Originally posted by Blanket
Um, I asked when he's caught missiles, and flying foes. Although moreso missiles.
I never disregarded it. I just said that's it funny you're the one arguing with that example. Which I still don't understand.. What's so funny about it?
Anyways, I don't have issue numbers off the top of my head but I'll hunt for it should this garbage continue.
Originally posted by Blanket
I'd imagine Gamora to be harder to catch than Godzilla... That's not quite what I was getting at... Stretch made himself the size of a small skyscraper... That's something I'm thinking Gamora would be having a hard time avoiding.
Originally posted by Blanket
I'm not arguing that he can't hold her (although that could be up for debate), I'm just saying she'll be pretty damn hard to catch this way, even without fighting back. Again... the size of a small building.... I really don't think she be able to do much to avoid it...
Originally posted by Blanket
Right. Except she'll be actively attacking while also evaded. Therefore moving at all times. Her strength mixed with her MA are more than enough to hurt Reed based on what I've seen.
Depends on howmuch CIS Reed's going to be imploring in the fight... We've already seen that his powers are able to compensate for explosions and she doesn't hit harder than that.
Originally posted by Blanket
And Wolverine to my knowledge was trying to pierce Reed with claw slashes he did it with numerous blows while Wolverine was standing in one place, and while Reed kept stretching so he wouldn't get cut... a little different. Iirc, Wolverine was also standing in one spot too when he balled Wolverine up. Although my mind just might have made that second example up. Wolverine couldn't hurt Reed with claws made to cut through anything, but a MA strike is going to?
Originally posted by Blanket
Not in there.
Sorry, links are broken.
Anyways, it's when Spidey goes to take Brock off of his little island, bringing Torch with some FF tech to help in case Venom goes nuts.. which he promptly did and grab Storm by the neck with his symbiote throwing him into the ocean... HT used an imni-directional blast WHILE submerged in WATER to get the symbiote off of him.
Originally posted by Blanket
I'm just using his mindset. And everytime I've seen a nova, it's been an attack that's been directed. I never pretended he couldn't do it, I simply asked for scans. You're just flying off the handle probably because of the recent Wolverine vs Gamora thread, since I find it hard for you to be in this thread any other way.
WOW...... ooooookay.....
Well for one, you're need for proof of something that should be easy for HT to do, that he's done a few times in a his career definitely implies that you think he can't do it.
Two, I'm hardly flying off the handle here.
And three, I came into this thread to see what kind of odds people were going to give Gamora against a team who have successfully engaged beings like a suped up cosmic powered Doom, Hulk, Ultron, and Gladiator....... Of course it's no surprise to see her getting the same goofy treatment she got in that thread with people giving her the benefit of the doubt to do something outside her capability to do, like you assuming she'll be able to actively evade the FF more successfully while they're gunning for her than Spiderman could when they were trying not to hurt him.
Originally posted by Blanket
Well, considering the only attack that should do anything to her would be a nova attack... Storm can up his casual attacks to 2 million degrees without much duress, he can burn up all the oxygen in her environment, he can dehydrate her at will, fire nets and torch clones can have her indisposed indefinitely.... Her ONLY recourse to any of his attacks is melee.... woopdido!
Originally posted by Blanket
No it wasn't. She only said she wouldn't have gotten past his massive fists had it not been for Sassy.
It wasn't some sort of super touch that only opens up if he's choking someone, it was his left boob, and that's it. This wasn't a Resident Evil boss battle. lol @ the res part..
Again not what I was getting at. I'm saying that the oppurtunity to hit that spot would not have clearly presented itself in a 1on1 fight with Thing as PER HER ADMISSION.
Originally posted by Blanket
And if you honestly think she couldn't have gotten past his massive fists, then I don't know what to say. She was simply giving credit to Sas, as the guy was held helpless. I'm only going by her OWN statement...
She might be able to fight Thing one on one but obviously one shotting him becomes a hell of a lot harder when he "actively fighting back" no?
I mean, I'm sure Punisher could take out Cap with a knive to the head, but how likely is that when Cap knows he's in for a fight?
Originally posted by Blanket
Because I'd be able to hit him harder. Take his shots. Throw him around, and generally make everything he could non existant.
I'm not missing the point, I'm basically stating that it's a flawed example.
If you think me being hundreds of times stronger than my current self is still half as strong as GSP, then I'm severely underrating him. Plus, apparently I'd have a brick in my hand at all times.
Going by the comic inclusion you're STILL MUCH weaker and less durable than GSP, and by RL inclusion have far less experience....
but yeah... you're skewing of the exmaple to this point means you pretty much ARE missing the point of it in the first place...
Again, you might be able to take someone out with one shot while their attention is turned away... when it's not, the likelyhood of you reproducing the same type of feat is dramatically reduced.
Not only is this just simply logical it's expanded upon AS PER HER ADMISSION.
Originally posted by Blanket
Your example also implies that Gamora can't beat Thing in a straight fight... I don't know what to say to that.
Between Reed apparently easily catching her, and conventional attacks from HT being problems for Gamora, I guess she really doesn't stand a chance.
Again, you DID miss the point of the example, as it had nothing to do with Gamora and Thing specifically...
In any case, I don't think she CAN'T beat him in a straight fight by any means, but you seem to be under the impression that Thing's a one shot walk in the park for her because of some already muddled example of what she can do to him when he's not looking. Yet logically, going by his career and her own admission we know that's simply not true.
Can she one shot someone who's preoccupied? Sure. But for Thing, a guy who has taken on (successfully) people like Thor, Namor, and Hulk, who has shown fighting prowess as a human to be close to that of early Logan level.... it's a rather hard pill to swallow to think she's just going to stroll past Thing like nothing.. and moreso in a group fight setting.
Though you are right about one thing.. given this thread, she doesn't stand a chance.
