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Underwater combat. No WL ring, no tp nor magic hand. Triton has inhuman sound weapons. Marrina is in monster form.

Aquaman can lift more than 80 tons, right?

Originally posted by Bentley
Aquaman can lift more than 80 tons, right?
In the water he's certifiably Class 100+, not sure about out of water.

I do recall that his bio stated his strength is >= 150 times Peak human.

IIRC Marina's true form was an alien monster way more powerful than Namor

Which Triton?
DC or Marvel?

Originally posted by comicfan11
Which Triton?
DC or Marvel?


The inhuman one -Marvel one-.

Originally posted by Bentley
The inhuman one -Marvel one-.

Then team 1 is physically overpowered by team 2 due to Triton (Marrina would slaughter him)

So it all comes down to Aquaman being able to use his telepathy and take out team 2 directly or through the summoning of some powerful sea creature (Kraken etc)
He is way faster than anyone in this battle so he shouldn't have any trouble not getting tagged.

Sooo to sum up.

If TP work or the creatures summoned are strong enough, team 1, if not team 2

Triton is equiped with sound armor and weapons as those used in War of Kings.

Originally posted by Bentley
Triton is equiped with sound armor and weapons as those used in War of Kings.

Not to familiar with those weapons
Could they possibly take out or restrain Marrina?

If Marina assumes her true dragonlike form she slaughters all, Namor included.

IIRC it took the combined blasts of Thor and Monica Rambeau to take her out.

Originally posted by Warlord
If Marina assumes her true dragonlike form she slaughters all, Namor included.

IIRC it took the combined blasts of Thor and Monica Rambeau to take her out.

Didn't Namor just rip her head off in Dark Reign?

Originally posted by Warlord
If Marina assumes her true dragonlike form she slaughters all, Namor included.

IIRC it took the combined blasts of Thor and Monica Rambeau to take her out.


I though it was the Ebony Blade through her skull by Namor.

Superman 1 Million

Originally posted by Bentley
I though it was the Ebony Blade through her skull by Namor.

I checked the scans in Namors respect thread and I think he didn't have the blade

Originally posted by Bentley
I though it was the Ebony Blade through her skull by Namor.

that was the final blow. Thor and Pulsar had to strike her first to stun her

Originally posted by comicfan11
I checked the scans in Namors respect thread and I think he didn't have the blade

we are talking about an old avengers issue not Dark Reign

Superman 1 Million will cripple all of them at once

Originally posted by Warlord
we are talking about an old avengers issue not Dark Reign

Yes.
But in Dark Reign which is her latest appearance Namor soloed her.
So what gives?

Originally posted by comicfan11
Yes.
But in Dark Reign which is her latest appearance Namor soloed her.
So what gives?

true although she was captured and possibly weakened for a long time IIRC.

ANYWAY no TP team Namor wins anytime. If Tp can affect them then aquaman and triton might win this

Originally posted by Warlord
true although she was captured and possibly weakened for a long time IIRC.

ANYWAY no TP team Namor wins anytime. If Tp can affect them then aquaman and triton might win this

I have to agree to this.
Triton is a major weak link normally, though I admit I don't know about his appearance in WOK.

Originally posted by comicfan11

Triton is a major weak link normally, though I admit I don't know about his appearance in WOK.

powerful sound based energy projection weapon. that's all

Originally posted by Warlord
powerful sound based energy projection weapon. that's all

Can it do anything to team 2?

Originally posted by comicfan11
Can it do anything to team 2?

it will need more than on blasts...nothing Namor cannot face

Originally posted by Warlord
it will need more than on blasts...nothing Namor cannot face

So Team 1 if TP works.
If not Team 2.

Originally posted by comicfan11
So Team 1 if TP works.
If not Team 2.

The problem is that TK would win this quite easily for team 1, so I introduced the weapon for Triton, I'll try to look for some feats with the sound weapons.

You think it would be fairer if Aquaman had his trident?

Originally posted by Bentley
The problem is that TK would win this quite easily for team 1, so I introduced the weapon for Triton, I'll try to look for some feats with the sound weapons.

You think it would be fairer if Aquaman had his trident?

Yeah with the Trident Team 1 could also take them in a physical fight.
The Trident has destroyed an Imperiex Probe and with Aquaman's speed he could probably strike team 2 before they can properly defend themselves.

I don't see the trident being of any great advantage. The water hand would be too much and as for TP I'm not entirely sure since namor has some control over sealife too. They might cancel each other

Originally posted by Warlord
I don't see the trident being of any great advantage. The water hand would be too much and as for TP I'm not entirely sure since namor has some control over sealife too. They might cancel each other

Namor has nowhere near the TP power that Aquaman has.
That's why I said that If the TP works Team 1 takes this easy.
But with the Trident they can also take them in a physical fight.

Originally posted by Warlord
IIRC it took the combined blasts of Thor and Monica Rambeau to take her out.

That didn't even knock her out. It angered her.

Originally posted by Bentley
I though it was the Ebony Blade through her skull by Namor.

It was.

Originally posted by comicfan11
Yes.
But in Dark Reign which is her latest appearance Namor soloed her.
So what gives?

She was in a different form then what she appeared in the Avengers issue. The one in Dark Reign was much much much smaller then her true form. Also from the way it was laided out looked like Marrina was giving up and let Namor do it (the flashback panel of them remembering).
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On-topic, it's very possibly AM could take control over her. If he doesn't she could solo.

EDIT: Just saw no tp...ouch

Originally posted by -K-M-
it's very possibly AM could take control over her. not really.

Originally posted by -K-M-
That didn't even knock her out. It angered her.



It was.



She was in a different form then what she appeared in the Avengers issue. The one in Dark Reign was much much much smaller then her true form. Also from the way it was laided out looked like Marrina was giving up and let Namor do it (the flashback panel of them remembering).
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On-topic, it's very possibly AM could take control over her. If he doesn't she could solo.

EDIT: Just saw no tp...ouch

I just saw no TP
Team 2 then

Originally posted by Starscream M
not really.

His tp has shown it can easily knock her out in her base form (JLA vs. Avengers is considered canon), and his telepathy has taken over creatures even more powerful then Marrina in her true form.

Originally posted by -K-M-
That didn't even knock her out. It angered her.

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On-topic, it's very possibly AM could take control over her.


well she is no fish life but an alien so I don't think TP would be a 10/10 win

Originally posted by -K-M-
His tp has shown it can easily knock her out in her base form (JLA vs. Avengers is considered canon), and his telepathy has taken over creatures even more powerful then Marrina in her true form.

Agree to this
Even if she is alien he has controled at least 3 alien species before

Originally posted by Warlord
well she is no fish life but an alien so I don't think TP would be a 10/10 win

Aquaman's telepathy doesn't just work on fishlife. He even caused a white martian to have a seizure and made a Millenium Giant to do his bidding.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Aquaman's telepathy doesn't just work on fishlife. He even caused a white martian to have a seizure and made a Millenium Giant to do his bidding.

I remember the white martian thing. and the fight with despero.
I just say it would have been much easier if she was sea life. now TP is just no guaranty

Anyway what does the TP matter?
The OP said no TP

Originally posted by -K-M-
His tp has shown it can easily knock her out in her base form (JLA vs. Avengers is considered canon), and his telepathy has taken over creatures even more powerful then Marrina in her true form. he could only control marine life...not humanoids

that is out of the scope of his telepathy abilities

Originally posted by Starscream M
he could only control marine life...not humanoids

that is out of the scope of his telepathy abilities

Zoom is humanoid
Vixen from JLA is humanoid (human)
Steel from JLA is humanoid (human)
Despero is humanoid
The guy from Brave & Bold 32 is human
And so on so on...

uh...none of those scans show him actually controlling anyone.

Originally posted by Starscream M
uh...none of those scans show him actually controlling anyone.

What do you think he did to Brain, Zum, Steel or Vixen? His telepathy works on humanoids

Originally posted by Starscream M
uh...none of those scans show him actually controlling anyone.

Lol what?
In the case of Zoom and Steel he makes them do what he wants.

Originally posted by -K-M-
What do you think he did to Brain, Zum, Steel or Vixen? His telepathy works on humanoids he hurt them telepathically...which I never disputed was beyond his power.

You claimed he could control Marina...which none of your scans support.

Originally posted by comicfan11
Lol what?
In the case of Zoom and Steel he makes them do what he wants. really...tbh I stopped at the 4th or 5th scan when none of them showed any form of mind control

Originally posted by Starscream M
really...tbh I stopped at the 4th or 5th scan when none of them showed any form of mind control

Then how can you post an opinion about something you have no knowledge of?

Originally posted by Starscream M
he hurt them telepathically...which I never disputed was beyond his power.

You claimed he could control Marina...which none of your scans support.

No he controlled them.

A) His telepathy has already shown to work on Marrina B) those scans were to show his telepathy works on humanoids not just marine life. Nor are those scans his best tp feats

How about: Aquaman (no tp, no wh), Namor with trident vs Triton and Marrina?

Geez, its hard to balance aquatic heroes.

If it's Marrina in her true form she stomps everyone.

Originally posted by Bentley
How about: Aquaman (no tp, no wh), Namor with trident vs Triton and Marrina?

Geez, its hard to balance aquatic heroes. triton is the weakest of the bunch