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Reed
Sue
Johnny
Ben
Namor


Vs.

Batman
WW
MM
Flash
Aqua Man


1) random encounter in dc universe

2) fight in marvel universe ( no speed force in MU. Flash uses a storage pack like he did in JLA/Avengers crossover)

3) fight takes place in nuetral alternate universe( speed force present) each
team has 3 days prep.

No.

The FF wins the prep scenario. They lose the other ones.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The FF wins the prep scenario. They lose the other ones.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The FF wins the prep scenario. They lose the other ones.


Agreed on the first and the seconded but on the seconded part, they lose badly.

JLA Wins in either universe no-prep, lose with prep. Unless Batman sabotages the F4's prep...

JLA all scenarios

Originally posted by The Nuul
Agreed on the first and the seconded but on the seconded part, they lose badly.
Do the FF have any tp immunity? Because there are two tps on the JLA side, one of which could probably take on virtually any telepath in Marvel.

Jla in all scenarios

How are the JLA winning the prep scenario? With 3 days reed can do most anything...

1 JLA in a second

2 JLA in 3 seconds

3 FF Reed owns TP dampening devices on all characters.

Because three days prep is not enough to handle someone withbaccess to the speed force

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The FF wins the prep scenario. They lose the other ones.

JLA all the way with scenario 3 being the only close battle.

JLA wins in all situations.

People like to use the argument that Reed can do anything with prep. It's simply not true, without the power of plot and Deus Ex Machina he cannot win here. It's a crutch that many people are using as basis for their argument.

1. With this 3 days prep do they get any info they want on their opponent?

2. Batman is nearly as dangerous with prep as Reed is. Although he doesn't have the pure scientific and mathematical genius, he easily trumps Reed in tactical and combat intelligence. Batman's plans will be fullproof and you can bet he'll have a monkey wrench to throw in Reed's plan, the man is prepared for anything and is considered possibly the most dangerous human on Earth by most DC villians.

3. Whatever Reed comes up with he is not going to have the time to even implement it possibly. There are 3 characters on the JLA team who operate at light speed or near it.

1: JLA
2: JLA
3: FF
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