Evil Mutants vs. Cosmics

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byrdgang21
Magneto
Juggernaut
Apocalypse(non jobbing)

Vs.

Nova
Beta Ray Bill
Black Bolt

Fight in an industrialized city on earth.

Please Discuss.

Black bolt z
CIS on mutants with ease.CIS off mutants are going to have their hands full.

Johnny Sorrow
Black Bolt is not a cosmic and Juggernaut is not a mutant.

Otherwise, I think Magneto may clinch it for Team 1.

TheTyrant
Team Apocalypse.

byrdgang21
How does Nova's gravity manipulation match up against Magneto' s magnetic powers. And what could out scream from black bolt do to apocalypse or Juggs.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by byrdgang21
How does Nova's gravity manipulation match up against Magneto' s magnetic powers. And what could out scream from black bolt do to apocalypse or Juggs. Couldn't novas grav manip be used on juggs?Then beta could take on magneto and BB apoc?That seems more even.but still edge to evils.

Konton
Cosmics.

Johnny Sorrow
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Couldn't novas grav manip be used on juggs?Then beta could take on magneto and BB apoc?That seems more even.but still edge to evils.

You would send a cyborg with a metal hammer against Magneto?

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
You would send a cyborg with a metal hammer against Magneto? Fine magneto against BB against and BRB against apoc.

byrdgang21
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Couldn't novas grav manip be used on juggs?Then beta could take on magneto and BB apoc?That seems more even.but still edge to evils.

It could slow Juggs down considerably but I doubt it would completely stop him. But IMO the space guys have a better range of attacks. Thats why I think its close.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by byrdgang21
It could slow Juggs down considerably but I doubt it would completely stop him. But IMO the space guys have a better range of attacks. Thats why I think its close. I'm not talking about stoping.He could have juggs keep running but make him run on air.

byrdgang21
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'm not talking about stoping.He could have juggs keep running but make him run on air.

Oh I see what you mean. Like for Nova to just decrease the gravity so much around Juggs that he starts to float. I guess that's possible but I would imagine that it would take a lot of power from Nova to do that to Juggs and that eventually he would come down.

But good idea tho... that's kinda like what Skaar did to Juggs when they fought.

Blanket
Juggernaut is not really evil, a mutant, or a cosmic.
Magneto is not really evil.
Apocalypse's rule of survival of the fittest is also a rule Living Tribunal abides by... so there's that.
BB could be considered more of a mutant than a cosmic here.
BRB has like two stories showing him being in cosmic stories.

I just can't focus with these little mishaps. Boy oh boy.

JakeTheBank
Team Quasi-Cosmic

Bouboumaster
Cosmic and HARD.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Cosmic and HARD. No...

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Blanket

BRB has like two stories showing him being in cosmic stories.


He's got more than two stories. You're forgetting his run as part of the Star Masters and that incident with Tyrant.

Cosmics take this. Black Bolt can take out Magneto. His matter manipulation powers and voice is more than enough to beat Magneto. Nova removes Juggernaut with gravity beams the way Nimrod did. Beta Ray tears Apocalypse apart.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
He's got more than two stories. You're forgetting his run as part of the Star Masters and that incident with Tyrant.

Cosmics take this. Black Bolt can take out Magneto. His matter manipulation powers and voice is more than enough to beat Magneto. Nova removes Juggernaut with gravity beams the way Nimrod did. Beta Ray tears Apocalypse apart. So beat juggs with BFR?

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Black bolt z
So beat juggs with BFR?

Yes. Or they remove his helmet and mindrape him. Black Bolt can do that.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Yes. Or they remove his helmet and mindrape him. Black Bolt can do that. BB can mindrape?Since when?

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Black bolt z
BB can mindrape?Since when?

Ever since he mindraped Maximus. He's done it twice.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Ever since he mindraped Maximus. He's done it twice. Scans please.

WhiteWitchKing
Maximus
http://img227.exs.cx/img227/623/ment9bn.jpg

Maximus again
http://img102.exs.cx/img102/9812/max57np.jpg

Another feat
http://img222.exs.cx/img222/2914/mind2fu.jpg
http://img220.exs.cx/img220/663/mind26to.jpg

Respect Thread
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=370432&highlight=black+bolt+forumid:98

Black bolt z
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Maximus
http://img227.exs.cx/img227/623/ment9bn.jpg

Maximus again
http://img102.exs.cx/img102/9812/max57np.jpg

Another feat
http://img222.exs.cx/img222/2914/mind2fu.jpg
http://img220.exs.cx/img220/663/mind26to.jpg

Respect Thread
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=370432&highlight=black+bolt+forumid:98 Only one I really saw that was mindrape was the 3rd and that was just kind of going into his mind.There a difference between getting in their head and destroying them from within.

TheTyrant
Apocalypse grows to be 10000 feet tall and crushes Black Bolt. Mags handles Nova, Juggernaut holds off Ray, untill the other two arrive and stomp his ass.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse grows to be 10000 feet tall and crushes Black Bolt. Mags handles Nova, Juggernaut holds off Ray, untill the other two arrive and stomp his ass. BB talks and kills apoc...

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Black bolt z
BB talks and kills apoc...

Apoc has already shrugged of his scream.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apoc has already shrugged of his scream. scans please...

galactusischere
Originally posted by Black bolt z
scans please...

Didn't I already tell you in which issue that happened in?

Team mutants, though only one of them is truly 'evil'.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apoc has already shrugged of his scream.

By tapping into Cable. Bill stomps him.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
By tapping into Cable. Bill stomps him.

And what does Cable's power add to Apocalypse?

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by TheTyrant
And what does Cable's power add to Apocalypse?

More power? That would be obvious wouldn't it? He didn't survive that without assist.

JakeTheBank
lol Bill would wreck Apoc.

Mindset
Originally posted by TheTyrant
And what does Cable's power add to Apocalypse? Do you know how strong Cable is?

galactusischere
edit.

D_Dude1210
What the heck is Juggernaight gonna do??? Everyone here can fly except him... :-/

Black bolt z
Originally posted by galactusischere
Didn't I already tell you in which issue that happened in?

Team mutants, though only one of them is truly 'evil'. Yes.Then someone posted a scan of it.It showed apoc like 50 ft tall.it then showed BB with his mouth open which the scan poster thought was him screaming.BB has never spoken to apoc.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Mindset
Do you know how strong Cable is?

Not more powerful than Apocalypse, that's for sure.

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by Black bolt z
No...

No? Who in team Mutant can stop Beta Ray Bill? Only Juggernaut would resist him.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
No? Who in team Mutant can stop Beta Ray Bill? Only Juggernaut would resist him.

Magneto would murder Bill. Bill is a cyborg with a hammer made of iron. Apoc handles Nova, while Juggs BB.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by byrdgang21
How does Nova's gravity manipulation match up against Magneto' s magnetic powers. And what could out scream from black bolt do to apocalypse or Juggs.



I thought Black Bolt's electron manipulation messed with Magneto's powers in one of their past encounters.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Magneto would murder Bill. Bill is a cyborg with a hammer made of iron. Apoc handles Nova, while Juggs BB.




If Mjolnir can own Mags, BRB should have no problem using Stormbreaker to do the same.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
If Mjolnir can own Mags, BRB should have no problem using Stormbreaker to do the same.

Except Magneto can and has shown the ability to control Thor's hammer.

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