Absorbing man w/ PG vs. Classic juggernaut

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Black bolt z
I was thinking about absorbing man when he had the cosmic cube.

SO what would happen if he had the PG?Supposedly the infinity gems are invincible so would he just become the material.Or like the cosmic cube would he also gain a lot of power from it?

Could he beat the invincible juggernaut.

No BFR

Stoic
The Power Gem makes this a stomp for Creel, he can't be hurt if written the right way, and he would exceed Juggys power output by light years.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Stoic
The Power Gem makes this a stomp for Creel, he can't be hurt if written the right way, and he would exceed Juggys power output by light years. So with the infinity gems supposed invincibility would it make him more durable then juggernaut?

Stoic
Originally posted by Black bolt z
So with the infinity gems supposed invincibility would it make him more durable then juggernaut?

According to the way that the gem is supposed to work, yes he would be in all counts, and his strength should be enough to actually crush Juggy, if not just punch him clear across the universe.

The Nuul
Also, Juggs is not smart enough to beat normal Creel anyways...

doomsday49
where's the kid with the dildo avatar? shouldn't he be fondling juggernaut's balls about now?

Parmaniac
nicamarvin is banned

I hate threads with infinity gems cause they extremely fluctuate I personally would use them in a thread by their description but that's not how it works here, here we go by feats accomplished with them.

SamZED
AM takes this. How did they stop him in the book anyway? I forgot.

Colossus-Big C
stalemate or juggernaut wins

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
stalemate or juggernaut wins Explain.

The Nuul
Stalemate or AM wins.

Black bolt z
What kind of powers would creel gain from having the PG?

Galan007
Originally posted by Black bolt z
So with the infinity gems supposed invincibility would it make him more durable then juggernaut? Power gem > Cytorrak's enchantment.

Lord_Talron
Originally posted by Black bolt z
What kind of powers would creel gain from having the PG? presumably the same powers the gem has.

amnesia
I guess he would overload..

bbrem123
stalemate without gem...AM wins with gem

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
presumably the same powers the gem has. But like to what degree?

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Galan007
Power gem > Cytorrak's enchantment. unless creel gets energy manip power they cant hurt each other

bbrem123
power gem is far beyond cytorrak and his enchantment

Omega Vision
Question: is the Power Gem a reservoir of power or simply a catalyst to increase existing power to transfinite levels?

Because if the former he absolutely stomps.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Question: is the Power Gem a reservoir of power or simply a catalyst to increase existing power to transfinite levels?

Because if the former he absolutely stomps. Accesses all power and energy that ever has or will exist in the universe, that would include Cytorraks power himself.

EDIT: http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7277/gempower.jpg

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Accesses all power and energy that ever has or will exist in the universe, that would include Cytorraks power himself.

EDIT: http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7277/gempower.jpg But if you look at it that way you could give the PG to daredevil and he could kill eternity with it.

KillAll
thor was still whipping thanos for a few seconds when thanos had the power gem. thor was doing a hell of better against it than he ever really thought about doing against juggernaut.

people have fought people with the power gem and not lost, but its hard to beat juggernaut physically. juggernaut will not lose here. at best creel can stalemate him.

after all the crimson bands of cyttorak are the energy that hold the universe together (said by dr strange) and juggernaut is powered by those same bands...

Colossus-Big C
Cytorrak is abstract level
he holds the universe together and he even captured galactus as prisonar
eternity cant even hurt juggernaut

Stoic
Originally posted by KillAll
thor was still whipping thanos for a few seconds when thanos had the power gem. thor was doing a hell of better against it than he ever really thought about doing against juggernaut.

people have fought people with the power gem and not lost, but its hard to beat juggernaut physically. juggernaut will not lose here. at best creel can stalemate him.

after all the crimson bands of cyttorak are the energy that hold the universe together (said by dr strange) and juggernaut is powered by those same bands...

Thanos said that he dampened his power, so for all we know he was fighting those guys under his own base powers. The Power Gem makes its wielder completely invincible, as far as physical attacks are concerned.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Cytorrak is abstract level
he holds the universe together and he even captured galactus as prisonar
eternity cant even hurt juggernaut facepalm

bbrem123
Originally posted by Black bolt z
facepalm

couldnt have said it better

Black bolt z
Originally posted by bbrem123
couldnt have said it better There probably is another way but it would involve a whole lot of asterisks.

Colossus-Big C
so you guys just ignore feats?

janus77
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
so you guys just ignore feats?
like Cyttorak getting beaten up by Juggernaut?

or say Juggernaut almost getting killed by War Hulk?
(that's Hulk + Celestial JUNK)

darthgoober
I think this fight would depend on how Creel approached it. If he just tries to absorb the properties of the PG he'll most likely overload himself, but if he can gather his wits enough to focus on amping his absorption abilities with the gem...

bbrem123
Originally posted by darthgoober
I think this fight would depend on how Creel approached it. If he just tries to absorb the properties of the PG he'll most likely overload himself, but if he can gather his wits enough to focus on amping his absorption abilities with the gem...

he just needs to absorb juggernaut for the stalemate....then simply use the gem...no need to absorb it

KillAll
Originally posted by janus77
like Cyttorak getting beaten up by Juggernaut?

or say Juggernaut almost getting killed by War Hulk?
(that's Hulk + Celestial JUNK)


there is nothing to say that war hulk would have been able to kill juggernaut. in fact juggernaut getting melted to bones (by his own power) and still being unbeaten would prove otherwise.


it wasnt the celestial tech that allowed hulk to be powerful in that appearance either. it was the celestial tech that allowed hulk to become the focal point of the heroes reborn universe and the 616 universe. allowing him to effectively funnel the energy of 2 universes. one in which juggernauts power didnt function against...


creel has been overloaded several times, he cant just steal juggernauts power either. there is nothing to say he could absorb its properties without exploding before using the gem.

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