to make the judges look at her! Stagefright -1!
Any important, apple related shot is unmissable for Katnip. Remember when she shot a bag of apples to explode the career kids' food?
KingD19
Remember when Hawkeye shot Loki while he was moving at least 75-80 mph? With pinpoint accuracy?
XanatosForever
Yeah, but see, she made that shot after the judges were turned away. They didn't see her raise the bow, pull the string taut, or anything like that. If she'd tried that while they were watching, among being freaked out she aimed an arrow at them, she would've missed. Stagefright +1
She wasn't that hot a shot with the bag, either. It took her two arrow to get it open.
ScreamPaste
Ever tried to open a bag with an arrow? Usually just pokes a hole.
BruceSkywalker
also wasn't Hawkeye dead eye accurate??
AmbientFire
The USB arrow is relevant if shooting bags goes toward estimating Katniss' skill. Hawkeye shot an arrow with the amount of force/pull required to hit a target without damaging the components within the USB-arrow, but without completely messing up the trajectory of the shot. That requires some sensitivity and skill with the bow, I figure. In the movie, they also mention that Hawkeye has been on other missions, so I infer that he has tactical training as well (on top of the fact that he is a Shield Operative).
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by AmbientFire
The USB arrow is relevant if shooting bags goes toward estimating Katniss' skill. Hawkeye shot an arrow with the amount of force/pull required to hit a target without damaging the components within the USB-arrow, but without completely messing up the trajectory of the shot. That requires some sensitivity and skill with the bow, I figure. In the movie, they also mention that Hawkeye has been on other missions, so I infer that he has tactical training as well (on top of the fact that he is a Shield Operative). I don't think you understand... Katniss hit the f*cking centre of the target--that is literally perfection. Hawkeye's screwed.
the ninjak
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I don't think you understand... Katniss hit the f*cking centre of the target--that is literally perfection. Hawkeye's screwed.
No he ain't. Clint dodged lasers skimming past his head. He can dodge an arrow form Katniss.
Hawkeye as proven in the film can climb and snipe from safe positions.
He also has an advantage over Everdeen in the fact that he has battled militia with his skills in the past.
Katniss needed help in the Hunger Games. HE would've won the games without any help.
He fought Black Widow in melee combat. He lost, but she is simply superior in close range combat.
Katniss has no feats but shooting an apple and a target. Feats HE does in his spare time considering he hits moving targets Olympic level athletes can only pray they could do.
Katniss is a human level archer. Clint is superhuman. And HG supporters need to deal with it.
Tzeentch._
Haweye got his ass kicked in by Black Widow. I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that he'd stand a chance against Katniss.
the ninjak
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Haweye got his ass kicked in by Black Widow. I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that he'd stand a chance against Katniss.
You trolling.

You have to be!
Are you saying Katniss would defeat Black Widow under the same situation?
Pwned
Ninjak, I think you are misinterpreting the sarcasm here.

Lestov16
Is Katniss hitting the target better than Hawkeye calculating and hitting a moving target without looking with utter ease?
Also you guys are seriously underestimating Hawk's hit to Loki. You want to talk about dead center? Hawkeye had it intently heading directly for Loki's eye. While Loki was moving. Loki only caught it due to superhuman reflexes, which Katniss doesn't have. Also again, he did it without effort.
XanatosForever
Lies. He had to take time to line up the shot. That's effort.
Blight
He couldn't hit Loki who caught his arrow, he lost to Black Widow. He was simply defeated by Loki touching him with a staff. Katniss stomps.
ScreamPaste
Katniss touches him with a stick and he serves her unquestioningly!
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Katniss touches him with a stick and he serves her unquestioningly!
lol.. she did no such thing.. lolol
the ninjak
Originally posted by Pwned
Ninjak, I think you are misinterpreting the sarcasm here.
I'm terrible at reading sarcasm in print form.

Kazenji
Don't know why people bother with it over the net
doesn't translate well.
ScreamPaste
Originally posted by Kazenji
Don't know why people bother with it over the net
doesn't translate well. I don't generally find that to be a problem, honestly. I have a really easy time getting sarcasm in text form, not sure why.
Pwned
Originally posted by the ninjak
I'm terrible at reading sarcasm in print form.

As am I.
We should start a club......
Blight
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Katniss touches him with a stick and he serves her unquestioningly!
crylaugh0
Hawkeye wouldn't even shoot Thor without orders. This thread doesn't specify he has orders to beat Katniss
She stomps.
Mr. Tibbs
This is silly, Hawkeye rapes her hard.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Lestov16
Is Katniss hitting the target better than Hawkeye calculating and hitting a moving target without looking with utter ease?
Also you guys are seriously underestimating Hawk's hit to Loki. You want to talk about dead center? Hawkeye had it intently heading directly for Loki's eye. While Loki was moving. Loki only caught it due to superhuman reflexes, which Katniss doesn't have. Also again, he did it without effort. When did Hawkeye hit the centre of anything? If he had hit the bulls eye of a moving target, he'd have the win. But I don't remember him shooting any targets in Avengers.
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
When did Hawkeye hit the centre of anything? If he had hit the bulls eye of a moving target, he'd have the win. But I don't remember him shooting any targets in Avengers.
hawkeye hardly ever missed.. he was consistently dead on.. katniss missed a few times especially up close
Mr. Tibbs
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
When did Hawkeye hit the centre of anything? If he had hit the bulls eye of a moving target, he'd have the win. But I don't remember him shooting any targets in Avengers. He was bullseyeing moving alien craft without even looking at them.
Lord Lucien
Those alien crafts didn't have a target on them. Hence: he hit no target. He super failed. Katniss pwns.
Mr. Tibbs
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Those alien crafts didn't have a target on them. Hence: he hit no target. He super failed. Katniss pwns. The alien craft were the target. Hawkeye pushes her doodoo in.
Blight
Please. When Hawkeye gets touched by a stick he automatically loses. He couldn't even shoot Thor because he liked him in Thor. He would like Katniss way too much.
Mr. Tibbs
I seem to remember Katniss missing that one chick from five feet away...........
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
I seem to remember Katniss missing that one chick from five feet away........... She was transfixed by her underage lesbian powers. Seriously, did you even watch these movies?
NemeBro
You guys are stupid.
Blight
Stanley Tucci > Everyone who has ever existed.
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
I seem to remember Katniss missing that one chick from five feet away...........
she did, while hawkeye was dead on accurate
Mr. Tibbs
Originally posted by NemeBro
You guys are stupid. Yeah but we all have very nice teeth.
the ninjak
Originally posted by NemeBro
You guys are stupid.
Yeah but I have a huge schlong so I balance out.
Lord Lucien
I have nice teeth and a huge schlong, thus Katniss>>Hawkeye. Also Me>>Hawkeye. But Katniss>>Me
the ninjak
I've got great hair a huge schlong and a ninja. Hawkeye wins.
Mr. Tibbs
Legolas vs Hawkeye?
Blight
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Legolas vs Hawkeye? Katniss wins that, too.
Robtard
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
I seem to remember Katniss missing that one chick from five feet away...........
That was on purpose.
Mr. Tibbs
Originally posted by Robtard
That was on purpose. Because she wanted to lesbo embrace her?
Robtard
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Because she wanted to lesbo embrace her?
Um, dude, the proper nomenclature is "scissoring".
KingD19
"Tribbing" or "Tribadism" is also acceptable
Robtard
Originally posted by KingD19
"Tribbing" or "Tribadism" is also acceptable
The whole "Native American" thing stopped being edgy back in the late 90's, dude.
Lord Lucien
Scissor-me-timbers, backward tribbing is all the rage among dykes these days.
Mr. Tibbs
Originally posted by Robtard
Um, dude, the proper nomenclature is "scissoring". Or Tribbing.
Robtard
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Or Tribbing.
Original response. +1 point to you.
Mr. Tibbs
Originally posted by Robtard
Original response. +1 point to you. Or scissoring.
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Robtard
Um, dude, the proper nomenclature is "scissoring".
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Scissor-me-timbers, backward tribbing is all the rage among dykes these days.
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Or Tribbing.
Originally posted by Robtard
Original response. +1 point to you.
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Or scissoring.
hahahaha.. thanks for the laughs guys
AmbientFire
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I don't think you understand... Katniss hit the f*cking centre of the target--that is literally perfection. Hawkeye's screwed.
And exactly how big is the margin of error on a USB slot? Read my post again and internalize it, maybe you'll see what I'm getting at in terms of archery skill.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by AmbientFire
And exactly how big is the margin of error on a USB slot? Read my post again and internalize it, maybe you'll see what I'm getting at in terms of archery skill. The chance of successfully installing perfection in to Hawkeye via a USB slot is approximately 3720:1.
Katniss is a far superior archer to that amateur.
the ninjak
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The chance of successfully installing perfection in to Hawkeye via a USB slot is approximately 3720:1.
Katniss is a far superior archer to that amateur.
You're smitten Lucien. Can't blame you though.
Lord Lucien
I won't deny it, Liam Hemsworth is a total babe.
the ninjak
Hey what can I say... Aussies are the best.
Robtard
Originally posted by AmbientFire
And exactly how big is the margin of error on a USB slot? Read my post again and internalize it, maybe you'll see what I'm getting at in terms of archery skill.
While that shot was impressive, it's not nearly as impressive as Katniss' exact center of the target shot.
How could I say this you ask? What the hell is this sexy cat thinking you claim? I will tell you. Hawkeye used the laser-pointer-thingy on his bow to guide him, Katniss used nothing but raw talent. ie Hawkeye cheated.
the ninjak
Shooting a USBArrow will always be more impressive than shooting a target dead on center,
WHY? because the USBArrow needed to be perfectly on an angle to insert the USB. Whereas Katniss' arrow could've hit on any angle.
Hawkeye wins.
Katniss just needed to hit her target in the middle without worrying about angle or triangulation.
Whereas Hawkeye needed to be SPOT ON!!!!
Katniss Everdeen would never make the shot HE did in Avengers with the USB arrow. Because it's supernatural.
There's your proof. Stop strokin to Katniss cause it's really unimpressive.
She can't beat him on any level. Clint is KING in this fight. He hangs in a tree and shoots her clothes off. As she desperately tries to pull her garments onto herself he shoots more off.
Robtard
Originally posted by the ninjak
Shooting a USBArrow will always be more impressive than shooting a target dead on center,
WHY? because the USBArrow needed to be perfectly on an angle to insert the USB. Whereas Katniss' arrow could've hit on any angle.
Hawkeye wins.
Katniss just needed to hit her target in the middle without worrying about angle or triangulation.
Whereas Hawkeye needed to be SPOT ON!!!!
Katniss Everdeen would never make the shot HE did in Avengers with the USB arrow. Because it's supernatural.
There's your proof. Stop strokin to Katniss cause it's really unimpressive.
She can't beat him on any level. Clint is KING in this fight. He hangs in a tree and shoots her clothes off. As she desperately tries to pull her garments onto herself he shoots more off.
see: laser-pointy-thing
the ninjak
Originally posted by Robtard
see: laser-pointy-thing
He shot a high speed hovercraft without looking at it!
Shot Loki with a shot that would've hit him in the face if not him catching it!
And a laser marker only goes so far. Adjusting the feel for entering a USB arrow into a slot is insane. A laser pointer can only do so much. 360 degrees of improvisation are needed and Hawkeye did it with ease.
People are putting WAAAAYYYY too much leeway onto the laser pointer.
Robtard
Originally posted by the ninjak
He shot a high speed hovercraft without looking at it!
Shot Loki with a shot that would've hit him in the face if not him catching it!
And a laser marker only goes so far. Adjusting the feel for entering a USB arrow into a slot is insane. A laser pointer can only do so much. 360 degrees of improvisation are needed and Hawkeye did it with ease.
People are putting WAAAAYYYY too much leeway onto the laser pointer.
After he had pegged it with the laser-pointy-thing.
With said laser-pointy-thing.
Laser-pointy-thing goes farther than he can see and farther than the bow's range.
Nope, laser-pointy-thing is 50-77% of Hawkeyes badassness with a bow. Katniss hit the center of the target with nothing but skill and sex appeal.
the ninjak
Originally posted by Robtard
After he had pegged it with the laser-pointy-thing.
With said laser-pointy-thing.
Laser-pointy-thing goes farther than he can see and farther than the bow's range.
Nope, laser-pointy-thing is 50-77% of Hawkeyes badassness with a bow. Katniss hit the center of the target with nothing but skill and sex appeal.
Nope.
The human eye can only see a laser go so far.
The laser didn't help him hit the Chitauri craft without looking at it.
The laser didn't help shoot an arrow at Loki.
And the arrow could've only narrowly helped put a USB Arrow into its slot from an vent.
Lasers only go so far. It didn't help when Hawkeye adjusted against the wind in upper atmosphere. Katniss would've shot her arrow into the nether and we all know it.
Clint saw from atop a building speeding cruisers and shot them down with perfect accuracy. Laser aim had NOTHING to do with it for the human eye can only perceive a laser's influence so far. But can still see vehicles move.
Hawkeye is a superhuman.....Katniss isn't.
Hawkeye wins this in a major stomp!
Robtard
Originally posted by the ninjak
Nope.
The human eye can only see a laser go so far.
The laser didn't help him hit the Chitauri craft without looking at it.
The laser didn't help shoot an arrow at Loki.
And the arrow could've only narrowly helped put a USB Arrow into its slot from an vent.
Lasers only go so far. It didn't help when Hawkeye adjusted against the wind in upper atmosphere. Katniss would've shot her arrow into the nether and we all know it.
Clint saw from atop a building speeding cruisers and shot them down with perfect accuracy. Laser aim had NOTHING to do with it for the human eye can only perceive a laser's influence so far. But can still see vehicles move.
Hawkeye is a superhuman.....Katniss isn't.
Hawkeye wins this in a major stomp!
Yup.
Okay, which means Hawkeye would see the laser up to his vision's range. The point of the laser is to help aim.
It did, he had aimed with the laser before be turned and fired.
We see Hawkeye using the laser to target Loki.
Nope, laser is there to help aim.
The laser goes further than he can see. So it's helping him up to his max range.
WTF, the point of the laser is to help aim; that's what it's there for.
the ninjak
Originally posted by Robtard
Yup.
Okay, which means Hawkeye would see the laser up to his vision's range. The point of the laser is to help aim.
It did, he had aimed with the laser before be turned and fired.
We see Hawkeye using the laser to target Loki.
Nope, laser is there to help aim.
The laser goes further than he can see. So it's helping him up to his max range.
WTF, the point of the laser is to help aim; that's what it's there for.
Nope
The laser only goes so far.
QUOTE: CRIMSON TRACE Crimson Trace has the most powerful beam allowed by law, a Class 3R visible light diode. At night, in reduced light, and indoors, the laser is highly visible up to several hundred yards. Under bright sunlight, the dot can be seen up to 15-25 feet away. Lighter-colored surfaces reflect laser light better than darker surfaces. The lighter the surface, the brighter the laser dot will appear.
MOST OF THE FIGHTS TAKE PLACE DURING DAYLIGHT>
On a building, aiming at random speeding cruisers. Hawkeye had to rely on his own supernatural skill to hit those craft and soldiers in the back of their necks.
In the scene where HE shoots at Loki he is simply aiming.
The only time I would agree that the laser helped is when he shot the USB Arrow and when he fought Chitauri front on. But even then he had to get the angle correct. Which is far more impressive than Katniss' direct bullseye hit because of the angle of the arrow.
Just because you may see the laser shooting forth doesn't mean HE needs the actual beam to hit his mark during the scene involved.
When do you ever see the beam on on the target????????
HAWKEYE in a major stomp!
Robtard
Originally posted by the ninjak
Nope
The laser only goes so far.
The more you know: http://www.rp-photonics.com/laser_pointers.html
the ninjak
If the question is meant to be how far the light of a laser pointer can propagate, the correct answer is that there is no limit, provided that the light is not absorbed or scattered away in the atmosphere. However, the beam area will eventually become larger due to the beam divergence, so that the intensity e.g. on a screen will be reduced even if the overall power remains constant.
In other words in the daylight the beam becomes bigger and more separated as the beam is transmitted.
Robtard
In other words I was right and you were wrong. There's also a scene where Hawkeye in on the building in NY(after IM flies him up) and we clearly see him aiming with the laser. Which is there for exactly that purpose.
Ergo Katniss solos.
edit: if you need, i can take a screen cap when i get home
Lord Lucien
Don't forget that Hawkeye was shooting in a fight where he had the backup of superheroes. Katniss had to make a shot by herself, under stress, knowing she ultimately had no help. And she still hit the dead centre of a target, shriveling balls everywhere with perfect accuracy and creamy thighs.
the ninjak
You can't see a laser from atop a building during the day.
Hwkeye doensn't aim directly at moving targets anyways. That's not how bows work.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by the ninjak
You can't see a laser from atop a building during the day.
Hwkeye doensn't aim directly at moving targets anyways. That's not how bows work. That's not how his bow works, because that's not how he works. Katniss, on the other hand, can aim directly at a moving target and still hit it. I would know, I'm a professional archer and I can tell by how well she hit that stationary target that she's a demi-god when it comes to hitting moving ones. QED.
Mr. Tibbs
Hawkeye was bullseyeing moving alien craft without even looking at them.
Katniss missed a fully grown woman from five feet away.
Hawkeye wins.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Katniss missed a fully grown woman from five feet away. Lesbian magnetism.
Robtard
Originally posted by the ninjak
You can't see a laser from atop a building during the day.
Hwkeye doensn't aim directly at moving targets anyways. That's not how bows work.
So laser pointers on guns only work at night now, or at least not during the day? Stop pulling turds from your rectum, pal.
Using laser to aim directly at a moving target (flying ship) while on top of a building during the day:
http://imageshack.us/a/img717/6750/lasersf.jpg
the ninjak
Fine...he uses lasers in daytime against flying vehicles.
Proof that he has superhuman eyesight and ability. Katniss could never replicate his feats. Even if she was in Groundhog day.
Mr. Tibbs
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Hawkeye was bullseyeing moving alien craft without even looking at them.
Katniss missed a fully grown woman from five feet away.
Hawkeye wins.
wallman77
ppl arent serious. all those talking about lasers helping hawkeye....need to recollect. the shot he made on the aircraft to the hellicarrier was far more impressive than anything that girl did. using the wind to place the arrow perfectly where he intended it to go. not to mention shooting that chitaru ship without even looking while fully engaging iron man in conversation... speaking of iron man, after he made the blind shot, when iron man had at least 4 chitaru's on his tail, hawkeye hit one of them again without looking at it. watch the scene when iron was told bank and find a tight corner. hawkeye's bow was leading the target while his eyes were elsewhere. how are you gonna blame those feats on the laser? his feats blow her's outta the water. not to mention he was dodging full on laser blasts from chitaru ships. he also effectively dodged and saved fury from the blasts from loki's spear showing incredible reaction time. he proved formidable h2h wise when he was taking on those aliens using the bow as a weapon. if katniss was in the invasion of new york, she might have got one kill if she was lucky. she would have gotten her butt roasted 2minutes in.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by wallman77
the shot he made on the aircraft to the hellicarrier was far more impressive than anything that girl did. Middle of the fracking target, duuuude!
the ninjak
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Middle of the fracking target, duuuude!
Katniss would never have made that shot. Nor the Chitauri ship one. Actually she wouldn't have made most of the shots he did in the movie.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by the ninjak
Katniss would never have made that shot. Nor the Chitauri ship one. Actually she wouldn't have made most of the shots he did in the movie. Since she wasn't in the movie, you can't know that. Ergo I'm right, you're wrong. Katniss>Hawkeye.
the ninjak
No I'm certain due to the fact she missed her prey due to a simple distraction in the early parts of the film.
Clint wouldn't have missed the deer.
Clint wouldn't have missed the first shots of the fruit bag on the enemies bass structure either due to his USB arrow feat.
It's kind of sad that your hard on for her clouds your judgement. She may be hot, but she she missed many shots in that movie...yet Clint's only failure was againt another highly trained operative in an enclosed area.
He kills her with ease just admit it.
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by the ninjak
No I'm certain due to the fact she missed her prey due to a simple distraction in the early parts of the film.
Clint wouldn't have missed the deer.
Clint wouldn't have missed the first shots of the fruit bag on the enemies bass structure either due to his USB arrow feat.
It's kind of sad that your hard on for her clouds your judgement. She may be hot, but she she missed many shots in that movie...yet Clint's only failure was againt another highly trained operative in an enclosed area.
He kills her with ease just admit it.
this thread was over a long time ago
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by the ninjak
No I'm certain due to the fact she missed her prey due to a simple distraction in the early parts of the film.
Clint wouldn't have missed the deer.
Clint wouldn't have missed the first shots of the fruit bag on the enemies bass structure either due to his USB arrow feat.
It's kind of sad that your hard on for her clouds your judgement. She may be hot, but she she missed many shots in that movie...yet Clint's only failure was againt another highly trained operative in an enclosed area.
He kills her with ease just admit it. tl;dr Katniss wins cuz shes bettah, Im an expert so i would kno, QED.
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
tl;dr Katniss wins cuz shes bettah, Im an expert so i would kno, QED.
but you can't equate what you've done in real life though.. katniss is not better , she doesn't have the feats to stack up to hawkeye
Lord Lucien
Yes she does.
fqs9DYisSsg
the ninjak
So you're the Donkey?
Estacado
This is basically spite.
Placidity
Originally posted by AmbientFire
And he has a USB-arrow.
Best post of the thread (I only read 2 pages).
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yes she does.
fqs9DYisSsg
lol dude still doesn't change the fact that Katniss loses.. Believe me I loved the movie, have the blu ray, am a huge Jennifer Lawrence fan, but when you go by the screen feats and not lust, the feats say otherwise..
Originally posted by Placidity
Best post of the thread (I only read 2 pages).
lucky you

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by the ninjak
So you're the Donkey? No, I'm Kevin Costner.
the ninjak
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No, I'm Kevin Costner.
You couldn't keep Whitney alive. You're the worst bodyguard ever!
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by the ninjak
You couldn't keep Whitney alive. You're the worst bodyguard ever!
lol
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by the ninjak
You couldn't keep Whitney alive. You're the worst bodyguard ever! Au contraire: I'm the best assassin ever. My lips were poisoned--Uma Thurman style.
marwash22
7 pages, huh? I thought this was over on page 1.
there must be quite the interesting discussion going on about how many different ways Katniss gets her face raped by an arrow...
Lord Lucien
Why would an arrow rape her?
King Ghidorah
Ok seriously, Hawkeye is the victor due to having better feats such as dodging lasers and his arrow shot at Loki's face was dead on but Loki only caught it because he's an Asgardian and Asgardians have superhuman, god-like reflexes.
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