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Batman
Nightwing
Red Robin
Batgirl (Cass)
Batgirl (Stephanie Brown)

vs

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Wolverine

Buncha dead bats.

Bat family. His mindset makes him more dangerous but it doesn't make him any faster or anything. They're still going to take him down.

so you dont think with nothing but an animalistic mind and instincts wont make him faster then his normal mode? sigh... also more then likely he will also go into a pure bloodlust berserker rage..

the bat family is not walking alway from this unless they can all shoot him up with massive lvl's of tranqz and hope his rage and mental mind set doesnt offset his immunity to such attacks..

other then that weapon X will steam roll right through them and might take his time on the last surviving member out of a warped sense of curiosity or playing with him or her.

Originally posted by Q99
Bat family. His mindset makes him more dangerous but it doesn't make him any faster or anything. They're still going to take him down.

How would they take him down?

KO?

Nerve Strikes?

He's tanked all that stuff before, they don't have anything that can help them win.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
so you dont think with nothing but an animalistic mind and instincts wont make him faster then his normal mode? sigh... also more then likely he will also go into a pure bloodlust berserker rage..

Not *that* much faster, he can go pretty darn fast anyway.

The big advantage of him in this state is he'll ignore pain. It's fighting on pure instinct without thinking.



Absolutely not. Even if you think he'll win in the end, Bruce and Cass and Nightwing and Red Robin can, working as a unit, outfight him for a significant period.



I don't think he can break out of batcuffs if they get them on him. As long as he can't claw them, they're designed to hold the super-strong. Throw in tying him up with super-strong jump cables too, and whatever else they have on them (Freeze's tech?).

yeah the only one i give a chance of seeing and keeping up with logan and the teams saving grace and not being complete sitting ducks when lohgan starts to superspeed blitz ninja vanish is cassie actually being able to see or anticipate his attack.. bats can also anticipate certain attacks and use his gadgets but the rest without cassie and bats tactical mindset would fold faster then shang chi with he tried to fight logan.

He's fast, I doubt he's too fast for *any* of them to see (well, maybe Steph). They're the freakin' bad family.

Originally posted by Q99
Bat family. His mindset makes him more dangerous but it doesn't make him any faster or anything. They're still going to take him down. He's already faster than any bat member!

Originally posted by BattleMage
He's already faster than any bat member!

By, at most, a small amount (and Cass is way more agile). And that's not changing much, they're the same muscles.

Small speed differences do not make for leaving in the dust.

Originally posted by Q99
(and Cass is way more agile).

No.

logan is already able to disappear from betsy's ability to view him other then a blur and unable to get a lock on him in full speed combat mode..

some how i dont see the bat family being that fast..

logan has also gone full blitz battle mode and lift after images and blurs while parrying countering and blocking attacks from from X23 who is actual legitimate superhuman speed in comics and in guides..

Originally posted by Q99
Bat family. His mindset makes him more dangerous but it doesn't make him any faster or anything. They're still going to take him down.

Actually you're wrong.

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Anyone remember the incident where Wolverine hid in plane site against Nightcrawler in a training exercise? Pretty bad ass.

i recall logan vanishing right in front of nightcrawler and nightcrawler approaching to investigate just to have logan come out of nowhere and pin him to the ground... but i see him doing to the bat family what he did to the Genesis and his Darkriders and that is killing them all plucking them out one by one pure animal stalking tactics and inborn speed and stealth..

The biggest consideration is that Wolverine in this state will be actively trying to kill his opponents. This makes him a different beast than the Wolverine who normally fights streets, because he won't actively be pulling his punches or avoid going for the sweet spot. Every attack he makes will be with the intention of killing his target, and any attack he manages to land will be devastating. A single swing of his claws will cleanly cleave through any and all of his opponents in the arch.

His healing factor greats him near instantaneous recovery time which means he can step into the fallow through gap on any attack they landed on him and hit a defenseless opponent. A single swing of his claws will cleanly cleave through any and all of his opponents in the arch.

Wolverine is going to get his ass kicked for the first 5 minutes, but after that the fight will start to swing more and more in his favour as time progresses. He can pretty much tank anything the Batfamily can throw at him, and virtually any thing he does in retaliation will be devastating.

the only thing i see saving the batfamily here would be prep

weapon x will not be stopped!

I don't see how Bats and the gang can win.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Anyone remember the incident where Wolverine hid in plane site against Nightcrawler in a training exercise? Pretty bad ass.

Wolverine virtually vanishes, five feet in front of Nightcrawler... In broad daylight beating him in another training excercise.
1. http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6018/wolverinedissapearsak5.jpg
2. http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2667/wolverinedissapears2bf2.jpg


Q99 you are just wrong.