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fight on earth

Probably Mephisto, even though he gets beaten a lot.. I know Surfer beat him in his own realm.

In terms of just a fight of raw power, Mephisto rarely loses. It's usually some kind of spiritual factor that causes him to lose.

Meanwhile, in a straight up fight he'll beat Supes just as easy as he's always beat SS.

spite mephisto wins

spite, superman wins creepsmile

mephisto

Originally posted by cdtm
Probably Mephisto, even though he gets beaten a lot.. I know Surfer beat him in his own realm. Only time I can think that happened is in a what if...non canon.Scans if you can prove this.

Mephisto even said he can kill surfer with a thought but doesn't because he wants his soul.

Mephisto. Hes an Elder God. Superman without some kind of upgrade is herald level.

mehisto O.D's on supes soul.. you think he learn by now.facepalm

i dont know if his origions were retconned but he was formed when demogorge released some absorbed evil

he along with satanish thog and some others. atleast thats what dr strange learned

but mephisto in his realm is abstract level
this is on earth though

he is still far beyond herald on earth...id say skyfather level

Originally posted by bbrem123
he is still far beyond herald on earth...id say skyfather level

Low or mid skyfather then.

Dormammu is above mephisto but equal to Odin

Mephisto

Odin cancelled one of mephisto's contracts which was signed by eric masterson's son...

mephisto stated on panel that it was an equal power to his own which could destroy his contract when it lit up in his hand..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Odin cancelled one of mephisto's contracts which was signed by eric masterson's son...

mephisto stated on panel that it was an equal power to his own which could destroy his contract when it lit up in his hand..

Dormammus head is made of fire, i think i will believe him instead.

nonsense.. maybe equal but mephisto is nearly abstract concept..

odin may have the power to directly effect and beat him but mephisto appears to wield more power overall.. like full on reality warping not just in his dimension but outside of it.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
nonsense.. maybe equal but mephisto is nearly abstract concept..

odin may have the power to directly effect and beat him but mephisto appears to wield more power overall.. like full on reality warping not just in his dimension but outside of it. In his own realm perhaps but outside he is lowskyfather at best. and lets not even b ring CIS into count poor Mephisto drops down to street leveler if we do

Dormammu's head is a fireball.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
In his own realm perhaps but outside he is lowskyfather at best. and lets not even b ring CIS into count poor Mephisto drops down to street leveler if we do thats not CIS but affirmative action and reverse racism..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
thats not CIS but affirmative action and reverse racism..

Mephisto on Earth is low skyfather. He makes SS look like a complete joke, but he also doesn't have anything on the level of Odin shaking galaxies. Although in some cases he's been portrayed as being powerless against someone who doesn't believe in his power / knows it's false.

Dormammu > Mephisto.

except that war with mephisto and hela would result in universal Armageddon and destruction..

Dormammu showed himself stronger than Mephisto in any realm in Hellcat.

i am not talking about dormammu never was.

dormammu wins

dormammu wins ?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Mephisto on Earth is low skyfather. He makes SS look like a complete joke, but he also doesn't have anything on the level of Odin shaking galaxies. Although in some cases he's been portrayed as being powerless against someone who doesn't believe in his power / knows it's false.

Dormammu > Mephisto. IMHO, low skyfathers don't warp entire timelines, e.g., One More Day.

bump

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
bump Spite?

Mephisto wins, hes overall more powerful than Superman, and hes magic, which is a big weakness for Superman.

My-Fist-Toe +_+

mephisto duh