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runner beats up some asgardians, then odin decides to fight him off personally.

Odin wins

yeppers

Speed kills the Runner wins

Runner runs away.

Odin...easilly

The All-Father

Originally posted by iceman24567
Speed kills the Runner wins Odin kills so he wins

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Runner runs away.

Odin wins.

i remeber the runner had a race with all of earths speedsters and makkari was outrunning him, then Flash appeared and outran everyone there(including runner) with ease

also runner is high herald at best

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
also runner is high herald at best
With the space gem he beat Thanos though. Still not on Odin's level.

runner is def trans-level but he's not in odin's class.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i remeber the runner had a race with all of earths speedsters and makkari was outrunning him, then Flash appeared and outran everyone there(including runner) with ease there's context to that.

it was an homage story to barry allen (the "flash alien" was called buried alien) and the way makkari and buried alien won was by a technique (buried alien was already using the technique) to gain infinite speed not unlike merging with the speed force , in fact it was stated to keep you in a superspeed state forever and the runner knew how to do it but chose not to cause he loves life.

the weird thing is, IIRC when makkari used the technique to beat the runner, only the runner was at normal speed (as the rest of the universe was stone cold frozen) and he was able to reverse it on makkari which leads one to believe he had no real reason not to use the ultimate speed technique. almost like he was lying or something

buried alien looked exactly like the sentry but he had the flash's costume on, just torn up (from the events in coie obviously)

Originally posted by psycho gundam
there's context to that.

it was an homage story to barry allen (the "flash alien" was called buried alien) and the way makkari and buried alien won was by a technique (buried alien was already using the technique) to gain infinite speed not unlike merging with the speed force , in fact it was stated to keep you in a superspeed state forever and the runner knew how to do it but chose not to cause he loves life.

the weird thing is, IIRC when makkari used the technique to beat the runner, only the runner was at normal speed (as the rest of the universe was stone cold frozen) and he was able to reverse it on makkari which leads one to believe he had no real reason not to use the ultimate speed technique. almost like he was lying or something

buried alien looked exactly like the sentry but he had the flash's costume on, just torn up (from the events in coie obviously) 1.what exactly is the technique

so basically they can reach infinit levels of speed with it?
who wound of won that race with out the technique?

edit* buried alien helped makkari out of the hyper-speed.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
1.what exactly is the technique

so basically they can reach infinit levels of speed with it?
who wound of won that race with out the technique?

not sure how the technique works, but it kicked in at the end and gave makkari the win over the runner who was winning. buried alien stopped running to beat up a cheating competitor, but he stated he couldn't catch up the the runner and makkari so....

Superman 1 Million

Originally posted by nightmare_king
Superman 1 Million stop that...

Technically shouldn't the runner not be able to die?Only reason the other elders were was IB had death take them personally.Odin can't overcome death so i'm not saying runner can take odin down but how does odin take runner down?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
edit* buried alien helped makkari out of the hyper-speed.



not sure how the technique works, but it kicked in at the end and gave makkari the win over the runner who was winning. buried alien stopped running to beat up a cheating competitor, but he stated he couldn't catch up the the runner and makkari so.... so is runner and makkari faster than flash with out the technique?

Runner defeated Thanos. Odin failed to put him down after a much longer fight.

Runner FTW.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Runner defeated Thanos. Odin failed to put him down after a much longer fight.

Runner FTW. runner was amped he had one of the gems..

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
runner was amped he had one of the gems..

Which only gave him a better mindset. Not more speed.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Which only gave him a better mindset. Not more speed. what the hell are you talking about.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
also runner is high herald at best He's stronger than SS.

I'd say he's trans.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
runner was amped he had one of the gems.. Which didn't increase his power output.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Which only gave him a better mindset. Not more speed. It didn't increase his speed.It allowed him to teleport but he thought he was moving faster.

Originally posted by Mindset
He's stronger than SS.

I'd say he's trans. do you consider sun dip superman, kc superman, World Breaker Hulk, and loki trans?

i'd say the runner is for two reasons; 1) the race the runner held was strictly for ground contact locomotion, he explicitly told monica rambuex (spelling) to use her running and not flight since he would check if any of the competitors made ground contact every 50 meters (approx), he then kicked her out mid race for moving too face for her to make such ground contact. basically, the runners "flight" he has exhibited is faster than his running, and only lost the race cause of his own rulings. and 2) flash forward was only super fast cause of the hyper speed thing left over from his presumed coie stint, as he didn't use it for the galactic race and lost, stating he couldn't catch up to runner and makkari when the latter two weren't that far away from him. makkari then used his hyper speed and just edged out the runner.

it just seems that the runner using a slower method of travel just lost out to makkari using a similar method that killed the flash in coie (as the story was referencing heavily). runner has defeated the silver surfer using his insane flight speed which exceeds light speed, whereas the hyperspeed technique only allows lightspeed running which was supposed to be inpossible for anything but light cause of friction.

flight speed > running speed 9 times out of 10 especially in the runner's case whom can go multiples of light speed while in flight

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It didn't increase his speed.It allowed him to teleport but he thought he was moving faster. The gem allowed him to manipulte space(subconsciously ) ie moving his destination/bringing it closer to him, that why in Runners own words he was "reaching his destination as soon as he set off" and "as soon as he had thought about it" add that to the fact he was moving a ftl speeds.

Originally posted by Nihilist
The gem allowed him to manipulte space(subconsciously ) ie moving his destination/bringing it closer to him, that why in Runners own words he was "reaching his destination as soon as he set off" and "as soon as he had thought about it" add that to the fact he was moving a ftl speeds. FTL means faster then light right?Just checking.

I'm pretty sure he didn't do it by bringing the destination closer to him.I mean when pip uses it he obviously teleports so that runner just thought it was making him move much faster.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
do you consider sun dip superman, kc superman, World Breaker Hulk, and loki trans? What does that have to do with Runner?

he was probably just teleporting instantaneously or just creating space warps, the runner's brain is also operating at superspeed at all times so he must be activating the gem subconsciously faster than any teleporter ever

Originally posted by Black bolt z
FTL means faster then light right?Just checking.

I'm pretty sure he didn't do it by bringing the destination closer to him.I mean when pip uses it he obviously teleports so that runner just thought it was making him move much faster. Pip teleports directlty to his destination, Runner was actually traveling to the destination using his speed,also pip was using the gem knowingly the Runner wasnt, and Thanos even said Runner was manipulating space.

Originally posted by Nihilist
what the hell are you talking about.

I was partially right, the gem doesn't increase speed, it just allows its user to create space warps.

My bad for the wrong info.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Pip teleports directlty to his destination, Runner was actually traveling to the destination using his speed,also pip was using the gem knowingly the Runner wasnt, and Thanos even said Runner was manipulating space. So because of his subcounsious use he wasn't able to use it as effectivly as pip but he still was able to use it by bending space instead of actually teleporting?Got it.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2153/quasar1705.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1451/quasar1706.jpg

makkari compared to the runner minus the technique to run light speed like "buried alien"

Originally posted by Black bolt z
FTL means faster then light right?Just checking.

I'm pretty sure he didn't do it by bringing the destination closer to him.I mean when pip uses it he obviously teleports so that runner just thought it was making him move much faster.
When Pip did it, he obviously teleported, flash and all. If that's what runner was doing, he definitely wouldn't have been able to mistake it for running there because they look and feel nothing alike.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i'd say the runner is for two reasons; 1) the race the runner held was strictly for ground contact locomotion, he explicitly told monica rambuex (spelling) to use her running and not flight since he would check if any of the competitors made ground contact every 50 meters (approx), he then kicked her out mid race for moving too face for her to make such ground contact. basically, the runners "flight" he has exhibited is faster than his running, and only lost the race cause of his own rulings. and 2) flash forward was only super fast cause of the hyper speed thing left over from his presumed coie stint, as he didn't use it for the galactic race and lost, stating he couldn't catch up to runner and makkari when the latter two weren't that far away from him. makkari then used his hyper speed and just edged out the runner.

it just seems that the runner using a slower method of travel just lost out to makkari using a similar method that killed the flash in coie (as the story was referencing heavily). runner has defeated the silver surfer using his insane flight speed which exceeds light speed, whereas the hyperspeed technique only allows lightspeed running which was supposed to be inpossible for anything but light cause of friction.

flight speed > running speed 9 times out of 10 especially in the runner's case whom can go multiples of light speed while in flight

so runner>makkari>flash in speed then

makkari can go lightspeed (minus crossing over to the speedforce) while the runner can go far beyond that if he uses other methods of travel.

i'm no flash expert but light speed travel seems to be an issue at times *shrugs*


http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9193/quasar1711.jpg

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1038/quasar1712.jpg

^ a later confrontation between thses two (note* the runner was taking it easy on him)

Originally posted by psycho gundam
makkari can go lightspeed (minus crossing over to the speedforce) while the runner can go far beyond that if he uses other methods of travel.

i'm no flash expert but light speed travel seems to be an issue at times *shrugs*


http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9193/quasar1711.jpg

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1038/quasar1712.jpg

^ a later confrontation between thses two (note* the runner was taking it easy on him) hey message me the scans of the race if you can

This is basically spite, inadvertently.

Runner is one, maybe two steps above Surfer. Odins several levels above.

Runners good, but he's no Skyfather.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Speed kills the Runner wins

Yeah, but there's limits.

And Odin doesn't need to directly target Runner to win this. He has plenty of non direct options, like omni-directional attacks and other spells.

Other than Ego the only who can give Odin a fight is possibly Grandmaster but even than Odin should win that.

Runner can't win.

Originally posted by cdtm
This is basically spite, inadvertently.

Runner is one, maybe two steps above Surfer. Odins several levels above.

Runners good, but he's no Skyfather. maybe not so much now that surfer is more extravagant with his power, a lot more so than he was back when he fought the runner.

How exactly does runner win this fight?He can't die but he can go uncounsious.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
there's context to that.

it was an homage story to barry allen (the "flash alien" was called buried alien) and the way makkari and buried alien won was by a technique (buried alien was already using the technique) to gain infinite speed not unlike merging with the speed force , in fact it was stated to keep you in a superspeed state forever and the runner knew how to do it but chose not to cause he loves life.

the weird thing is, IIRC when makkari used the technique to beat the runner, only the runner was at normal speed (as the rest of the universe was stone cold frozen) and he was able to reverse it on makkari which leads one to believe he had no real reason not to use the ultimate speed technique. almost like he was lying or something

buried alien looked exactly like the sentry but he had the flash's costume on, just torn up (from the events in coie obviously)

Thanks for that.