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Who wins!!

Genis

Superman would beat normal Genis, but Insane Genis would win imo.

genis

Any competent Genis would destroy superman.

Insane Genis/Photon ftw.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Any competent Genis would destroy superman.

Genis 9/10

genis

Originally posted by King Kandy
Any competent Genis would destroy superman.

Superman gets curb stomped by Genis-Vell.

both genis can beat supes easily... insane genis will just be more sadistic

Genis should win, but according to Supermans best feats, this will not be a stomp, after all Sentry resisted him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Genis should win, but according to Supermans best feats, this will not be a stomp, after all Sentry resisted him.
Sentry held back, Genis held back, and both characters have variable power levels. That feat doesn't really tell us much.

Originally posted by Stoic
Genis should win, but according to Supermans best feats, this will not be a stomp, after all Sentry resisted him. Genis was holding back against Sentry.

Superman isn't Sentry.

It wasn't a forum fight.

both were drawing power from an unknown source whose lvls were incalculable and like some one said they were holding back.

anyways..

genis just draws all the energy from supes... think of dr. light vs superboy but more awesome cosmic lvl inspiring and superman crying and scared

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman would beat normal Genis, but Insane Genis would win imo.

Except normal Genis would beat Superman.

Insane Genis didn't get some sudden powerup, he was the same, just crazy.

Originally posted by King Castle
both were drawing power from an unknown source whose lvls were incalculable and like some one said they were holding back.

anyways..

genis just draws all the energy from supes... think of dr. light vs superboy but more awesome cosmic lvl inspiring and superman crying and scared

except he'd have to drain the sun too.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except normal Genis would beat Superman.

Insane Genis didn't get some sudden powerup, he was the same, just crazy.

except he wouldn't.

PR you didn't even read Genis comics.

I had to tell you who he was.

As long as it's not Genis at the total beginning of his career, any other Genis is pretty much made to be superman's worst match up.

Originally posted by Mindset
PR you didn't even read Genis comics.

I had to tell you who he was.

i did read Genis comics. All of them.

no, he just have to drain superman and keep him from drawing more power...

also superman cant recharge fast enough to keep up with genis draining him..

remember what supes told triumph?superdur or how black masque said how easily it is to kill superman when he spoke to the ray?

Supes is on the losing side in these kind of battles... pfff,.... some one is being biased.

Even if he did have to absorb the sun, that's not beyond his capabilities either.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i did read Genis comics. All of them. No, but seriously, how is Supes beating Genis, punch him?

You know IG isn't stronger than normal Genis.

Originally posted by King Castle
no, he just have to drain superman and keep him from drawing more power...

also superman can recharge fast enough to keep up with genis draining him..

remember what supes told triumph?superdur or how black masque said how easily it is to kill superman when he spoke to the ray?

Supes is on the losing side in these kind of battles... pfff,.... some one is being biased.

don't even go there.

what about his fights with Ruin?

The Triumph thing was false writing. With no sunlight Superman simply reverts to human levels. He lived for a WHOLE YEAR without powers after Infinite Crisis.

to stop him drawing more power he has to cut off his access to the sun.

Originally posted by Mindset
No, but seriously, how is Supes beating Genis, punch him?

You know IG isn't stronger than normal Genis.

it worked for Ronan and Hulk.

Stronger? Maybe not. Smarter? Better with his powers? More capable? Definitely imo.

Ever since he was Insane, Genis has said since that he could replicate the things he did then but doesn't, because that would induce the same kind of madness he had before.

Originally posted by -Pr-
don't even go there.

what about his fights with Ruin?

The Triumph thing was false writing. With no sunlight Superman simply reverts to human levels. He lived for a WHOLE YEAR without powers after Infinite Crisis.

to stop him drawing more power he has to cut off his access to the sun.



it worked for Ronan and Hulk.

Stronger? Maybe not. Smarter? Better with his powers? More capable? Definitely imo. PIS worked for Ronan and Hulk.

And what feats lead you to this conclusion? Also, what do you consider normal Genis, when he still had the pony tail?

Originally posted by Mindset
PIS worked for Ronan and Hulk.

And what feats lead you to this conclusion? Also, what do you consider normal Genis, when he still had the pony tail?

PIS? like what?

I'm talking about the dude in Thunderbolts. Has he changed since then?

Originally posted by -Pr-
to stop him drawing more power he has to cut off his access to the sun.
And you're saying this would be difficult for him to accomplish?

some one should read the The Ray annual comic..

it shows how easy it is to cut superman from the sun and drain his power at the same time..

Originally posted by King Kandy
And you're saying this would be difficult for him to accomplish?

yes.

Originally posted by King Castle
some one should read the The Ray annual comic..

it shows how easy it is to cut superman from the sun and drain his power at the same time..

so one ray annual contradicts the multiple opposite examples in superman comics?

no.

Originally posted by -Pr-
PIS? like what?

I'm talking about the dude in Thunderbolts. Has he changed since then? Like not wanting to hurt Hulk?

Originally posted by Mindset
Like not wanting to hurt Hulk?

you assume he could have?

and what about Ronan?

Originally posted by -Pr-
you assume he could have?

and what about Ronan? You don't think Genis could hurt Hulk?

Which fight with Ronan?

Originally posted by -Pr-
yes.



so one ray annual contradicts the multiple opposite examples in superman comics?

no. the ppl talking about supes and how to kill him and creating a play by play with their shared ramport showed how easy two guys that have mastery over light can kill a guy who needs light to function...

Originally posted by -Pr-
yes.
I don't see how. Someone who is the master of photonic energy at the galactic scale could convert the sun to red frequency, could bend the light so it literally does not touch superman, could absorb it, could black it out, I really don't see how this could be difficult at all.

Genis and very easily.

Originally posted by Mindset
You don't think Genis could hurt Hulk?

Which fight with Ronan?

i was kidding. i'm sure he could have.

the one ronan won.

Originally posted by King Castle
the ppl talking about supes and how to kill him and creating a play by play with their shared ramport showed how easy two guys that have mastery over light can kill a guy who needs light to function...

he doesn't need light to function. he needs light to have powers. big difference.

the ray is no authority on superman. not compared to email hamilton or lex luthor.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't see how. Someone who is the master of photonic energy at the galactic scale could convert the sun to red frequency, could bend the light so it literally does not touch superman, could absorb it, could black it out, I really don't see how this could be difficult at all.

has he ever done anything similar before on that scale?

the ray isnt but death masque who is a sentient highly intelligent program who has a portion of a sentient life form as its base power does and can see how superman powers function...