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Who wins?

No chance

no....just no

These guys?
Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Argent, The Atom, Aztek, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Death's Head 3.0, Death Metal, Doomsday (DOS), Dr. Doom (U), Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Light II (Kimiyo Hoshi), Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Enchantress, Engineer, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Forerunner, Gammid, Gilgamesh, Gold Key Solar, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, Green Lantern (Soranik Natu), Guardian I (James Hudson), He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hercules (Immortal), Iceman, Invincible, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Kalibak, Kang, Krypto, Lightray, Living Monolith, Loki (Ultimate), Lunatik, Madison Jeffries (BOX IV), Magneto (U), Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Marrina (Leviathan), Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nimrod, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Plastic Man, Prime, Professor X, Raven, Ravenous, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Shadow King, Snowbird, Starhawk, Starman, Super Skrull, Stryfe, Superboy, Tempest, Thor (Ultimate), Ultra Boy, Ultra-Humanite, Ultron, Union, Vulcan, Wendigo, Winter, Witchfire (Normal), Zauriel

Surfer gets buttraped by a quarter of them while the other three quarters prepare a massive pancake breakfast to celebrate the victory.

Plenty of them have given him trouble alone, all of them together... no.

A lot of them will die if SS wants but SS loses this fight badly.

Also too many characters.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Plenty of them have given him trouble alone, all of them together... no.
If he had the help of Superman, Wonder Woman, Thor, and Gladiator then it might be a fight.

Hm.

How would this change if it were the high-meta one?

Still way too many characters.

Kang solos biscuits

Black Heart is Tier 4? Has he ever really shown impressive stuff on panel?

Sorry for off topic Phil

Surfer looses

Take CIS off for Surfer only then that might even the playing ground.

Surfer open up a black hole..that should wipe out most of them..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Surfer open up a black hole..that should wipe out most of them..
Yes but the ones that could survive (and there would be a small handful of those) would still be enough to beat Surfer.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes but the ones that could survive (and there would be a small handful of those) would still be enough to beat Surfer.

he open up a black hole inside of everyone that survive biscuits

He'd lose a direct engagement against either group, but I could see a hit and run/divide and conquer scenario where he could win. There's a lot of powers in the low herald tier that, when working in tandem, are greater than the individual parts. He'd have to whittle them down.

Originally posted by illadelph12
He'd lose a direct engagement against either group, but I could see a hit and run/divide and conquer scenario where he could win. There's a lot of powers in the low herald tier that, when working in tandem, are greater than the individual parts. He'd have to whittle them down.
In a hit and run, divide and conquer scenario there are a lot of beings that could take this group. Eventually. Some of them are weaker than Surfer.

But realistically Surfer stands no chance here.

The person in that group that is really messing Surfer up is Vulcan. He can make it so that none of Surfers energy attacks would ever hit the group. Take off CIS and get rid of Vulcan and we have a fight here.

I saw "He-Man" in that list and stopped reading.

Surfer loses.

Also, why is Apocalypse considered a low herald?

vin

You mean he should be high meta?

Originally posted by Bentley
You mean he should be high meta?
Street-level peaches

People underestimate ultimate Loki. The only known limit on his powers are his imagination and limits placed on him by Odin. That being sai

Originally posted by amnesia
People underestimate ultimate Loki. The only known limit on his powers are his imagination and limits placed on him by Odin. That being sai
Lol, Loki wank.

Okay. Most agree SS loses. And there are too many characters. And you were too lazy to even list the tier.

Closed due to that laziness. sneer




But really closing.