Superman Vs. The Rise of Apocalypse

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galactusischere
Superman is stripped of all his powers minus his fighting capacity and is back in time to 3000 BC. He is recruited by the pharaoh to fight and kill En Sabah Nur who was also stripped of all his powers.

Some Apoc feats...
http://img213.imageshack.us/i/page08lc2.jpg/
http://img213.imageshack.us/i/page09or3.jpg/
http://img213.imageshack.us/i/page10bd9.jpg/
http://img208.imageshack.us/i/page11fo5.jpg/

CIS and PIS are off.
Bloodlust is on.

Who wins?

Bentley
So pretty much powerless Apoc and Supes with arcaic weapons, right?

galactusischere
Originally posted by Bentley
So pretty much powerless Apoc and Supes with arcaic weapons, right?

Both are weaponless.

Bouboumaster
I say Superman.

Apocalypse is a badass, but it was 3000 years ago.

The art of fighting evolved since then, and Sups got some trainings for Batman, a dude who master I-don't-know-how-many-styles. Even if he's faaaar from the Bat when it comes to skills, it should be enough to outwrestle him.

Colossus-Big C
apocalypse stomps

JakeTheBank
Superman.

Colossus-Big C
apocalypse wins

Bentley
Superman beats his ass with a nerve pinch!

psycho gundam
this is stupid

TheTyrant
Apocalypse stomps. There is no way Superman of all people would be able to match RoA Apocalypse.

Bentley
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse stomps. There is no way Superman of all people would be able to match RoA Apocalypse.


He has no powers.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Bentley
He has no powers.

Neither does Superman.

JakeTheBank
Those scans, while impressive, don't really show anything leagues beyond Superman's capabilities. Him "stomping" is going to happen.

Bentley
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Neither does Superman.


Yep, but Superman is good hand to hand. Not uber, but still quite good.

Colossus-Big C
apocalypse stomps

TheTyrant
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Those scans, while impressive, don't really show anything leagues beyond Superman's capabilities. Him "stomping" is going to happen.

Superman has no MA skills other than a few pressure point attacks.

psycho gundam
facepalm

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Superman has no MA skills other than a few pressure point attacks.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
facepalm

TheTyrant
Originally posted by psycho gundam
facepalm

Really.

Has he done anything close to what the TS posted of Apocalypse doing?

Colossus-Big C
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/12/77%20Superman%20is%20a%20Perv.jpg

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/12/77%20Superman%20is%20a%20Perv.jpg

LMAO

Superman shows his true side.

Omega Vision
Superman.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
apocalypse stomps Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
apocalypse wins Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
apocalypse stomps
I wonder if this qualifies as spamming. mhmm

Wild Shadow
this is just sad on apoxy lips.. Even superman can kick the snot out of this version of apoxy

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
this is just sad on apoxy lips.. Even superman can kick the snot out of this version of apoxy
The Penguin could take some wins. stick out tongue

Wild Shadow
seriously doubt that i was thinking more along the lines of guys like tony stark maybe even possibly wildcat

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
seriously doubt that i was thinking more along the lines of guys like tony stark maybe even possibly wildcat
What do you mean "maybe even possibly Wildcat"?

You're not suggesting Tony Stark out of his armor is > Wildcat are you?

Bentley
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
seriously doubt that i was thinking more along the lines of guys like tony stark maybe even possibly wildcat

Wildcat would wtfpwn this version of Apoc.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Really.

Has he done anything close to what the TS posted of Apocalypse doing?

They don't exist. Good to know.

Apocalypse stomps. Batman would be a better match.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by TheTyrant
They don't exist. Good to know.

Apocalypse stomps. Batman would be a better match.

lol

Batman would straight up rape this Apoc in H2H.

Wild Shadow
Robin (tim drake) would be a better match for Apoxy lips if robin was allowed his bow staff..

Omega Vision
Originally posted by TheTyrant
They don't exist. Good to know.

Apocalypse stomps. Batman would be a better match.
Barbara Gordon as Batgirl would be a better match.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Robin (tim drake) would be a better match for Apoxy lips if robin was allowed his bow staff..
Lol. Apoc has nothing to suggest he could even beat unarmed Tim Drake

TheTyrant
He took on some of the best warriors his clan had to offer UNARMED. A clan of WARRIORS.

Superman would get pimp-slapped by Apocalypse as Thanos watches and learns.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by TheTyrant
He took on some of the best warriors his clan had to offer UNARMED. A clan of WARRIORS.

Superman would get pimp-slapped by Apocalypse as Thanos watches and learns.
Featless warriors.

Nothing that demonstrates he could beat Superman let alone stomp him.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Featless warriors.

Nothing that demonstrates he could beat Superman let alone stomp him.

Yes there is. He took on some of the best warriors of a warrior clan, unarmed. Powerless Superman would get chopped to pieces if he ever fought four armed civilians with 0 MA or fighting background.

Wild Shadow
those barbarians would be at lvl 4 at best but it is in a different time and different form of fighting..

guys like tim as a 15 16 yr old would have also bn a lvl 4 but he jumps around and uses agility rather then brute force..

apoxy lips isnt a joke he did take on some real warriors which would be above any random gang of thugs that guys like Moon Knight, cyclops famous blind fighting, Robin even powerless supes have taken on..

i am starting to think supes could lose this fight since Apoxy was pretty vicious and new how to use the terrain.. i am starting to thing if they were in the same situation as apoxy lips they would die

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Yes there is. He took on some of the best warriors of a warrior clan, unarmed. Powerless Superman would get chopped to pieces if he ever fought four armed civilians with 0 MA or fighting background.

Too bad Superman doesn't have 0 MA or fighting background. The man routinely trains with Diana and Bruce and the other members of the League. Superman, powerless, would wreck four armed civilians.

Bentley
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Yes there is. He took on some of the best warriors of a warrior clan, unarmed. Powerless Superman would get chopped to pieces if he ever fought four armed civilians with 0 MA or fighting background.


No he wouldn't.

Colossus-Big C
superman fights like a savage retard he would get rapestomped without the fancy powers

JakeTheBank
no expression

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
superman fights like a savage retard he would get rapestomped without the fancy powers
Says the person who's never read a single Superman comic start to finish.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Bentley
No he wouldn't.

He would get chopped to pieces. Show me a scan of powerless Supes doing anything remotely close to what Apocalypse did in RoA or it didn't happen.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
superman fights like a savage retard he would get rapestomped without the fancy powers

Good man.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by TheTyrant
He would get chopped to pieces. Show me a scan of powerless Supes doing anything remotely close to what Apocalypse did in RoA.
While depowered he wrecks some Parademons:
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/adventuresof426a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/adventuresof426b.jpg

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Omega Vision
While depowered he wrecks some Parademons:
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/adventuresof426a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/adventuresof426b.jpg

Nice. He had to ambush a bunch of jobber demons. What happened in the next scan?

Omega Vision
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Nice. He had to ambush a bunch of jobber demons. What happened in the next scan?
Parademons with wings and enhanced strength>featless cavemen

Wild Shadow
old school supes prior to one of his many retcons.. modern supes wouldnt do as well..

either way the closest modern supes i know of took down some street scum when he was depowered iirc it was when the sun was changed and even then he was still slightly powered not completely base line human.

the closest lvl of skill he displayed was about Guardian lvl

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
old school supes prior to one of his many retcons.. modern supes would do as well..

either way the closest modern supes i know of took down some street scum when he was depowered iirc it was when the sun was changed and even then he was still slightly powered not completely base line human.

the closest lvl of skill he displayed was about Guardian lvl
He trained with Batman for a month or two in the arts of street level crime fighting.

Wild Shadow
yeah but modern depowered supes is not taking on a parademon now.

training with bats doesnt mean he is as good or close to being a moderate street lvler..

he has the knowledge but not the physical and mental mindset to pull it off.. guys like robin would tear apart a powerless supes..

supes is just not completely focused to make him a competent street lvler he doesnt need it nor takes the training as seriously as some one like tim or bats would and do.

also training for a month or two is not enough to close the gap with most fighters ...

tim and dick have trained their entire life and in tims case at least 4 yrs..

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Parademons with wings and enhanced strength>featless cavemen

Nope. Jobberdemons < trained warriors with sentience

Omega Vision
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Nope. Jobberdemons < trained warriors with sentience
Parademons have actual feats whereas those warriors only did one thing: die to Apocalypse.

Not very impressive, certainly not above Superman. Superman would beat those warriors as well.

Wild Shadow
well ask yourself would the street gang thugs supes fought be more of a feat then the ones apxoy fought? also keep in mind supes wasnt fully depowered as he said it himself and was pulling very basic agility feats like jumping and grabbing a fire escape latter and flipping in the air..

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
well ask yourself would the street gang thugs supes fought be more of a feat then the ones apxoy fought? also keep in mind supes wasnt fully depowered as he said it himself and was pulling very basic agility feats like jumping and grabbing a fire escape latter and flipping in the air..
I wasn't saying that its tremendously better than what Apoc did, only that the notion that Apoc stomps is a completely unfounded one.

The Nuul
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Says the person who's never read a single Superman comic start to finish.

Yup, all he does is just troll Superman fans with it and post stupid scans.

How could someone hate a character if they never or hardly even read a Supes comic to start with?

Trolling, I say.

And who cares about this Tyrant troll.

The Nuul
Supes is trained by some of the best characters in H2H, he would stomp Apoc.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Parademons have actual feats whereas those warriors only did one thing: die to Apocalypse.

Not very impressive, certainly not above Superman. Superman would beat those warriors as well.

http://img220.imageshack.us/i/page04rk8.jpg/
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/page05gq2.jpg/

http://img215.imageshack.us/i/page18gp5.jpg/
http://img215.imageshack.us/i/page21yj5.jpg/
http://img215.imageshack.us/i/page22sb1.jpg/

Those feats good enough for you?

Omega Vision
Originally posted by TheTyrant
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/page04rk8.jpg/
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/page05gq2.jpg/

http://img215.imageshack.us/i/page18gp5.jpg/
http://img215.imageshack.us/i/page21yj5.jpg/
http://img215.imageshack.us/i/page22sb1.jpg/

Those feats good enough for you?
Its generous to even call those scans "feats".

Wild Shadow
as oppose to not showing any modern depowered fighting for supes?

TheTyrant
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Its generous to even call those scans "feats".

So a few guys from his clan defeating an army is not a feat?

Badabing
I'm about to start giving warnings.

galactusischere
Everybody here needs to calm down...

chomperx9
Originally posted by galactusischere
Everybody here needs to calm down... breathes slowly. thinks happy thoughts. hee hee hee who hee hee hee who hee hee hee who. ok i feel better now and relaxed and calm.

Mshinu
Poccy takes this. Not a stomp but still quite clear who is the man here.

Wild Shadow
Originally posted by Mshinu
Poccy takes this. Not a stomp but still quite clear who is the man here. technically superman isnt really a man he is an an alien... he is a male of his species but the classification as a man cant be used to describe him... the man would technically only be apoxy lips

chomperx9
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
technically superman isnt really a man he is an an alien... he is a male of his species but the classification as a man cant be used to describe him... the man would technically only be apoxy lips so then what are male kryptonians called ?

galactusischere
Originally posted by chomperx9
so then what are male kryptonians called ?

Male kryptonians?

Badabing
Originally posted by galactusischere
Everybody here needs to calm down... Warned for backseat modding. sneerOriginally posted by Wild Shadow
technically superman isnt really a man he is an an alien... he is a male of his species but the classification as a man cant be used to describe him... the man would technically only be apoxy lips Warned for making me facepalm. sneer


Anyone else? uhuh








biscuits

Wild Shadow
Originally posted by chomperx9
so then what are male kryptonians called ? i dont know kryptonian so i cant tell you what they would be called.

chomperx9
Originally posted by galactusischere
Male kryptonians? yeah

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
technically superman isnt really a man he is an an alien... he is a male of his species but the classification as a man cant be used to describe him... the man would technically only be apoxy lips
You're making up distinctions. Superman is a man plain and simple. It doesn't matter that he's not human he's still a man.

Wild Shadow
would you call a chimp a man or martain manhunter ninja

by the way i am not disputing that he is a male but i just dont think the human definition for a male should be applied to supermale...

Badabing
Mod's ruling:
Superman is a man.

If Wild Shadow continues with his ramblings, a warning will be issued. That is all. Thanks.

chomperx9
i agree the term man is for male homosapiens

a male dog isnt called a man. a female dog has its own name which im pretty sure you already know that one

Omega Vision
Originally posted by chomperx9
i agree the term man is for male homosapiens

a male dog isnt called a man. a female dog has its own name which im pretty sure you already know that one
Man is in his name though.

There's a huge difference between a dog and a Kryptonian. Huge. So much so that to compare them is retarded.

Wild Shadow
i am old all i do is ramble but, i'll stop..tomato

Badabing
And Chomper gets the warning for spamming and going off topic despite several mod posts.

chomperx9
Originally posted by Badabing
And Chomper gets the warning for spamming and going off topic despite several mod posts. i didnt even see your post before mine till now. my bad

Wild Shadow
what about omega he is helping derail it as well? censored2



eitherway back on topic i havent seen any modern current lvl h2h fighting feats from supes in a depowered state..
i dont think its fair to use old school scans that have bn retcon yrs later

Badabing
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Man is in his name though.

There's a huge difference between a dog and a Kryptonian. Huge. So much so that to compare them is retarded. You get a warning too. Continuing an argument after my OFFICIAL ruling.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Badabing
You get a warning too. Continuing an argument after my OFFICIAL ruling.
Sorry Bada. sad

Anyway back on topic: Superman wins.

cdtm
Originally posted by Omega Vision
He trained with Batman for a month or two in the arts of street level crime fighting.

And when switched bodies with, err, Kobra I believe, and Kobra switched bodies with Batman, Supes managed to catch Kobra off guard and take him out using skills he's learned over the years.

Rightfully, Kobra should've stomped him, but he was thinking like many fans that Supes couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag without his powers, and was proven wrong.

Badabing
I didn't warn anyone. biscuits

It's been so long since I've given out warnings that I had to keep in practice. dur

But everyone please stay on topic and stop with the semantics.

chomperx9
Originally posted by Badabing
I didn't warn anyone. biscuits

It's been so long since I've given out warnings that I had to keep in practice. dur

But everyone please stay on topic and stop with the semantics. mad glad i PMed you on who to report mods to

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Badabing
I didn't warn anyone. biscuits

It's been so long since I've given out warnings that I had to keep in practice. dur

But everyone please stay on topic and stop with the semantics.
I'll stop with the semantics...all the way to your mom's house. durlaugh

Badabing
Originally posted by chomperx9
mad glad i PMed you on who to report mods to laughing out loudOriginally posted by Omega Vision
I'll stop with the semantics...all the way to your mom's house. durlaugh ohno

mmm


I'm staying with my mom in Pittsburgh and you're not invited. durfist

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Badabing
laughing out loud ohno

mmm


I'm staying with my mom in Pittsburgh and you're not invited. durfist
I'm telling the Mayor of Pittsburgh that you were rude to me on the internet. He won't be pleased. sneer

chomperx9
Originally posted by Badabing
durfist she told me on facebook she lives in vegas

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Barbara Gordon as Batgirl would be a better match. And Babs as Oracle stomps. 313

Omega Vision
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And Babs as Oracle stomps. 313
Lol at the image of Oracle crushing Apoc's legs with her wheelchair. laughing out loud

psycho gundam
apocalypse would morph into flight of stairs.

straight ed-209 that ho

-Pr-
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
what about omega he is helping derail it as well? censored2



eitherway back on topic i havent seen any modern current lvl h2h fighting feats from supes in a depowered state..
i dont think its fair to use old school scans that have bn retcon yrs later

modern = anything after 1986.

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