Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann vs Galactus

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Jmanghan
Who do you think takes this?

Wei Phoenix
Last time I checked it was Galactus but I may be wrong.

Utrigita
Is there anything to Lagann besides being really big?

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Utrigita
Is there anything to Lagann besides being really big?

Probability Alteration, and the fact that it's bigger then our universe by a ****ing longshot. On record, it's 52 billion light years big. It moved over 17 billion Light Years in less then 3 seconds, and it tanked a big bang. (No, this isn't a spite thread, since it's a legitimate topic made to this day.)

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Probability Alteration, and the fact that it's bigger then our universe by a ****ing longshot. On record, it's 52 billion light years big. It moved over 17 billion Light Years in less then 3 seconds, and it tanked a big bang. (No, this isn't a spite thread, since it's a legitimate topic made to this day.) I forgot the ability to be able to create matter out of Thin Air. (Which is no small feat even by the series' own standard, as the various drills and weapons materialized are larger than most galaxies)

StealthRanger
Galactus curbstomps

Jmanghan
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Galactus curbstomps Tanking a Big Bang > Eating planets for nourishment. Not to mention, that wasn't our universe they were in when we they were fighting, it was an infinite pocket universe, which, by comparison, is much bigger then ours, and they were still able to pretty much absorb it and nearly destroy it with a single Spiral Drill, Earth would be too small to be seen by STTGL, and I'm sure if STTGL was able to squint a bit, it would be able to see Galactus, we are talking about an ENTITY, yes, an ENTITY, that tears holes in goddamn dimensions and alters reality, on TOP of just altering probability on it's on, on top of being able to create ANY weapon from any universe it wishes, including the marvel universe, STTGL is literally God level, it isn't just bigger then our Universe completely, it TOWERS over our universe.

Jmanghan
And if, by some Miracle, Galactus manages to destroy STTGL, it still has to deal with TTGL, then Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann, Then Arc-Gurren, THEN Gurren Lagann, and then Lagann (Or Gurren, depending on which mech is hit by Galactus' Attack)

Jmanghan
And, TTGL is the one that tanked the Big Bang, TTGL is almost an ant compared to STTGL

StealthRanger
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Tanking a Big Bang > Eating planets for nourishment. Not to mention, that wasn't our universe they were in when we they were fighting, it was an infinite pocket universe, which, by comparison, is much bigger then ours, and they were still able to pretty much absorb it and nearly destroy it with a single Spiral Drill, Earth would be too small to be seen by STTGL, and I'm sure if STTGL was able to squint a bit, it would be able to see Galactus, we are talking about an ENTITY, yes, an ENTITY, that tears holes in goddamn dimensions and alters reality, on TOP of just altering probability on it's on, on top of being able to create ANY weapon from any universe it wishes, including the marvel universe, STTGL is literally God level, it isn't just bigger then our Universe completely, it TOWERS over our universe.

>implies Galactus is limited to devouring planets
>implies Galactus at his utmost weakest doesn't destroy multiple solar systems
>ignores Galactus is casually above ****ers like Odin who destroy galaxies as a side effect of fighting
>and Galactus has a multiverse buster as standard equipment

Tearing holes in dimensions, you realise that's not a destructive feat right. Even Nardo and Clorox can do that. **** even Spiderman villains can tear holes in dimensions to get around. It's just creating portals. That is all

And Galactus can warp reality too. Whoopdee ****ing doo

Yeah, calling no limit fallacy on such bullshit of "creates anything from any verse" and lol at the "God level" as if that means a thing

NemeBro
If Galactus is allowed the Ultimate Nullifier then he definitely wins.

If he isn't he probably loses if he's at the level he most often shows up as in comics. Fully fed he definitely wins.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by StealthRanger
>implies Galactus is limited to devouring planets
>implies Galactus at his utmost weakest doesn't destroy multiple solar systems
>ignores Galactus is casually above ****ers like Odin who destroy galaxies as a side effect of fighting
>and Galactus has a multiverse buster as standard equipment

Tearing holes in dimensions, you realise that's not a destructive feat right. Even Nardo and Clorox can do that. **** even Spiderman villains can tear holes in dimensions to get around. It's just creating portals. That is all

And Galactus can warp reality too. Whoopdee ****ing doo

Yeah, calling no limit fallacy on such bullshit of "creates anything from any verse" and lol at the "God level" as if that means a thing Ok, let's say I take away the size of him, and all that shit. Galactus would still have to deal with actual probability alteration, which means, it can alter the probability in which Galactus would take damage and shit. You haven't addressed that. If they shoot a spiral missile at Galactus, they can change the probability of it doing low or significant damage, and whether or not it hits. If you watched the damn anime and the movie "Lagann-Hen". You'd most certainly see that they are capable of literally creating anything from thin air, but since no one on youtube uploaded the full goddamn fight between the Anti-Spiral and TTGL, I can't send you the whole clip. I can however send a link to an anime website. The Full Fight (Spoilers)

(I prefer this particular anime in dubbed form)

Jmanghan
Originally posted by NemeBro
If Galactus is allowed the Ultimate Nullifier then he definitely wins.

If he isn't he probably loses if he's at the level he most often shows up as in comics. Fully fed he definitely wins. They can alter the probability of it hitting, which means they Ultimate Nullifier is... Null. .-.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Tanking a Big Bang > Eating planets for nourishment. Not to mention, that wasn't our universe they were in when we they were fighting, it was an infinite pocket universe, which, by comparison, is much bigger then ours, and they were still able to pretty much absorb it and nearly destroy it with a single Spiral Drill, Earth would be too small to be seen by STTGL, and I'm sure if STTGL was able to squint a bit, it would be able to see Galactus, we are talking about an ENTITY, yes, an ENTITY, that tears holes in goddamn dimensions and alters reality, on TOP of just altering probability on it's on, on top of being able to create ANY weapon from any universe it wishes, including the marvel universe, STTGL is literally God level, it isn't just bigger then our Universe completely, it TOWERS over our universe.

Good thing Galactus was tanking big bangs before he was Galactus.

Jmanghan
Unless Galactus can actively alter probability (Which is different then altering reality) while he is in combat, I doubt he wins.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Unless Galactus can actively alter probability (Which is different then altering reality) while he is in combat, I doubt he wins.

The Power Cosmic allows Galactus to do many things, the possibilities are nigh infinite.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
The Power Cosmic allows Galactus to do many things, the possibilities are nigh infinite. If you can provide proof (scans) that Galactus altered the probability of his success rate of hitting someone with an attack, in combat, I'll agree on the spot that Galactus is the better man.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Good thing Galactus was tanking big bangs before he was Galactus. Scans, Scans. I provided proof above of just TTGL's feats, which aren't even close to STTGL's feats.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Jmanghan
If you can provide proof (scans) that Galactus altered the probability of his success rate of hitting someone with an attack, in combat, I'll agree on the spot that Galactus is the better man.

You do realize that altering probability isn't the strongest power ever and not even that useful of a power in a fight without plot right?

If I give you ten cards numbered 1-10, then add 20 more cards with the number 10 on it and shuffle then that doesn't mean nor guarantee that the first card will be a number ten card.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Scans, Scans. I provided proof above of just TTGL's feats, which aren't even close to STTGL's feats.

Read his Origin. Galactus was born Galan, a scientist who survived the big bang and became Galactus.

NemeBro
That isn't a durability feat and it isn't quantifiably on the level of a big bang.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You do realize that altering probability isn't the strongest power ever and not even that useful of a power in a fight without plot right?

If I give you ten cards numbered 1-10, then add 20 more cards with the number 10 on it and shuffle then that doesn't mean nor guarantee that the first card will be a number ten card.

By "Alter", they mean "LITERALLY CHANGE". By that logic, they could literally just change the PROBABILITY that it would be a 10 card, a 1 card, a two card, everything. The Anti-Spiral had this power too, which is why they were on an even playing field. If Galactus has the power to change probability of everything and anything on the fly whenever the hell he feels like it, he should've used it by now. He doesn't have that power YET, if they choose to show off something like that in Future Comics, then yes, he pretty much curbstomps STTGL, IF he is fully fed.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by NemeBro
That isn't a durability feat and it isn't quantifiably on the level of a big bang.

Probably, I don't do science good so I'll take your word for it.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
By "Alter", they mean "LITERALLY CHANGE". By that logic, they could literally just change the PROBABILITY that it would be a 10 card, a 1 card, a two card, everything. The Anti-Spiral had this power too, which is why they were on an even playing field. If Galactus has the power to change probability of everything and anything on the fly whenever the hell he feels like it, he should've used it by now. He doesn't have that power YET, if they choose to show off something like that in Future Comics, then yes, he pretty much curbstomps STTGL, IF he is fully fed.

Galactus has the power to end world hunger and make cows piss gold and he has yet to use that power.

pym-ftw
Originally posted by NemeBro
That isn't a durability feat and it isn't quantifiably on the level of a big bang. it is if you assume that the Energy would make him Galactus at that second.

The Crunch >(X Nigh Infinite) the big Bang

Utrigita
Galactus surviving the big bang.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/13-GalactusOrigin.jpg

Epicurus
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Read his Origin. Galactus was born Galan, a scientist who survived the big bang and became Galactus.
That's misleading. Pre-Galactus Galan was saved by the Eternity of the previous universe, who also guided his evolution into Galactus.

Epicurus
Originally posted by pym-ftw
it is
It really isn't. His transition to the Cosmic Egg was guided by the Sentience of the Universe, which also metamorphed him into Galactus by merging with him.

Being safeguarded by a universal cosmic being isn't a durability feat, strictly speaking.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Epicurus
That's misleading. Pre-Galactus Galan was saved by the Eternity of the previous universe, who also guided his evolution into Galactus.

I was wrong then.

Lek Kuen
Standard Galactus would lose. But some of his stronger states would win.

RaventheOnly
But TTGL can evolve endlessly embarrasment Size wise Galacticus would not even be visible to TTGL O.o

dika123
galactus with ultimate nullifier can erase multiverse, so galactus can erase STTGL from existence

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
But TTGL can evolve endlessly embarrasment Size wise Galacticus would not even be visible to TTGL O.o

Not sure about that, Galactus has no definite size.

RaventheOnly
But TTGL is the size of hundreds of universes and can also manipulate reality O.o I don't think Galactus has event been portrayed anywhere near the comically obscenely sized ttgl. Literally planets at the size portrayed would be like atoms.

Lek Kuen
I don't think he can get that big, but regarding reality

Originally posted by Galan007


When fighting Galactus, nothing will be as it seems... "His sheer presence can alter reality.":
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12448957_g1.jpg

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In fact, the reality warp Galactus causes just by existing, can literally unmake those around him:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12448961_g5.jpg

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"Galactus hits you on hundreds of different levels, even separate planes of reality... He might drop you into the past, or the future, or an alternate reality. He might just send killer robots to beat you down... He might control your mind, or teleport you a million miles away, or a million light years away... Then again, he might just turn you to dust.":
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12448958_g2.jpg

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"Time doesn't have to play by your rules... Not on Galactus's watch.":
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12448959_g3.jpg

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"What we normally see of Galactus is the merest tip. He's an iceberg of cosmic dimensions... No. Worse. He has no dimensions... No boundaries at all.":
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12448960_g4.jpg

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
I don't think he can get that big, but regarding reality Wouldn't all this make him above Superman Prime 1 Million? I mean, if he can literally uncreate beings and entities just by being near them, that would imply that he is possibly the strongest being in fiction.

RaventheOnly
The anti-spirals attempted to erase TTGL from reality but it resisted it by altering reality itself.

Astner
Spiral Energy is a multiversal force.

http://i.imgur.com/3FJyU7ml.png

Jmanghan
bump

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
STTGL murders.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
STTGL murders. Opinion?

SSJGGogeta
Yeah, STTGL absolutely trashes Galactus.

First off, STTGL is not the size of hundreds of universes. He's about half the size of our universe, and his drill is whats the size of approx. 100 universes. Regardless, he would effortlessly kill Galactus in this form. Go outside, and find a gnat, and crush it in your hands.

From STTGL's perspective, Galactus would be the gnat.

Galactus fully fed is typically around universal. STTGL is significantly beyond that.

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