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GLADIATOR VS WWH

Gladiator. Too many ways to win.

hulk breaks him while gladiator is all wide eyed that his opponent is so much stronger than last time, then gets cracked like a glow stick.

Hard fight. Both can amp their strength due to emotions and both can decrease in strength due to emotions.

lol

hulk's anger and fury will lower gladiator's conciousness.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
lol

hulk's anger and fury will lower gladiator's conciousness.

Its not that easy. You cant base one showing of Gladiator losing confidence with ALL of his showings.

screw confidence, that showing was an extreme drop cause of trickery, not from him losing confidence in himself from a beating which is not yet proven.

i'm saying he gets flat out beat down as hulk is stronger than he is, simple as that.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
screw confidence, that showing was an extreme drop cause of trickery, not from him losing confidence in himself from a beating which is not yet proven.

i'm saying he gets flat out beat down as hulk is stronger than he is, simple as that.

Stronger, Debatable since both of their strength work kind of the same. Both is based off of emotions and the more confident Gladiator is the stronger he gets, the more anger hulk gets, the stronger he gets.

I dont know what beating you are talking about with Gladiator , but ok.

well, thse two locked horns already, now just remember now that this hulk is far more capable than that one. the heat vision not defeating him last time won't do jack this time, it's like that for all hulk's previous stats where gladiator is the same.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, thse two locked horns already, now just remember now that this hulk is far more capable than that one. the heat vision not defeating him last time won't do jack this time, it's like that for all hulk's previous stats where gladiator is the same.

I thought it was pretty obvious that Gladiator didnt take that fight serious. The guy threw one punch the entire fight then after the punch he gets up and dust his uniform off.

What issue did they fight in?

Gladiator has been doing some big things lately. I think this would be a good fight, especially if Glads uses his more exotic powers in conjunction with his strength.

Hulk flat out him, like he would do to Superman

Yeah, this would be a planet shattering fight.

Gladiator is like Superman (almost) sans the weaknesses.

The dude practically has no weakness, just like Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Hulk flat out him, like he would do to Superman

Superman and Gladiator are two different characters. Gladiator can amp his strength just like WWH can.

The only reason Glads lost so badly is because he didnt take the fight serious (which is still his fault).

Glads.

WWH

WWH

Originally posted by carver9
Superman and Gladiator are two different characters. Gladiator can amp his strength just like WWH can.

The only reason Glads lost so badly is because he didnt take the fight serious (which is still his fault). No. In fact, they are as opposite as it can be.


Hulk strenght always grow, as long as he fight. And he doesn't fatigue.

Gladiator, seeing how he can't put down Hulk, after some hours of fight, will probably become weaker: because of fatigue, and because of the doubt.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman and Gladiator are two different characters. Gladiator can amp his strength just like WWH can.

The only reason Glads lost so badly is because he didnt take the fight serious (which is still his fault).

yeah, because superman never consciously amped his powers before...

Gladiator

Originally posted by carver9
Its not that easy. You cant base one showing of Gladiator losing confidence with ALL of his showings. We've seen Gladiator lose without his confidence level lowering. WW Hulk wins all day here.

Gladiator

Originally posted by brownqk
Gladiator How?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How?

BFR; I don't see Gladiator beating WWH in a slug feast, but fighting at full confidence and using all his powers, I can't see WWH resisting being BFR'ed by Gladiator who should be able to attack WWH in ways before he can react.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Hulk doesn't fatigue. He does

Originally posted by brownqk
BFR; I don't see Gladiator beating WWH in a slug feast, but fighting at full confidence and using all his powers, I can't see WWH resisting being BFR'ed by Gladiator who should be able to attack WWH in ways before he can react. Hulk has resisted a bfr from Gladiator before. It was also down Hulk who did so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk has resisted a bfr from Gladiator before. It was also down Hulk who did so.

I know, but I view that as PIS. Gladiator has punched a planet to pieces and effortlessly lifted a 35 story building before in a fight with Thor. In my view, there's no reason why he couldn't grab, lift and throw the Hulk (who doesn't even weigh all of a ton) into space except that the writers didn't want Gladiator to do so.

In a forum fight, however, I see no reason why he couldn't or wouldn't.

Originally posted by brownqk
I know, but I view that as PIS. Gladiator has punched a planet to pieces and effortlessly lifted a 35 story building before in a fight with Thor. In my view, there's no reason why he couldn't grab, lift and throw the Hulk (who doesn't even weigh all of a ton) into space except that the writers didn't want Gladiator to do so.

In a forum fight, however, I see no reason why he couldn't or wouldn't. Hulk can thunderclap him at a safe distance. If it were this easy to deal with the Hulk then WW Hulk was a waste of time.

I just don't see Glads winning a majority based on what already occurred to a weaker, less intelligent Hulk than this one.

Glads wins without PIS.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Glads wins without PIS. So we ignore the comics?

I actually think Gladiator should win, but WWH would win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So we ignore the comics? When a character that can move at warp speeds and destroys planets with punches doesn't knock a guy who weighs about half a ton into space yes, yes we do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We've seen Gladiator lose without his confidence level lowering. WW Hulk wins all day here.

this.

glads murders him. i see a FTL speed blitz punch tackle would seriously hurt hulk..

and he can continue to press his attack if the planet breaks up during their battle hulk is screwed.

like he did to a lesser hulk? or better yet, to ANY brick he's ever faced? his best ever blitz was against WM and he didn't even ko him, just buried him. wwh>>>>WM.

hulk murders him.

Originally posted by superbatman86
When a character that can move at warp speeds and destroys planets with punches doesn't knock a guy who weighs about half a ton into space yes, yes we do. This isn't cbr. Glads tried to do so and got his ass beat by a dumber Hulk. He gets annihilated here.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
glads murders him. i see a FTL speed blitz punch tackle would seriously hurt hulk..

and he can continue to press his attack if the planet breaks up during their battle hulk is screwed. You have to ignore how Glads is portrayed or how he fights to come to these conclusions.

Originally posted by leonidas
like he did to a lesser hulk? or better yet, to ANY brick he's ever faced? his best ever blitz was against WM and he didn't even ko him, just buried him. wwh>>>>WM.

hulk murders him.

yeah b/c him not allowed to fight at his best some how negates his fighting potential

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Originally posted by Wild Shadow
yeah b/c him not allowed to fight at his best some how negates his fighting potential

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lol

pretty original stuff. not a single one of him attacking a foe at lightspeed though. his REPEATED superspeed blows couldn't break sue's forcefield (should i show what thor and hulk have BOTH done to sue's shields?) and ANY battle he's ever had against a high level brick points to your 'he murders wwh' and laughs at it.

and what's this he wasn't allowed to fight at his best??? first off, crying PIS=lost the debate, bbut seriously, what are you talking about? not that classic radiation excuse again i hope. hulk beat him near to death before that 'reactor' ever came into play, as much as glads fans wish otherwise. he USED a speed blitz against hulk (ripped him into the atmosphere in a blink) and it failed miserably, and used his vision against a hulk with a FAR lesser healing factor than wwh and that nearly got his ass killed.

glads has this vast powerset that everyone always cites in his matches. alas, until he starts using that powerset to take down some legitmate top tiers, he's . . . just gladiator. cry PIS all you'd like though. it's all you'll have.

been fun.

I'm taking superman over hulk and that's not gonna change.

Glads via BFR, what can Hulk do against a Flying Tackle at Glads FASTEST flight speed. He should reach the sun in a couple of seconds, hulk weighs what..a ton maybe a little more, Glads wouldnt even register the weight as he flys.

Gladiator's going to take this. Too fast for Hulk to match.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't cbr. Glads tried to do so and got his ass beat by a dumber Hulk. He gets annihilated here.

You have to ignore how Glads is portrayed or how he fights to come to these conclusions. You honestly have no understanding of PIS do you?If a character has a power he doesn't use to his full ability in a fight so another character can win thats pis.Learn it and get over it.

Originally posted by superbatman86
You honestly have no understanding of PIS do you?If a character has a power he doesn't use to his full ability in a fight so another character can win thats pis.Learn it and get over it. What happens in comics and what happens in your mind are two totally different things. When you start ignoring the comics and accepting your views as reality delusional behavior takes root. Don't let it, brah.

WW Hulk stomps.

glads personality is to be ruthless and as you all can see more then enough speed tackle moments and comb blows to make a case as part of his standard attacks the problem only comes when he is forced to interact with lower and popular mainstream heroes..

glads also knows hulk since he has fought him in the past so he wont hold back and knows what he is dealing with.. which would give him even more reason to blitz him.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
glads personality is to be ruthless and as you all can see more then enough speed tackle moments and comb blows to make a case as part of his standard attacks the problem only comes when he is forced to interact with lower and popular mainstream heroes..

glads also knows hulk since he has fought him in the past so he wont hold back and knows what he is dealing with.. which would give him even more reason to blitz him. Glads was trying to kill him the first time and Hulk beat him. A smarter Hulk who is stronger crushes him.

he didnt go in trying to kill him off the bat.. he when in their underestimating him and he soon realized hulk was a danger and would need to be killed.. then the pis began thunder clapped him in the ears, inability to get him to space at the speed of light... power reactor radiation... then hulk somehow able to block heat vision with his hand even though his chest was exposed by the same heat vision..


gladz has taken blackbolt whisper to the ear without little if any injury kept on fighting.. he has taken supreme to space in the space of one panel.. he was able to engage either supreme or hyperion at superspeed combo fighting in a space of a moment....

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he didnt go in trying to kill him off the bat.. he when in their underestimating him and he soon realized hulk was a danger and would need to be killed.. hulk then the pis began thunder clapped him in the ears, inability to get him to space in at the speed of light... power reactor radiation... then hulk someone able to block heat vision with his hand even though his chest was exposed by the same heat vision..


gladz has taken blackbolt whisper to the ear without little if any injury kept on fighting.. he has taken supreme to space in the space of one panel.. he was able to engage either supreme or hyperion at superspeed combo fighting in a space of a moment.... Glads has been practically killed by Masterson Thor before. That's terrible considering Hulk trades blow for blow with the real Thor. Hulk beat him once and will crush him when he's stronger and smarter.

thor(eric) had a magic hammer which he used repeatedly to attack gladz indirectly.. something hulk doesnt have.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Glads has been practically killed by Masterson Thor before. That's terrible considering Hulk trades blow for blow with the real Thor. Hulk beat him once and will crush him when he's stronger and smarter. Hulk has been one-shotted by the wrecker. Also gladiator would have killed the real thor if not for thor girls help. I want to ask you something.... Can this hulk beat supreme, superman, Evil Hyperion or Captain Marvel in your mind?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Glads was trying to kill him the first time and Hulk beat him. A smarter Hulk who is stronger crushes him.

Was Gladiator using his powers to their fullest extent?

I think the entire comic reading population knows the answer, after all we actually saw him on panel, as opposed to a blur of movement.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
thor(eric) had a magic hammer which he used repeatedly to attack gladz indirectly.. something hulk doesnt have. Hulk has withstood blow for blow from the hammer. Glads was almost beaten to death by a noob with a few uncontested shots from it.

Glads was also owned by a hv blast redirected in his face which the Hulk was taking while in a weakened state.

Originally posted by GLADIATOR2099
Hulk has been one-shotted by the wrecker. Also gladiator would have killed the real thor if not for thor girls help. I want to ask you something.... Can this hulk beat supreme, superman, Evil Hyperion or Captain Marvel in your mind? This is WW Hulk. The only reason he had Thor on the ropes is he turned back into a human and took it easy on him. Once he didn't he stomped a mudhole in him.Originally posted by Juk3n
Was Gladiator using his powers to their fullest extent?

I think the entire comic reading population knows the answer, after all we actually saw him on panel, as opposed to a blur of movement. I believe he was. I have never seen Gladiator fight like some claim he can fight. He was out to kill the Hulk and was trying a couple of different things and Hulk avoided them all.

Without PIS Hulk loses badly to a lot of characters.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Without PIS Hulk loses badly to a lot of characters. So Gladiator doesn't fight in character and we just use powersets?

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i see the same would have happen to hulk.. eric isnt thor he isnt stupid he uses more then just his fist and brawling in his fights.

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Originally posted by Wild Shadow
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i see the same would have happen to hulk.. eric isnt thor he isnt stupid he uses more then just his fist and brawling in his fights.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9766/89839649vm2.jpg What would happen to Hulk? We've seen Hulk take on Thor and Glads and neither has been the same as Glads versus either.

WWH is smart and would make Glads doubt himself as the blows aren't enough to kill him and Hulk just gets stronger.

The madder Hulk gets the more Glads doubts himself.

Originally posted by superbatman86
You honestly have no understanding of PIS do you?If a character has a power he doesn't use to his full ability in a fight so another character can win thats pis.Learn it and get over it.

Oh he understands it, you just have to realize he's bias. Gladiator didn't put much effort into that fight at all and convenient things pop up in that fight that allowed Hulk to win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What happens in comics and what happens in your mind are two totally different things. When you start ignoring the comics and accepting your views as reality delusional behavior takes root. Don't let it, brah.

WW Hulk stomps.

Lol. Coming from you, this is funny. Anyways, Gladiator knocks Hulk's head off.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I believe he was. I have never seen Gladiator fight like some claim he can fight. He was out to kill the Hulk and was trying a couple of different things and Hulk avoided them all.

You believe that in the Gladiator / Hulk fight, Gladiator was moving at his fastest speed he could possibly maintain? You believe he was hitting Hulk with th planet shattering punches we've seen him break PLANETS with?

I dont think we saw any of that in the fight, could you point them out to me?

best of glads ability and WWH is toast

If Gladiator would fight with all his power, using strength and his amazing speed, he could probably put WWH down.

Otherwise, WWH.

anyone think Gladz could slice through hulk if he flew through him?

how fast would he need to fly in order to go through hulk?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
anyone think Gladz could slice through hulk if he flew through him?

With the strength and speed he has, I think he should be able to do it.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
If it were this easy to deal with the Hulk then WW Hulk was a waste of time.


World War Hulk WAS a waste of time

Originally posted by Juk3n
You believe that in the Gladiator / Hulk fight, Gladiator was moving at his fastest speed he could possibly maintain? You believe he was hitting Hulk with th planet shattering punches we've seen him break PLANETS with?

I dont think we saw any of that in the fight, could you point them out to me? No, I believe Gladiator was fighting in character to win at all costs and it wasn't enough.

feats like that are nice and dandy but when these characters match up Hulk isn't losing a head when Glads connects with his fists and vice versa.Originally posted by K Von Doom
World War Hulk WAS a waste of time Iyo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I believe Gladiator was fighting in character to win at all costs and it wasn't enough.

feats like that are nice and dandy but when these characters match up Hulk isn't losing a head when Glads connects with his fists and vice versa. Iyo.

You say he was fighting to win at all costs, but he wasnt punching his hardest...or moving his fastest (or as fast as we have seen him fight since...) your logic is not sound, you cannot proceed along this train of thought, for that way madness lay.

Originally posted by Juk3n
You say he was fighting to win at all costs, but he wasnt punching his hardest...or moving his fastest (or as fast as we have seen him fight since...) your logic is not sound, you cannot proceed along this train of thought, for that way madness lay. I think he waspunching his hardest he just wasn't flying at top speeds. Superman rarely flys into someone at top speeds either.

Glads was fighting in character and lost. If we ignore how he fights and just go by powersets that is where madness surely lay. That is the way of cbr.

Originally posted by carver9
Stronger, Debatable since both of their strength work kind of the same. Both is based off of emotions and the more confident Gladiator is the stronger he gets, the more anger hulk gets, the stronger he gets.

I dont know what beating you are talking about with Gladiator , but ok.

I am not saying that WWH is stronger then Gladiator but his base strength is pretty high. He was able to pull an entire planet back together in his weak state before his wife died. Keep in mind that when his wife died he became more enrange then he ever been before.