Broly vs. Atrocitus
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byrdgang21
These two monsters of rage run into each other on an desolate planet similar to earth. They immediately engage in an all out battle.
Broly is in SS mode
DCnU Atrocitus
Fight to the death
Who wins?
Effect Veiler
Broly one-shots the Galaxy, Atrocitus dies.
ScreamPaste
The DBZ character? He could do no such thing.
AuraAngel
Bahahaha!
Meet Effect Veiler ScreamPaste. I think you and he will get along just swimmingly.
ScreamPaste
Wait, so VG versus had BT, Comics/Movies had Quan, is this the anime forum version?
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The DBZ character? He could do no such thing.
Plot point of the first movie featuring Broly. I suggest you go watch it before I embarrass you.
ScreamPaste
Do try. He never displayed that sort of power. haermm
Effect Veiler
9DlXamubEc4
And here's the Japanese version subbed, just in case you're extremely dense.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9853/part1e.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8525/part2u.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6943/part3j.jpg
http://www.lovemyanime.net//index.php?/dragonball-z-movie-8-broly-the-legendary-ss
Only a few planets at the outskirts of the galaxy survived.
Now begone, clown.
ScreamPaste
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
9DlXamubEc4
And here's the Japanese version subbed, just in case you're extremely dense.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9853/part1e.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8525/part2u.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6943/part3j.jpg
http://www.lovemyanime.net//index.php?/dragonball-z-movie-8-broly-the-legendary-ss
Only a few planets at the outskirts of the galaxy survived.
Now begone, clown. Off screen feat, Broly was beaten by a combined kamehameha which carried him into the sun without busting it, after overpowering his own ki blast. haermm So, yeah. Pardon my doubt concerning that particular off screen feat.
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Off screen feat, Broly was beaten by a combined kamehameha which carried him into the sun without busting it,
Attack potency =/= collateral damage.
Or are you arguing that Roshi's moon-buster was more powerful than Majin Vegeta's Final Explosion?
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
haermm So, yeah. Pardon my doubt concerning that particular off screen feat.
Mon El got messed up from Superboy Prime throwing cars at him (and the cars barely got any damage. So pardon me if I decide to ignore all other feats. /yourlogic
ScreamPaste
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Attack potency =/= collateral damage.
Or are you arguing that Roshi's moon-buster was more powerful than Majin Vegeta's Final Explosion?
Mon El got messed up from Superboy Prime throwing cars at him (and the cars barely got any damage. So pardon me if I decide to ignore all other feats. /yourlogic That is not my logic, my logic is simple. A direct comparison of the power it took to defeat him to his own shows that their output was 1. greater. 2. Less destructive than starbusting.
Nice strawman, though. Also, DB as a series is incredibly inconsistant anyway. A lot of the best feats are from earlier in the series and are used for powerscaling off of because, let's face it, by feats some characters actually get weaker. Like how Goku without Supersaiyan can barely handle a stated and canon 40 tons. shrug
Like I said, I don't give a shit about this thread, I'm just calling you on things.

Effect Veiler
The only thing you're doing is grasping at straws.
Collateral Damage =/= Attack Potency
The manga proves this.
And Broly never appeared in the manga, so there's no point in even bringing that up. Especially since SSJ Goku in the new canon movie holds back an energy blast of 2.1 solar masses.
2.1 solar masses (SSJ Goku strength) >>>>>>>>> 40 tons (Base Goku strength)
Broly fought SSJ Goku btw...
Fact >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your bias opinion
NemeBro
What does galaxy busting matter when Atrocitus just kills him with a single attack before Broly can process a thought?
ScreamPaste
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
The only thing you're doing is grasping at straws.
Collateral Damage =/= Attack Potency
The manga proves this.
And Broly never appeared in the manga, so there's no point in even bringing that up. Especially since SSJ Goku in the new canon movie holds back an energy blast of 2.1 solar masses.
2.1 solar masses (SSJ Goku strength) >>>>>>>>> 40 tons (Base Goku strength)
Broly fought SSJ Goku btw...
Fact >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your bias opinion This Goku is also more powerful, and 2.1 solar masses =/= a galaxy.
link-rape
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by NemeBro
What does galaxy busting matter when Atrocitus just kills him with a single attack before Broly can process a thought?
Show me a single combat speed feat by Atrocitus that would put him anywhere near Broly.
Don't worry, I know for a fact that Broly is faster, so I'll wait.
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This Goku is also more powerful, and 2.1 solar masses =/= a galaxy.
Strength =/= Energy Projection
Gosh, it's like VS newbie heaven here.
NemeBro
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Show me a single combat speed feat by Atrocitus that would put him anywhere near Broly.
Don't worry, I know for a fact that Broly is faster, so I'll wait.
Atrocitus is on the same level as Hal Jordan, about.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/4868c886.jpg
Here Hal catches a speeding flash.
So how fast is Broly? Do tell, my small-minded friend.
ScreamPaste
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Strength =/= Energy Projection
Gosh, it's like VS newbie heaven here.
SSJ Goku =/= Base Goku, either, what's your point?
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by NemeBro
Atrocitus is on the same level as Hal Jordan, about.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/129023/2483196-batman_punching_hal.jpg
Broly wins
NemeBro
I see you're resorting to trolling.
You're kind of a pussy, aren't you?
Effect Veiler
What? Batman knocking out Hal is trolling?
Do you even know what powers the Green Lantern Ring grants? Hal has human reflexes, and so does Atrocitus.
Do you even read comics?
ArtificialGlory
Didn't Batman once beat Darkseid's Omega Sanction? Batman is by far the biggest Marty Stu in existence and anything he does should be taken with a galaxy's worth pinch of salt.
abhilegend
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
What? Batman knocking out Hal is trolling?
Do you even know what powers the Green Lantern Ring grants? Hal has human reflexes, and so does Atrocitus.
Do you even read comics?
Batman sucker-punched hal and he wasn't KOED either. Do you read comics?
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Didn't Batman once beat Darkseid's Omega Sanction?
An ability that had never been seen before? What, you assumed that it was like the Omega Beam?
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Batman is by far the biggest Marty Stu in existence and anything he does should be taken with a galaxy's worth pinch of salt.
How about this. Without bringing up any form of speed scaling, and without using travel speed feats.
Show me any impressive combat speed feats by Hal. Anything from stopping a bullet after it has been fired to blocking a laser.
The web is full of wankrespect threads, surely there has to be something somewhere?
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman sucker-punched hal and he wasn't KOED either. Do you read comics?
Face-palm....
http://i.imgur.com/8GXb1u6l.jpg
Beware of GL's FTL reflexes.
NemeBro
I posted him catching a running Flash fatass.
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by NemeBro
I posted him catching a running Flash fatass.
That's scaling.... idiot
This is how reliable scaling in DC is.
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss79/MoseyGod/Flash/Beatendown.jpg
Flash getting knocked out by normal people.
Effect Veiler
In fact, **** Hal. Show me Atrocitus' combat speed feats.
NemeBro
Fighting with Hal.
Effect Veiler
And Hal fought with Batman who has no Super powers.
Congratulations. You have lost the debate.
abhilegend
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
An ability that had never been seen before? What, you assumed that it was like the Omega Beam?
How about this. Without bringing up any form of speed scaling, and without using travel speed feats.
Show me any impressive combat speed feats by Hal. Anything from stopping a bullet after it has been fired to blocking a laser.
The web is full of wankrespect threads, surely there has to be something somewhere?
Easy. A holding back hal who thinks he's facing against Barry Allen holds his own against Professor Zoom in combat
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15474501_121968602_fa50726ad4_b.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15474502_121968603_1bf1519bdf_b.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15474503_121968605_cd65fab1d4_b.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15474504_121968606_5d89e2cfbf_b.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15474505_121968607_74f1d54322_b.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15474506_121968608_a69a725f33_b.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15474507_121969792_08e48c211b_b.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15474508_121969793_f40ea11e19_b.jpg
Don't talk like you actually know about these characters.
NemeBro
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
And Hal fought with Batman who has no Super powers.
Congratulations. You have lost the debate.
Batman has tagged characters much faster than Broly (Like Hal). He'd tag Broly easily.
abhilegend
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Face-palm....
http://i.imgur.com/8GXb1u6l.jpg
Beware of GL's FTL reflexes.
That's from two different comics dumbass. The first scan is from GL v4 9, the second is from JL 1 and that's a rookie hal who has just received the ring. Seriously stop while you still have some dignity left.
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by NemeBro
Batman has tagged characters much faster than Broly (Like Hal). He'd tag Broly easily.
And that's all I needed to hear to declare your opinion worthless.
Debating with you scrubs is too easy.
abhilegend
Originally posted by NemeBro
Batman has tagged characters much faster than Broly (Like Hal). He'd tag Broly easily.
Batman once stopped Bart Allen zipping around at FTL speed by just catching his hair and tripped Wally once when he was zipping around at FTL speed too. He's called the Batgod for a reason.
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's from two different comics dumbass.
When did I say it was the same fight? Oh that's right, I didn't.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Seriously stop while you still have some dignity left.I'm still waiting for that Atrocitus speed feat.
NemeBro
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
And that's all I needed to hear to declare your opinion worthless.
Debating with you scrubs is too easy.
I accept your concession.
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman once stopped Bart Allen zipping around at FTL speed by just catching his hair and tripped Wally once when he was zipping around at FTL speed too.
No he didn't.
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by NemeBro
I accept your concession.
My concession that you're a dumbass? By all means.
NemeBro
You seem mad.
Calm down bro.
Effect Veiler
"You mad?", this is what the debate has degenerated to?
I think I've proven my case.
NemeBro and abhill are seriously arguing that Batman has super speed, and supposedly the citizens that beat up the Flash does too.
We normal people on the other hand realize that scaling characters speed against eachother in DC doesn't work, as PROVEN by all inconsistencies posted here.
Speed scaling only work in consistent series written by one author.
NemeBro
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
"You mad?", this is what the debate has degenerated to?
I think I've proven my case.
NemeBro and abhill are seriously arguing that Batman has super speed, and supposedly the citizens that beat up the Flash does too.
We normal people on the other hand realize that scaling characters speed against eachother in DC doesn't work, as PROVEN by all inconsistencies posted here.
Speed scaling only work in consistent series written by one author.
Speed scaling works fine if using feats from the same author.
Green Lanterns in Infinite Crisis managed to intercept and fight Superboy Prime. Written by Geoff Johns.
Atrocitus written by Geoff Johns can fight with Hal.
Try harder.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
When did I say it was the same fight? Oh that's right, I didn't.
I'm still waiting for that Atrocitus speed feat.
You tried to pass it like it was some kind of low feat when it isn't. See how Hal, Sinestro and a group of blue lanterns do against Atrocitus
http://imageshack.us/a/img62/2149/o86s.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img600/1394/o87g.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img94/3673/o88t.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/9095/o89n.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img844/3182/o90n.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/8361/o91.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img849/821/o92.jpg
Agains hal, sinestro and Carol Ferris
http://imageshack.us/a/img27/509/o109u.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img203/807/o110.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/6463/o111.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img28/2585/o112.jpg
We can easily use power-scaling which DBZ fans like you love so much.
abhilegend
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
"You mad?", this is what the debate has degenerated to?
I think I've proven my case.
NemeBro and abhill are seriously arguing that Batman has super speed, and supposedly the citizens that beat up the Flash does too.
We normal people on the other hand realize that scaling characters speed against eachother in DC doesn't work, as PROVEN by all inconsistencies posted here.
Speed scaling only work in consistent series written by one author. By all means post the citizens beating Flash. All these fights were written by a single writer.
Effect Veiler
Originally posted by NemeBro
Speed scaling works fine if using feats from the same author.
So what author drew Hal catching the Flash, and yes I'll need proof.
@abhill, go back a page and read. I've already posted it.
abhilegend
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
So what author drew Hal catching the Flash, and yes I'll need proof.
@abhill, go back a page and read. I've already posted it.
It was Mark Waid and Geoff Johns.
Are you serious with that shit? That's a 30th century legion world in which every being has super-speed and Flash was holding himself back due to guilt. He was below mach speed at that point in his life. Now you are just throwing shit at wall and hoping something sticks.
Chozone
Atrocitus is immortal, Broly isn't
He can regenerate from any of Broly's attacks, Broly cant
Atroc wins
Wei Phoenix
Atrocitus stomps.
ScreamPaste
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Atrocitus stomps. Sir, I am inclined to agree.
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