nWo 4 Life?

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Bat Dude
Hey all, it's me again.

BEFORE MOST OF YOU RIP THIS INTO SEVERAL TINY PIECES AND THEN PROCEED TO LIGHT THEM ON FIRE, PLEASE NOTE THAT I'M NOT CLAIMING THIS IS TRUE, I'M MERELY LOOKING FOR OTHER OPINIONS

I'm a huge wrestling fan. And I have been since my childhood. Well, anyway, one of my favorites from back in the day was a wrestling company called WCW, then owned by Ted Turner. WCW had this great group called the nWo, featuring tons of popular wrestlers like "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan, "Big Sexy" Kevin Nash, "The Bad Guy" Scott Hall, etc.

The first red flag is the name. The name itself represents the idea. They originally came to be when Hulk Hogan, then thought of as the ultimate "say your prayers, drink your milk, eat your vitamins" good guy, turns on his friends and joins the cooler, hipper "bad guys". He called the group "the New World Order in professional wrestling". Their main objective? To take over and dominate WCW. What does the New World Order theory claim to be the main objective? To take over and dominate the entire world.

The next red flag is the hand sign. Here is professional wrestler Sean Waltman (who, ironically, used the stage name 'Syxx' {pronounced as 'Six'} when he was a member of the nWo) flashing the nWo hand sign:
http://www.nwo4life.com/nwo/wolf-syxx.jpg

The next red flag: They used to use a sound bite that says "We are in control." This might seem like typical wrestling talk in this context, but it comes from a segment on PPV that had Eric Bischoff (then president of WCW and on-screen member of the nWo) standing behind a podium like a politician saying "We are in control." I don't know, but it has a weird vibe to it, for me, watching it now:
You can see it here at 3:45.

Another red flag is the "paid announcements" they'd run on WCW's television show "Monday Nitro". Here's a typical nWo paid announcement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni7SSeN-7Kk

The things that strike me most about it is the very "propaganda style" of the whole thing and the idea of "learn to love it. Change is inevitable." This can easily be explained by saying it's their "gimmick" but it can also be something else.

The final red flag is the fact that this all occurred in a company owned by Ted Turner. Ted has been linked to this kind of stuff.

The scary thing is that they were quite possibly the most over (wrestling term for popular) guys in the company. And this is during a time when professional wrestling was REALLY mainstream. The whole audience would do the hand sign and buy the shirts and eat this stuff up. Including me. That's why I think this is possible.

The wrestlers themselves are totally innocent. I believe that they were just given a script, and they ran with it. I don't think they have any knowledge of the subject.

Again, I'm not saying I'm right. This could VERY easily be merely the "gimmick" that the guys ran with. I was just recently reminiscing about those glory days of my childhood, but the nWo seems very strange when you look at it from the perspective of a "conspiracy theorist", doesn't it?

Any other thoughts? (Not including derogatory comments, please)

Symmetric Chaos
The way that most people know about NWO practices is through the filter of conspiracy theorists. It's entirely possible that they were aping those beliefs.

Second, I don't know where this idea that The Horns is a NWO symbol. Most people I know associate it with Rock and Metal music (probably because Rock and Metal performers use the gesture). Unless, of course, the NWO's real goal is to sell music.

The Nuul
Next is UFC 4 Life!!!

Deano

Symmetric Chaos

Bat Dude
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The way that most people know about NWO practices is through the filter of conspiracy theorists. It's entirely possible that they were aping those beliefs.

Second, I don't know where this idea that The Horns is a NWO symbol. Most people I know associate it with Rock and Metal music (probably because Rock and Metal performers use the gesture). Unless, of course, the NWO's real goal is to sell music.

Well, the horns are from all of this:
http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/answers/theoddfellows/images/theoddfellows.jpg

http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/beatles_satan_signs.jpg

http://www.letsrollforums.com/Blog/popesignbig.jpg

http://www.lovethetruth.com/nwo/mcdonalds-sign.jpg

There's more, but I really don't feel like linking to it. You can find it online if you're feeling adventurous.

Symmetric Chaos
That simply proves that many people use the gesture, not that is has something to do with the NWO.

Bat Dude
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That simply proves that many people use the gesture, not that is has something to do with the NWO.

But look at the actual people using it. Those are famous/powerful/influential people, all using a hand sign that is also used by this guy for a very Satanic purpose:

http://www.forgenerations.net/signs/images/laveyandpriestess.jpg

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Bat Dude
But look at the actual people using it. Those are famous/powerful/influential people, all using a hand sign that is also used by this guy for a very Satanic purpose:

http://www.forgenerations.net/signs/images/laveyandpriestess.jpg

That's a logical fallacy known as cum hoc ergo propter hoc. You can argue with equal validity that LaVey was a great musician because both he and the Beatles have been seen to use the sign.

Deano
i believe a lot of people do the sign just to be cool. doesnt mean they are involved in satanic activity

The Nuul
People use this symbol for different reasons.

Wei Phoenix
nWo used it for the Wolf Pack

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
nWo used it for the Wolf Pack


it's still being used in TNA

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
it's still being used in TNA

I know. WWE doesn't own the Wolf Pack sign.

jaden101
Dont forget the main man...Paulie Gaultieri.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GmWxIjl9_yo/Rm2J5p1M8qI/AAAAAAAAAX8/PLdXJD28F7M/s400/paulie.jpg

Robtard
LoL, what that cat could do with a baseball bat.

Notice how the gray on his head looks like the horns of the devil? Conspriracy!

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I know. WWE doesn't own the Wolf Pack sign.


TNA is very funny every time i watch

The Nuul
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I know. WWE doesn't own the Wolf Pack sign.

WTF? who said anything about the WWE?

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by The Nuul
WTF? who said anything about the WWE?

Bruce mentioned how the Wolf Pack sign is still being used in TNA, I assumed that he meant that the sign doesn't mean Wolf Pack, but upon second glance I may be wrong, but I responded with the fact that WWE doesn't own the Wolf Pack sign and Nash is free to use it wherever he goes to wrestle for.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
But look at the actual people using it. Those are famous/powerful/influential people, all using a hand sign that is also used by this guy for a very Satanic purpose:

http://www.forgenerations.net/signs/images/laveyandpriestess.jpg

That's not the same way X-Pac did the sign, nor the way the Wolf Pack did it.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Deano
i believe a lot of people do the sign just to be cool. doesnt mean they are involved in satanic activity

yeah I agree,politicians like Clinton and Bush when they do it,i would say beware of that politician,people should know how corrupt and evil those two guys are,but when musicians and other do it,I dont think they know the real meaning behind it all.after all Paul Mccartney and John Lennon are decent people.Lennon especially since he was against big government.

Bat Dude
Originally posted by Mr Parker
yeah I agree,politicians like Clinton and Bush when they do it,i would say beware of that politician,people should know how corrupt and evil those two guys are,but when musicians and other do it,I dont think they know the real meaning behind it all.after all Paul Mccartney and John Lennon are decent people.Lennon especially since he was against big government.

Parker, no offense, but you've gotta be kidding me.

What was Imagine, then? I consider it a very blatant theme song for the New Age movement, which was created by the New World Order.

You should know that a lot of musicians and artists and actors and athletes are just pawns in the game. Look at Jay-Z, Lady GaGa, the Beatles, and tons of others. Being from Cleveland, it pains me to say this, but I'm starting to think LeBron James can be added to that list, as well.

And while I think there are a lot more who are completely ignorant, such as a lot of rock and metal bands and such, the cold facts are that this was a company owned by Ted Turner, and a wrestling group called "The New World Order", and they just-so-happened to be using the hand sign. Now maybe I'm speaking out of place, but isn't that just a little weird?

Robtard
Originally posted by Bat Dude

What was Imagine, then? I consider it a very blatant theme song for the New Age movement, which was created by the New World Order.


John also wasn't killed, the assassination was staged. He was recalled back into the fold; he'll likely resurface again coverlty in the next 10-20 years, if he hasn't already. He's definitly a key player.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Bat Dude
What was Imagine, then?

Fair question, all is well happy

Originally posted by Bat Dude
I consider it a very blatant theme song for the New Age movement

Hmm, yeah in many ways I agree, good point hmm

Originally posted by Bat Dude
which was created by the New World Order.

Wait...what? What the f**k?

Originally posted by Bat Dude
You should know that a lot of musicians and artists and actors and athletes are just pawns in the game. Look at Jay-Z, Lady GaGa, the Beatles, and tons of others. Being from Cleveland, it pains me to say this, but I'm starting to think LeBron James can be added to that list, as well.


HOLY **** BATSHIT INSANE AHHHHHHH ha-son

Parmaniac
The Illuminati just called, they got a new sign
http://bikevinyl.com/images/uploads/shocker-2.jpg

Kinasin

Classic NES
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
nWo used it for the Wolf Pack

Swe~et.

Darth Piggott

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