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Orion and superman fights these guys in order who do they beat, who do they lose to, and which match can orion solo.

1. Wonder Woman(no CIS)
2. Solomon Grundy
3. Lobo
4. Ghost Rider
5. Karati Kid
6. DoomsDay
7. Apocolypse
8. Thor
9. Loki

Together they solo

Orion could have a shot of soloing anyone here. Now I'm not sure if he could take a majority against some of these guys but he could definitely pull a solo win on anyone here.

Boy this is a toughy. The duo of gay sex easily soars by WW. Either alone, with no arms, and legs, or as a team using only finger flicks. They have really tough battles against them, but are stopped cold at Apoc.

That matter manipulation is tough to deal with, and these guys aren't up to snuff.

Originally posted by Blanket
Boy this is a toughy. The duo of gay sex easily soars by WW. Either alone, with no arms, and legs, or as a team using only finger flicks. They have really tough battles against them, but are stopped cold at Apoc.

That matter manipulation is tough to deal with, and these guys aren't up to snuff.
But...

Orion solos!

Apocalypse solos.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse solos.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse solos.

yodawg

Originally posted by Blanket
Boy this is a toughy. The duo of gay sex easily soars by WW. Either alone, with no arms, and legs, or as a team using only finger flicks. They have really tough battles against them, but are stopped cold at Apoc.

That matter manipulation is tough to deal with, and these guys aren't up to snuff.

No, either with missing limbs and/or both limited to flicks would lose hard to WW. Two on one they win of course, but either individually is a tough fight at full strength which they'd have a win on but can't get sloppy.

And I think the Astro-force is not going to be stopped by Apoc Orion Solos that one.

apocolypse is underated

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
apocolypse is underated

Not to the point to justify him soloing Superman and Orion. Not even close.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
apocolypse is underated

QFT

They stop at Loki or clear it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not to the point to justify him soloing Superman and Orion. Not even close.

Why not? He went toe to toe with the High Evolutionary.
H/E is atleast sky-father level.

Originally posted by TheTyrant

H/E is atleast sky-father level.
kinda

Originally posted by Omega Vision
kinda

H/E made Thor his biatch.
Fought Galactus for a few pages and earned his respect.

Apocalypse > Thor > Superman/Orion individually.

Also, I find it funny how you guys claim that Diana has FTL combat speed when she has done it on 2 occasions in her 60+ years of history, but discount Apocalypse' top feats that put him at the sky-father range.

Hardcore Apoc fanboy right there.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
H/E made Thor his biatch.
Fought Galactus for a few pages and earned his respect.

Apocalypse > Thor > Superman/Orion individually.

Also, I find it funny how you guys claim that Diana has FTL combat speed when she has done it on 2 occasions in her 60+ years of history, but discount Apocalypse' top feats that put him at the sky-father range.
I don't think Apocalypse's battle with the HE is really any indicator of Apocalypse being his equal or even near equal. Its not like it was some epic, long duel or anything.

And Apocalypse really has no Skyfather feats, I don't know WTF you're talking about.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Hardcore Apoc fanboy right there.
No you're a hardcore Apoc fanboy. He's just a retard. There's a big difference.

Which Solomon Grundy, and am I taking this too seriously?

I don't think High Evolutionary is Skyfather level in power, and H-E is a well known lousy fighter. It's not surprising someone who knows how to get his hands dirty like Apoc could hold his own.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't think Apocalypse's battle with the HE is really any indicator of Apocalypse being his equal or even near equal. Its not like it was some epic, long duel or anything.

And Apocalypse really has no Skyfather feats, I don't know WTF you're talking about.

Tell me, tanking Black Bolt's full scream isn't atleast in the Thanos/Darkseid range?
What about having the ability to literally become as strong as you want to become?

His skyfather feats are:

Fighting H/E without losing.
Talking to Uatu as equals and showing no fear of Onslaught.
Casually smacking down Cable.
Making Loki flee after Loki damn near BEGGED him to join his group.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
H/E made Thor his biatch.
Not even close. One occasion Thor had the clear edge until turning his back, and before that occasion HE had to beg for Thor's assistance.


Orion can solo Grundy, Lobo, KK, and Apoc for a majority.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No you're a hardcore Apoc fanboy. He's just a retard. There's a big difference.

It's funny how you bash members when you fail to debate.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Tell me, tanking Black Bolt's full scream isn't atleast in the Thanos/Darkseid range?
What about having the ability to literally become as strong as you want to become?

His skyfather feats are:

Fighting H/E without losing.
Talking to Uatu as equals and showing no fear of Onslaught.
Casually smacking down Cable.
Making Loki flee after Loki damn near BEGGED him to join his group.
HE is debatably sub-skyfather, and that's being generous.
So? Lots of people talk to Uatu as "equals"
Oh wow. Like you need to be a SF to do that to Cable?
You don't need to be a Skyfather to chase off Loki. Besides Loki has associated with less than Skyfathers before. You wouldn't call Doom a skyfather would you

Originally posted by TheTyrant
It's funny how you bash members when you fail to debate.
Bashing? No no, sir. Truth isn't libel.

WTF. Seriously. facepalm

If Apoc is a skyfather, than Thor, Superman, and Orion must be abstracts.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
WTF. Seriously. facepalm

If Apoc is a skyfather, than Thor, Superman, and Orion must be abstracts.
Abstract++ actually.

Come on now. Superman/Thor/Orion aren't that much more powerful than Apocalypse.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Come on now. Superman/Thor/Orion aren't that much more powerful than Apocalypse.
Perhaps not, but they are that much more awesome and successful at what they do.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Why not? He went toe to toe with the High Evolutionary.
H/E is atleast sky-father level.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
H/E made Thor his biatch.
Fought Galactus for a few pages and earned his respect.

Apocalypse > Thor > Superman/Orion individually.

Also, I find it funny how you guys claim that Diana has FTL combat speed when she has done it on 2 occasions in her 60+ years of history, but discount Apocalypse' top feats that put him at the sky-father range.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Tell me, tanking Black Bolt's full scream isn't atleast in the Thanos/Darkseid range?
What about having the ability to literally become as strong as you want to become?

His skyfather feats are:

Fighting H/E without losing.
Talking to Uatu as equals and showing no fear of Onslaught.
Casually smacking down Cable.
Making Loki flee after Loki damn near BEGGED him to join his group.


facepalm

Apoc isn't skyfather level that being said the team clears it after making Apoc their *****

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/apocregernate.png

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Why not? He went toe to toe with the High Evolutionary.
H/E is atleast sky-father level. http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3089/highevolutionaryskyfath.jpg

Originally posted by TheTyrant
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/apocregernate.png
Wow. That's super amazing.
Orion's Motherbox can do the same thing.

lmao

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lmao
New Gods' equivalent of the I-Pod >= Apocalypse. peaches

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3089/highevolutionaryskyfath.jpg

H/E in Conquest wasn't as powerful as he was when he fought Apoc.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Which Solomon Grundy, and am I taking this too seriously? solomon grundy that fights superman

Orion Soloes.... I am back...........!!!!

Who cares.

Originally posted by nicamarvin
Orion Soloes.... I am back...........!!!! how long was the ban for?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No you're a hardcore Apoc fanboy. He's just a retard. There's a big difference. There is?]Originally posted by nicamarvin
Orion Soloes.... I am back...........!!!! Crap...
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
how long was the ban for? 31 days I think

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
how long was the ban for?


Originally posted by Black bolt z
Crap...
31 days I think

.... and Orion still Soloes....

can apocolypse beat superman?

Clear it easily.

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