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Reeds get a month prep for what its worth.


Fight takes place in attilan

Honestly, he could annihilate them with a wave of his hand but he's too merciful so he'll just sternly lecture them and go on his way.

Michael wins.

Originally posted by zopzop
Honestly, he could annihilate them with a wave of his hand but he's too merciful so he'll just sternly lecture them and go on his way.

Michael wins.

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Originally posted by zopzop
Honestly, he could annihilate them with a wave of his hand but he's too merciful so he'll just sternly lecture them and go on his way.

Michael wins.

I know i know...i was hoping with prep and full complete igs they could do something noteworthy

Michael could lose this, honestly.

There were Vertigo universes where Lucifer was powerless, iirc.

He could be bfr'd to one.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I know i know...i was hoping with prep and full complete igs they could do something noteworthy

Maybe they could combine their powers and make some kind of Super Reed. Sort of like Captain Planet. Super Reed would probably be so smart he could out-think existence itself.

Originally posted by Mindset
Michael could lose this, honestly.

There were Vertigo universes where Lucifer was powerless, iirc.

He could be bfr'd to one.
That may work on Lucifer, who is "God's" Will but Michael is "God's" Power. Literally "God's" power manifest. I should think there is NO universe where "God" couldn't exercise his power. It would make zero sense.

Michael loses, hard. He was embarrassed by Sandolphon iirc.

Michael didn't seem like the brightest bulb in the box.

Though I think the Reeds will need a bit longer than a month of prep to be able to beat him decisively.

Michael was incredibly naive and sensitive.

Originally posted by zopzop
That may work on Lucifer, who is "God's" Will but Michael is "God's" Power. Literally "God's" power manifest. I should think there is NO universe where "God" couldn't exercise his power. It would make zero sense. Nah, it shouldn't matter actually.

Vertigo didn't treat God as the creator of all things.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nah, it shouldn't matter actually.

Vertigo didn't treat God as the creator of all things. That's what drives DC fans crazy. I found it most enjoyable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's what drives DC fans crazy. I found it most enjoyable. I don't know why, it's the only reason Lucifer was able to work.

Otherwise he could have just waved his hand and solved every problem he faced.

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't know why, it's the only reason Lucifer was able to work.

Otherwise he could have just waved his hand and solved every problem he faced. Insecure people. Mainly.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nah, it shouldn't matter actually.

Vertigo didn't treat God as the creator of all things.

Actually GOd is the creator of all things in Vertigo. That's why Lucifer had to go outside of God's realm to create his own Multiverse just so he could be free of him.

External forces.

Originally posted by SquallX
Actually GOd is the creator of all things in Vertigo. That's why Lucifer had to go outside of God's realm to create his own Multiverse just so he could be free of him. Nope.

There were creatures around before the universe was created, like the shapeshifting demon that killed Elaine, or tried to kill her, I can't remember if she actually did.

Also, the two demons that tried to kill Lucifer and become God when Yahweh left were before creation iirc.

In any case, there are realms where an angel's powers are greatly diminished.

That is what was always confusing because DC usually presented "The Presence" as being the one who created everything.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nope.

There were creatures around before the universe was created, like the shapeshifting demon that killed Elaine, or tried to kill her, I can't remember if she actually did.

Also, the two demons that tried to kill Lucifer and become God when Yahweh left were before creation iirc.

In any case, there are realms where an angel's powers are greatly diminished.


That's how Michael was also chained up.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's how Michael was also chained up.
Source.

http://i.imgur.com/m1M67uEm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/b3xUgCPm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yT8F3nVm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/i3l0clAm.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
Nope.

There were creatures around before the universe was created, like the shapeshifting demon that killed Elaine, or tried to kill her, I can't remember if she actually did.

Also, the two demons that tried to kill Lucifer and become God when Yahweh left were before creation iirc.

In any case, there are realms where an angel's powers are greatly diminished.

That doesn't mean God isn't the creator, it's just that there are other things that pre-existed before Creation.

Originally posted by SquallX
That doesn't mean God isn't the creator, it's just that there are other things that pre-existed before Creation. They existed before creation and were never said to be created by God.

So unless you have something that says otherwise, in Vertigo God only directly made Michael/Lucifer.

It's not relevant to the fact that Michael can be depowered anyway.