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Scenario one no prep
scenario two 24 hour prep for both teams

1. FF, barely.
2. FF stomps.

I don't think the FF can beat Apoc in a straight battle, let's not hate on the character.

Reed takes the match on the second one.

Apoc has taken it to X-Men teams with power at least equal to the combined FF, so I have to give some props, I guess.

In a tech war, Apoc is going to get beat though.

1: I'm acctually going to call apocalypse for a slight majority
2: Apoc prep vs. reed prep...reed wins.

1. Poccy.

2. Reed.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Huh? Yeah XavierNaut using his mind powers, found a way to Depowered the FF..... I could see Poccy doing that too....


and that was on mid fight....

I've never read that issue though the advantage of such an amalgamation would only aid Xavier defence wise.

Telepathically he would own the Fantastic Four just like he did the Vanisher.

Poccy can't do that. His telepathy is Defensive practically only.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I've never read that issue though the advantage of such an amalgamation would only aid Xavier defence wise.

Telepathically he would own the Fantastic Four just like he did the Vanisher.
He did Use his telepathy to read their minds and thats how he found a way to Depowered them, is there any reazon Poccy cant do that too...

Originally posted by nicamarvin
He did Use his telepathy to read their minds and thats how he found a way to Depowered them, is there any reazon Poccy cant do that too... Not strong enough TP.

Originally posted by nicamarvin
He did Use his telepathy to read their minds and thats how he found a way to Depowered them, is there any reazon Poccy cant do that too...
Because Apocalypse isn't a telepath.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Because Apocalypse isn't a telepath.

True he just has insane TP resistance. Probably due to his biology. Insanity and Celestial tech.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Because Apocalypse isn't a telepath. I thought He DID.....

i am not sure if they have fought in the past..

i'd say, Apoc in 1st..

FF in 2nd

Apocalypse 10/10 for the first scenario. I can't even fathom how the FF4 even have a shot.

As for the second scenario I'd put money on Reed pulling a deux ex machina out off his ass more times then Apocalypse.

Poc wins 1, loses 2.

1: Poccy bags `em and gags `em.
2: Reed with the infalliable anti-poccy gun he got in the closet.

Not that it matters but doesn`t Apoc have low level telepathy as well as the ability to resist/deflect? He could read Ozzy well enough.

Originally posted by Mshinu
1: Poccy bags `em and gags `em.
2: Reed with the infalliable anti-poccy gun he got in the closet.

Not that it matters but doesn`t Apoc have low level telepathy as well as the ability to resist/deflect? He could read Ozzy well enough.
He's not listed as a telepath in any of the Marvel Handbooks and there's an interview where a writer straight up states that Marvel never considered telepathy (or tk) as powers belonging to Apocalypse.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He's not listed as a telepath in any of the Marvel Handbooks and there's an interview where a writer straight up states that Marvel never considered telepathy (or tk) as powers belonging to Apocalypse. Hasn't he used telepathy?

Originally posted by Blanket
Hasn't he used telepathy?
He has one instance that might be misconstrued as telepathy ('reading' Ozymandias' mind) and even then that would only give him basic tp.

Him needing help to access the Astral Plane is pretty telling.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He's not listed as a telepath in any of the Marvel Handbooks and there's an interview where a writer straight up states that Marvel never considered telepathy (or tk) as powers belonging to Apocalypse.

I think he's been cited as a telekinetic, I know he's not a telepath or a good one anyway.

An Editor said he was considered a telepath.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He has one instance that might be misconstrued as telepathy ('reading' Ozymandias' mind) and even then that would only give him basic tp.

Him needing help to access the Astral Plane is pretty telling. Basic, so low level telepathy then?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

An Editor said he was considered a telepath. do you have a link to this.... or you are just....

Originally posted by nicamarvin
do you have a link to this.... or you are just....

Sorry my bad it's late. Said he wasn't considered a telepath.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=451546&pagenumber=7

Originally posted by Blanket
Basic, so low level telepathy then?
Basic as in "I can hear your thoughts but can't do anything beyond that, I can't even communicate to you mentally".

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Sorry my bad it's late. Said he wasn't considered a telepath.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=451546&pagenumber=7 so he Cant beat Juggy...... (unless BFR)

Apocalypse stomps
FF win.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Basic as in "I can hear your thoughts but can't do anything beyond that, I can't even communicate to you mentally".

I already posted a scan of him mindblasting Xavier. Xmarks' rebuttal isn't good enough.


Apocalypse 100/100.
Apocalypse loses.

the fantastic four shit their pants as apocalypse flew past them without even noticing them. it is safe to assume that he can win scenario one easily.

reed richards can solo the second scenario.

Originally posted by SuperMan103
the fantastic four shit their pants as apocalypse flew past them without even noticing them. it is safe to assume that he can win scenario one easily.

reed richards can solo the second scenario.


Are you sure? I was giving it to them thanks to the blue-eyed uncle Ben.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
I already posted a scan of him mindblasting Xavier. Xmarks' rebuttal isn't good enough.

More than likely that was Poccy throwing Chuck`s own mental attack right back at him. Just like he did to Jean Grey in a very weakened state. Also in that instance Apoc stated that telepathy was a great power and he would look into it. Seems to me a century later he has accuired limited mind reading in addition to his formidable defenses.

Originally posted by Mshinu
More than likely that was Poccy throwing Chuck`s own mental attack right back at him. Just like he did to Jean Grey in a very weakened state. Also in that instance Apoc stated that telepathy was a great power and he would look into it. Seems to me a century later he has accuired limited mind reading in addition to his formidable defenses.

Besides Zzrrak is an energy blast.

Plus he the whole Twelve energies thing already happened by then. So doesn't count he was using those energies.