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Who would be the strongest out of the sons of big boss?


Solid Snake?

or

Liquid Snake?

or

Solidus Snake?



if i remember correctly did Solid Snake has Dominant genes, which were superior? and Liquid Snake has Recessive genes? which were inferior.


but what about Solidus Snake? what genes would he had??

Solid Snake was the one with the recessive genes( there's a phone call at the end of MGS1 explaining that IIRC)

Solidus is an exact biological copy of Big Boss, which should make him the best on paper.

But considering Snake beat the real Big Boss twice, I think that speaks for itself.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Solid Snake was the one with the recessive genes( there's a phone call at the end of MGS1 explaining that IIRC)

Solidus is an exact biological copy of Big Boss, which should make him the best on paper.

But considering Snake beat the real Big Boss twice, I think that speaks for itself.

And where this means for Liquid Snake?

Solid had the best training though, none of the other two had direct help from Big Boss.

Really there's not much to separate either of the three though I guess you can argue Raiden with a katana was able to kill Solidus with amps to make him the weakest of all three.

There really isn't anyway to say for sure. Snake had foxdie along with support and training from foxhound. Liquid escaped and was working on his own and was told he was nothing. How this all affect snake not knowing and liquid is inconclusive just like Ocelot basically says.

And yea solidus had a balance but was amped up by bionics and that suit. But then Raiden beats him which throws that off. Logically though from his showings before that running at a speed that could keep up with vamp probably, deflecting metal gear ray bullets at any range, hell he was even president for a time, could have made him the top son. All out the window with Raiden.

Originally posted by SacredAncestor
There really isn't anyway to say for sure. Snake had foxdie along with support and training from foxhound. Liquid escaped and was working on his own and was told he was nothing. How this all affect snake not knowing and liquid is inconclusive just like Ocelot basically says.

And yea solidus had a balance but was amped up by bionics and that suit. But then Raiden beats him which throws that off. Logically though from his showings before that running at a speed that could keep up with vamp probably, deflecting metal gear ray bullets at any range, hell he was even president for a time, could have made him the top son. All out the window with Raiden.


I always feel it like this way

Solid Snake>>>>>>> Liquid Snake>>>>>> Solidus Snake.


I mean the only reason why Solidus Snake look so tough was because he had a suit that give him some ability..

Solid and Liquid always seemed comparable to me. With Solid having only a slight edge.

Both though are vastly superior to Solidus.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Solid Snake was the one with the recessive genes( there's a phone call at the end of MGS1 explaining that IIRC)

No one in MSG knows jack squat about genetics

All of Solidus's feats are done in his exosuit

Liquid Snake is practically the Terminator in how nigh-unkillable he was in the first game and should have comparable fighting skills to Solid, if somewhat below

So I'd probably give a nod to Liquid in physicality while Solid makes up for it with his fighting skill

Originally posted by Crimson Dragoon
All of Solidus's feats are done in his exosuit

Liquid Snake is practically the Terminator in how nigh-unkillable he was in the first game and should have comparable fighting skills to Solid, if somewhat below

So I'd probably give a nod to Liquid in physicality while Solid makes up for it with his fighting skill

But Solid was fighting Fox who right before that fight was casually knocking guys 50 feet and denting reinforced metal plating on the walls. Then he goes and holds up Metal Gear Rex which weighs like 500 tons or some shit. That's far above Liquid physically.

Feat wise yes but then again Solid has all the recessive genes.

As crazy as MGS world is, I wouldn't be surprised if all BB's best genes weren't the recessive ones somehow, because plain and simple Solid is the best of the three all around from what we've seen. And how he's the only one to simply die from the cloning process being imperfect and not get killed, despite facing far more enemies and dangerous situations than Liquid or Solidus.

^ Didn't Solidus age even faster? Also Liquid was a cockroach in the first MGS game.

But yeah Snake should be the best.

If he's in his exo skeleton Solidus, when they first ran into him on the Big Shell,. Snake was too scared to get off the helicopter he was on to fight Solidus and tried shooting him with a gun and then a grenade launcher, leaving Raiden to fight him off when he jumped into the Harrier Jet

With no exo skeleton, Solidus has no showings and Snake already beat Liquid on top of Rex, although Foxdie is what ultimately killed him so it's debatable who's superior.

Also Snake never beat Fox, his suit was malfunctioning and he wanted to die in that fight.

Solid Snake don't fear NO Man. he was not scare to face Solidus

He could had taken on Solidus Snake in face to face if he was given a chance.

He was scared of Solidus, that's why he stayed on his helicopter instead of being a man and going down to fight Solidus, caught he would of been killed

Originally posted by Rezactic
He was scared of Solidus, that's why he stayed on his helicopter instead of being a man and going down to fight Solidus, caught he would of been killed

and How would he be killed????


by your logic. i can say same thing about liquid Snake. He was too scare face solid snake when he was driving a HIND D helicopter in MGS1

but it would make no sense.

Originally posted by EmptyHearted
and How would he be killed????


by your logic. i can say same thing about liquid Snake. He was too scare face solid snake when he was driving a HIND D helicopter in MGS1

but it would make no sense. Simple, Solidus would of taken his sword and jammed it down Snake's throat, easy

The differnce is that Liquid challenged Snake to a fight, so we know he isn't afraid, Solidus was taunting Solid Snake and Snake had to stay in the chopper where it was safe

Get educated son

Originally posted by KingD19
As crazy as MGS world is, I wouldn't be surprised if all BB's best genes weren't the recessive ones somehow, because plain and simple Solid is the best of the three all around from what we've seen. And how he's the only one to simply die from the cloning process being imperfect and not get killed, despite facing far more enemies and dangerous situations than Liquid or Solidus.


In real life, how good genes are have nothing to do with where or not they're recessive.

Originally posted by Q99
In real life, how good genes are have nothing to do with where or not they're recessive.

Case in point, blue eye's are recessive.

Solidus used tech, so kind of a cheat.

And he still lost to ***** Raiden (As opposed to Jack the Ripper, who lost most of the emo with 99% of his body.)

Originally posted by Rezactic


Also Snake never beat Fox, his suit was malfunctioning and he wanted to die in that fight.

I never said he beat him. I said he was fighting him, and just before that fight he was kicking people 50 feet and crunching metal. Even during the fight Snake got knocked back a good distance. It shows how tough/strong he is to actually fight a guy like Grey Fox in hand to hand.

Originally posted by KingD19
I never said he beat him. I said he was fighting him, and just before that fight he was kicking people 50 feet and crunching metal. Even during the fight Snake got knocked back a good distance. It shows how tough/strong he is to actually fight a guy like Grey Fox in hand to hand. No it really doesn't. Fox was holding back, he didn't want to kill Snake and he wanted to die

In Metal Gear Solid 2 Vamp was able to effortlessly disarm Snake, pin him against a wall and cut him open before he spared him. If Vamp can easily do that to Snake than Gray Fox could of killed him if he wanted to.

Originally posted by Rezactic
I'm simply an advocate of the truth and nothing else.

In fact judging by this post, you really know nothing about Metal Gear Solid.

In Metal Gear Solid 1 Snake infiltrated a base full of Genome soldiers, these soldiers had automated senses but they also had little to no experience and 3 of them were mowed down by Meryl (who was a rookie who had never killed before) quite easily

On top of that, over the course of Metal Gear Solid, Snake was caught a totle of 5 times throughout the game. Meryl (again a rookie) had sneaked up on Snake TWICE, he had been caught twice by the Genomes, in one instance was beaten by 3 Genomes and captured. And towards the end of the game in REX's hanger he was caught on camera by Liquid and Ocelot like a total goof.

As far as Foxhound goes, Psycho Mantis read his mind just fine, the only reason Snake beat him was by breaking the fourth wall (gameplay mechanic plugging the controller into port 2) He didn't beat Mantis because Mantis couldn't read his mind. Stop making things up.

Sniper Wolf is also a joke, she claims to be the world's greatest sniper? Yet she lost to Solid Snake twice in a row, so by default he would be the world's greatest sniper, and considering how he couldn't even tag Solidus with gun fire that doesn't speak volumes on the level of marksmanship in MGS.

Finally with Gray Fox, as stated above, Gray Fox suit was malfunctioning, and Gray Fox wanted to die. Considering how bad Vamp was able to own Snake in MGS2, if Fox had wanted to kill Snake he could of done so with ease.



I know about metal gear Solid then you good sir. and NOW I KNOW WHOM I AM TALKING TOO.. you that Hater of metal gear Solid.






ohh by the way. You clam Vamp own Solid Snake? in MGS2? ok Solid Snake own vamp in MGS4

like I said Before. Solid Snake has he infiltrated in a base which was fulled of Genome soldiers . and taken down members of Fox-Hound!,

Psycho Mantis. Say what you want of how snake defeated mantis. the Fact are. he beat MAntis



snipers wolf. yes she clam as one of the best snipers in the entire world, that why it amazing feat for Snake to defeat her in the snowfield.

Vulcan Raven: a huge Man carry a powerful M61 Vulcan 20mm hydraulically or pneumatically driven, six-barreled, air-cooled, electrically fired Gatling-style autocannon with an extremely high rate of fire. It has been the principal cannon armament of United States military aircraft for decades. not to mention he says hes very Smart and quick thinker. yet Solid Snake defeated him


Solid Snake also could had defeat ocelot in gun fight. but was interrupt by gray fox. and Ocelot is expert on revolver.


Gray Fox: Solid Snake did hold his ground against Gray fox. You right Gray fox could kill Solid Snake if he wanna too. by using his super speed. but that would be cheating...


liquid Snake: Solid Snake defeated Liquid Snake on top of REX. a Man whom took down two F16 with a Hind chopper.

they both are equal in term of skills. but Since Solid Snake was fighting for saving Meryl . he was fighting more harder.


Now I can go on. but I believe I made my point


but just incase. Solid Snake at his old age has defeated Beauty and the Beast Unit, Vamp. AND Defeated liquid ocelot. IN MGS4


so I say again. Solid Snake can defeat Solidus Snake. if Raiden could whom is not in level in term skills and experience like snake.

I do not see why he can beat SOLIDUS SNAKE.


But something tell me. you really don"t care about this debate of whom would win on Solid Snake vs Solidus Snake. you just wanna be a HATER!!!

Solidus would handily win.

He's the only Snake who blocked machinegun fire in cut scenes. And from a Metal Gear Ray.

Originally posted by EmptyHearted
I know about metal gear Solid then you good sir. and NOW I KNOW WHOM I AM TALKING TOO.. you that Hater of metal gear Solid.






ohh by the way. You clam Vamp own Solid Snake? in MGS2? ok Solid Snake own vamp in MGS4 Pathetic, I owned you with the facts and now all you can do is repeat the same uneducated garbage that I already disproved. You know nothing about MGS which is why you thought that Mantis couldn't read Snake's mind.

Snake didn't own Vamp in MGS4 either, he injected him with a syringe and Raiden was the one who killed him. In MGS4 Snake got pwned by Ocelot instead


Originally posted by EmptyHearted
Vamp. AND Defeated liquid ocelot. IN MGS4 Raiden killed Vamp and Ocelot pwned Snake badly in MGS4, The only reason Snake won at the end was because of Foxdie killing Ocelot


Originally posted by EmptyHearted
Solid Snake can defeat Solidus Snake. Naw, Ocelot and Vamp already effortlessly owned Snake, Snake would end up with a sword in the face before he can pull the trigger.

Snake was wise to stay in the helicoptor terrified of Solidus, he knew he would of died if he went down there.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Solidus would handily win.

Except in the comic.

Originally posted by Rezactic
Pathetic, I owned you with the facts and now all you can do is repeat the same uneducated garbage that I already disproved. You know nothing about MGS which is why you thought that Mantis couldn't read Snake's mind.

Snake didn't own Vamp in MGS4 either, he injected him with a syringe and Raiden was the one who killed him. In MGS4 Snake got pwned by Ocelot instead


Raiden killed Vamp and Ocelot pwned Snake badly in MGS4, The only reason Snake won at the end was because of Foxdie killing Ocelot


Naw, Ocelot and Vamp already effortlessly owned Snake, Snake would end up with a sword in the face before he can pull the trigger.

Snake was wise to stay in the helicoptor terrified of Solidus, he knew he would of died if he went down there.


I am the one repeating myself?? and yet you keep lying and trying make your thing facts?

yes Solid Snake did defeat liquid Snake. before even foxdie. (You Failed)
Solid snake take down Vamp in Mgs4. he could had kill vamp if he had to chance. (You failed)

you said Solidus Snake would own snake? remind ya He could not own Raiden

Raiden by feats is better than Snake as well.

Originally posted by EmptyHearted
I am the one repeating myself?? and yet you keep lying and trying make your thing facts?

yes Solid Snake did defeat liquid Snake. before even foxdie. (You Failed)
Solid snake take down Vamp in Mgs4. he could had kill vamp if he had to chance. (You failed)

you said Solidus Snake would own snake? remind ya He could not own Raiden Jesus Christ the sheer stupidity of your post is cringe worthy. Then again you're the same guy who seems to think Snake is immune to telepathy so I wasn't expecting anything remotely intelligent to come out of your mouth

Who the hell said anything about Liquid Snake? I was talking about Ocelot, you know the villain in MGS4? He whooped Snake's ass in Act 3 by the Volta and Snake only beat him because of Foxdie at the end of the game. Get 3rd grade reading comprehension before you make another post

And you claim that Snake could of killed Vamp? Kind of like he could of in MGS2? When he was pinned up against the wall helpless and Raiden had to save him?

It's also funny how you keep insisting that Raiden is weaker when he has better feats than Snake does.

Put a little effort into your post next time. Or better yet play the game before you make any more uneducated post that I end having to correct, thanks.

Please continue to post though, watching you embarrass yourself over and over again is hilarious and well worth it.

Originally posted by Rezactic
Jesus Christ the sheer stupidity of your post is cringe worthy. Then again you're the same guy who seems to think Snake is immune to telepathy so I wasn't expecting anything remotely intelligent to come out of your mouth

Who the hell said anything about Liquid Snake? I was talking about Ocelot, you know the villain in MGS4? He whooped Snake's ass in Act 3 by the Volta and Snake only beat him because of Foxdie at the end of the game. Get 3rd grade reading comprehension before you make another post

And you claim that Snake could of killed Vamp? Kind of like he could of in MGS2? When he was pinned up against the wall helpless and Raiden had to save him?

It's also funny how you keep insisting that Raiden is weaker when he has better feats than Snake does.

Put a little effort into your post next time. Or better yet play the game before you make any more uneducated post that I end having to correct, thanks.

Please continue to post though, watching you embarrass yourself over and over again is hilarious and well worth it.

Insult me all you want. The fact is Solid Snake defeated mantis. whom is master of reading mind.

I mean Liquid Ocelot got defeated by old snake in hand to hand combat before Foxdie killed him.

and Yet Snake manages to put vamp on chokehold and ejected him with string. taken out his healing factor in MGS4

No way In HELL raiden is not in the same level as Solid Snake dude.

How about you play Metal gear solid HATERS!!!!

Originally posted by Rezactic
Jesus Christ the sheer stupidity of your post is cringe worthy. Then again you're the same guy who seems to think Snake is immune to telepathy so I wasn't expecting anything remotely intelligent to come out of your mouth

Who the hell said anything about Liquid Snake? I was talking about Ocelot, you know the villain in MGS4? He whooped Snake's ass in Act 3 by the Volta and Snake only beat him because of Foxdie at the end of the game. Get 3rd grade reading comprehension before you make another post

And you claim that Snake could of killed Vamp? Kind of like he could of in MGS2? When he was pinned up against the wall helpless and Raiden had to save him?

It's also funny how you keep insisting that Raiden is weaker when he has better feats than Snake does.

Put a little effort into your post next time. Or better yet play the game before you make any more uneducated post that I end having to correct, thanks.

Please continue to post though, watching you embarrass yourself over and over again is hilarious and well worth it.



THIS was never about debating. you were just here making Solid Snake look weaker I see you as RedMage86 on youtube. I see you here as Chozone

Like i said I know you whom you are. a HATER

requesting to close this thread.

If you have to ask me whom is the strongest son of Big boss

I would say this in order

Solid Snake
Liquid Snake
Solidus snake

Closed at the request of the thread starter.