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1st fight: Pluto using only his personal power and his axe.
2nd fight: Pluto calls upon every damned soul in Hades to come to his aid.

Who wins?


Bonus question...where do you think Uatu tiers?

See poll question for details...

didnt pluto already beat uata in hades?

LoM, we have a problem

Pluto hasn't done anything impressive in a while. I don't even recall him being able to down Thor.

Uatu would stomp him outside his realm. Inside his realm is dicey. I don't know what Pluto is capable of in there. But if Thor could survive him, I'm guessing Uatu can too.

I place Watchers in general in the low skyfather range power-wise.

@BigC

To my knowledge, Uatu has never fought Pluto in Hades; perhaps you are thinking about The Stranger...whom Pluto did defeat in Hades.


@zopzop

I agree fully that Uatu stomps Pluto outside of Hades; inside, though, I think it would be much more competitive...

I honestly think Uatu has a small (but tangible) advantage in senario 1, but he loses against Pluto in number 2...

High Trans (which was my choice) to Low Skyfather seems about right for a Watcher...

Please define Herald and Trans

I know Silver Surfer is Herald of Galactus, but what is the actual definition?

If compare Watchers on a scale using Celestials at top end and Earth Gods bottom end, then Watchers are much closer to Celestials on this scale

Pluto vs Hulk, Silver surfer, Dr strange, Namor and a few others


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/18/Hades2.png/250px-Hades2.png

pluto one shotting the sourceror supreme

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/plutohades2.jpg

pluto opens a portal to another universe

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/plutohades7.jpg

Originally posted by GRIMNIR
Please define Herald and Trans

I know Silver Surfer is Herald of Galactus, but what is the actual definition? heralds have high end class 100 strength some can destroy planets with strength alone, some can do it with energy manipulation

basically people not to far from silver surfers power level

Originally posted by GRIMNIR
Please define Herald and Trans

I know Silver Surfer is Herald of Galactus, but what is the actual definition?

If compare Watchers on a scale using Celestials at top end and Earth Gods bottom end, then Watchers are much closer to Celestials on this scale Silver surfer's power level pretty much defines the high herald tier. characters like thanos, classic dr strange, darkseid, high evolutionary, e-vell, etc. are in the trans tier.

Trans are below Skyfathers yes?

I dont understand how Watchers are classed as below Skyfathers at all?

Are Watchers not high up the cosmic hierarchy few levels below Celestials?

Makes no sense in terms of what I read about Watchers.

Is it all lies I read?

Originally posted by GRIMNIR
Trans are below Skyfathers yes?

I dont understand how Watchers are classed as below Skyfathers at all?

Are Watchers not high up the cosmic hierarchy few levels below Celestials?

Makes no sense in terms of what I read about Watchers.

Is it all lies I read?
probably



wacthers never do anything so they're hard to gauge, I d say they're arround skyfathers