Who can last the longest against Thanos?

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TheLordofMurder
In the following senario, the contest is who can last the longest against Thanos in combat one on one...

Now in this senario, all the characters involved are trying to defeat Thanos, but they are attempting to do it as safely (and smartly) are is possible...

Now, here are the contestants:

Firelord
Martian Manhunter
Guy Gardner
Loki
Super Skrull
Waverider
Apocalypse
Nimrod
Morg
Pluto


Also...bonus question...who do you think gets taken out fastest?

BobbyD
Longest, Super Skrull?

Quickest, Apoc (because he jobs so much)?

I-I-I honestly don't know.

Oak Parker
Waver Rider and Morg last the longest.

illadelph12
Fastest out is likely Nimrod since Thanos has matter manipulation. I'd say J'onn last the longest with his speed, phasing, and telepathic fortitude. Loki is up there as well. Apocalypse has solid defenses and can teleport, plus the issue of not bring able to really damage him through physical means. I don't think he'd get ran over easily, despite the KMC Anti-Apocalypse Meme. Characters without solid telepathic defenses are in serious trouble.

Nihilist
Pluto then Loki.

Colossus-Big C
Pluto

Oak Parker
waverider simply time freezes Thanos or if not Thanos, at least all of Thanos's attacks.

Uriel005
Originally posted by Oak Parker
waverider simply time freezes Thanos or if not Thanos, at least all of Thanos's attacks.

Yeah not sure how thanos actual attacks would do against a time lock. I wouldn't be surprised if Thanos forcefield would stop time stops but his attacks meh... Waverider should be able to stalemate indefinitely.

carver9
Nimrod and apocalypse

supremthor
Waverider beats or stalemates thanos

753
Originally posted by illadelph12
Fastest out is likely Nimrod since Thanos has matter manipulation. I'd say J'onn last the longest with his speed, phasing, and telepathic fortitude. Loki is up there as well. Apocalypse has solid defenses and can teleport, plus the issue of not bring able to really damage him through physical means. I don't think he'd get ran over easily, despite the KMC Anti-Apocalypse Meme. Characters without solid telepathic defenses are in serious trouble. I actually think Nimrod would be among the longest lasting. His adaptative responses are formidable and I don't realy see him being more vulnerable to matter manipulation here at all. He can self repair and probably prevent furhter screwing with his form.

carver9
Originally posted by 753
I actually think Nimrod would be among the longest lasting. His adaptative responses are formidable and I don't realy see him being more vulnerable to matter manipulation here at all. He can self repair and probably prevent furhter screwing with his form.

And let's not even forget that ability that he has where he can create any weapon by scanning a persons body that is capable of killing that person. Nimrod was the main reason all mutants went into extinction.

He would do good against thanos in my opinion.

illadelph12
Eh, Nimrod's adaptive responses won't help if Thanos turns his mass, or just some vital components, into glass, stone, or cardboard. He's still just an automaton. He's not on the level of something like The Fury when it comes to his adaptations.

TheLordofMurder
Interesting answers so far people...keep em comin!

smile

Black bolt z
Manhunter.Just stay intangible and if thanos tries to mindrape MM can fight back.

Oak Parker
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Manhunter.Just stay intangible and if thanos tries to mindrape MM can fight back. Intangibility means nothing to Thanos.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Oak Parker
Intangibility means nothing to Thanos. WHen has thanos hit someone intangible?

Colossus-Big C
he probably can

Oak Parker
Originally posted by Black bolt z
WHen has thanos hit someone intangible? Thanos fought the Goddess with a spiritual projection which itself was intangible.

Colossus-Big C
what goddess

TheLordofMurder
My honest first thought (and vote) was for Loki, but after reading the responses here, I think I underestimated how formidable a foe Nimrod could be...he just might be able to eventually beat Thanos.

Waverider should do very well also, but I think Thanos eventually figures a way around his time manipulative ability...

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Oak Parker
Thanos fought the Goddess with a spiritual projection which itself was intangible. Meaning he attacked with something intangible.Thats not the same as attacking something intangible.

Oak Parker
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
My honest first thought (and vote) was for Loki, but after reading the responses here, I think I underestimated how formidable a foe Nimrod could be...he just might be able to eventually beat Thanos.

Waverider should do very well also, but I think Thanos eventually figures a way around his time manipulative ability... Time manipulation is just one of WRs powers. Qauntum energy, teleportation, matter manip, massive energy manip, very very high durability. I cannot recall WR ever being harmed seriously.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Oak Parker
Time manipulation is just one of WRs powers. Qauntum energy, teleportation, matter manip, massive energy manip, very very high durability. I cannot recall WR ever being harmed seriously.

Excellent points that I cant argue with...

So both Nimrod and Waverider either stalemate or beat Thanos then?

Oak Parker
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Excellent points that I cant argue with...

So both Nimrod and Waverider either stalemate or beat Thanos then? WR is the only one here who could,maybe beat Thanos. A portal of entropy into Thanos face should do it. Other than that no one less than a seriois trans leveler can beat him.

TheLordofMurder
How does Thanos deal with Nimrods excellent (and rapid) adaptive capabilities?

Oak Parker
OooopOriginally posted by TheLordofMurder
How does Thanos deal with Nimrods excellent (and rapid) adaptive capabilities? by turning him into a paper plate with no circuity.

carver9
Originally posted by illadelph12
Eh, Nimrod's adaptive responses won't help if Thanos turns his mass, or just some vital components, into glass, stone, or cardboard. He's still just an automaton. He's not on the level of something like The Fury when it comes to his adaptations.


You do know that nimrod has force fields thatvhe tend to use like a repeated habit? Along with teleportation, intagibility and hundreds of other abilities. You are seriously underating it.

carver9
Originally posted by Oak Parker
Oooop by turning him into a paper plate with no circuity.

Which most likely wsouldnt happen against someone like nimrod and how often does thanos use tactics like that? Who is the most powerful being that he has used it against besides some fodders because nimrod killed a member that was on the acolates easily and he was a master of transmuting matter and nimrod was walking through his attacks (can't think of his name but he once turned a tree to gold... a stautue into a foam like substance a turrned a guy to dirt).

Uriel005
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Manhunter.Just stay intangible and if thanos tries to mindrape MM can fight back.

I thought waverider had intangibility too along with crazy speed.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Uriel005
I thought waverider had intangibility too along with crazy speed. I don't really know anything above waverider.

Nihilist
Originally posted by Black bolt z
WHen has thanos hit someone intangible? A Thanos clone dealt with Visoins intangability with ease,he called it a parlor trick.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Nihilist
A Thanos clone dealt with Visoins intangability with ease,he called it a parlor trick. Scans?

Nihilist
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Scans? LOL again........only joking i post em soon got em on disc.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Nihilist
LOL again........only joking i post em soon got em on disc. K.Thanks.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder


Now, here are the contestants:

Firelord
Martian Manhunter
Guy Gardner
Loki
Super Skrull
Waverider
Apocalypse
Nimrod
Morg
Pluto
they all bust a nut in under a minute

753
Originally posted by illadelph12
Eh, Nimrod's adaptive responses won't help if Thanos turns his mass, or just some vital components, into glass, stone, or cardboard. He's still just an automaton. He's not on the level of something like The Fury when it comes to his adaptations. He's been thoroughly destroyed several times over, he reconstructs.

Nihilist
Originally posted by Black bolt z
K.Thanks. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/booie2008/Avengers-CelestialQuest01-2223.jpg

King Kandy
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Meaning he attacked with something intangible.Thats not the same as attacking something intangible.
No, he attacked something intangible, while intangible. Both fighters were intangible.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by King Kandy
No, he attacked something intangible, while intangible. Both fighters were intangible. Well i'm confused on how intangible vs. intangible would work...

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Well i'm confused on how intangible vs. intangible would work... If the way how they go intangible is to switch to another dimension it makes even more sense than intangible vs. non int.

Nihilist
laughing out loud just noticed that Guy Gardner has 11 votes, way more than anyone else..Bada has rigged the votes!

zeel
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Meaning he attacked with something intangible.Thats not the same as attacking something intangible.


the point is he can go on the offensive against the intagible types. Being physically untouchable is not going to prevent thanos from killing u.

Stoic
Not too sure about this, but I was under the impression that Pluto was above Thanos.

horrorwolf
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Well i'm confused on how intangible vs. intangible would work...

Although not really demonstrated well in that scan...what was going on was no "intangible vs intangible" attack.

The Vision attacks by going intangible and then attempting to do damage by re-materializing/phasing back into the opponent.

He failed vs Thanos because Thanos has better control over his physical manifestation. In other words Thanos' physical density easily >>> Vison's.

The Vison does not have the level of ability it takes to phase into or physically disrupt anyone on Thanos' cosmic level.


I say Morg Pluto or Nimrod have the best staying power.

Prep-Man
Waverider.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Stoic
Not too sure about this, but I was under the impression that Pluto was above Thanos.

Pluto is a bonafide Trans tier character...but only while in the heart of Hades...outside of Hades, he drops down to the level of a High Herald (and outside of Hades is where this contest would take place).

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Nihilist
laughing out loud just noticed that Guy Gardner has 11 votes, way more than anyone else..Bada has rigged the votes!

OMG...the voting box is being tampered with...for the love of gawd, SOMEONE HELP US!!

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Pluto is a bonafide Trans tier character...but only while in the heart of Hades...outside of Hades, he drops down to the level of a High Herald (and outside of Hades is where this contest would take place). i recall he took it to the stranger inside his realm

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/plutohades.htm

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i recall he took it to the stranger inside his realm

Yeah and I am betting that happened some time ago as well...like during the era where the Silver Surfer was a challenge for the Stranger.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yeah and I am betting that happened some time ago as well...like during the era where the Silver Surfer was a challenge for the Stranger. yea, but wasnt silver surfer more powerful back then?

TheLordofMurder
I dont believe the Surfer was more powerful 'back in the day' than he currently is...

I think its more of a case of the Stranger being far weaker then than he is now; nowadays (according to the Infinity Gauntlet arc) the Stranger is considered to be one of the Astral Deities of the Universe...

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I dont believe the Surfer was more powerful 'back in the day' than he currently is...

I think its more of a case of the Stranger being far weaker then than he is now; nowadays (according to the Infinity Gauntlet arc) the Stranger is considered to be one of the Astral Deities of the Universe... oh ok

Mshinu
Some of those like Firelord could probably be forceblocked pretty quickly.

I don`t know Waverider well, so`ll vote for Loki using his magic to last the longest.

Nimrod vs Thanos would be interesting.. I don`t really se Nimrod winning unless he pulls a pis-ish adaption tho.

KuRuPT Thanosi
How exactly is nimrod beating Thanos again?

carver9
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yeah and I am betting that happened some time ago as well...like during the era where the Silver Surfer was a challenge for the Stranger.

Or the time where beta ray bill and thor defeats him.

Omega Vision
The obvious answer is Waverider. Even if he can't beat Thanos with his time manip powers he can still ensure that his eventual loss takes way longer than anyone else here can last. stick out tongue

carver9
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How exactly is nimrod beating Thanos again?

By shielding up or going intangible... scan thanos body, create a weapon from his own body structure and shoot it at thanos and possibly damage him or outright kill him like he did the thousands to millions of mutants that he encountered.

khazra
Pluto outside of his own realm is a pale cmparison to Loki.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by carver9
By shielding up or going intangible... scan thanos body, create a weapon from his own body structure and shoot it at thanos and possibly damage him or outright kill him like he did the thousands to millions of mutants that he encountered.

His shields are strong enough that Thanos can't get through them? I don't think they are that strong at all. The other problem is.. Thanos as shown, hasn't had any issues with dealing with intangibiilty.. so I don't see either of those options working. Lastly, Thanos would just mind rape before he starts to figure anything out.

TheLordofMurder
Thanos isnt mind raping a sentinel...

Nihilist
Originally posted by carver9
By shielding up or going intangible... scan thanos body, create a weapon from his own body structure and shoot it at thanos and possibly damage him or outright kill him like he did the thousands to millions of mutants that he encountered. You do know Thanos is not a actual mutant as such, he is a Eternal first and foremost that has mutated and has deviants syndrome.

The only way Nimrod could create a weapon to kill him is if he powers go beyond that of others that have been showed to badly damage him ie skyfathers like Odin/Tyrant or to actualy kill him he would need to surpass Adam Warlock empowered by abstract Chaos/Order or Drax who was created by the comsic entity and God of Titanand time Kronos, Nimrod had never shown that lvl of power.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Nihilist
You do know Thanos is not a actual mutant as such, he is a Eternal first and foremost that has mutated and has deviants syndrome.

The only way Nimrod could create a weapon to kill him is if he powers go beyond that of others that have been showed to badly damage him ie skyfathers like Odin/Tyrant or to actualy kill him he would need to surpass Adam Warlock empowered by abstract Chaos/Order or Drax who was created by the comsic entity and God of Titanand time Kronos, Nimrod had never shown that lvl of power.

Thanos has been proven to be vulnerable to anti-matter; I am absolutely certain that creating this is within Nimrods capabilities...and is likely to be included in the weapon created by Nimrod after he scans the Mad Titan for weaknesses.

Anyway, I think its realistically plausible for Nimrod to be able to create a weapon capable of killing Thanos...

Lord_Talron
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
In the following senario, the contest is who can last the longest against Thanos in combat one on one...
a gay porn star.









sorry was too tempting D:

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thanos has been proven to be vulnerable to anti-matter; I am absolutely certain that creating this is within Nimrods capabilities...and is likely to be included in the weapon created by Nimrod after he scans the Mad Titan for weaknesses.

Anyway, I think its realistically plausible for Nimrod to be able to create a weapon capable of killing Thanos...

U mean he's vulnerable to anti-matter in a weakened state... where his durability was said to be compromised.. along with being physically and mentally weak? Ummm okay.. sure... but most people in that conditiion would be vulnerable to a variety of things they might normally shrug off when at 100%

OneDumbG0
^ Playing up the "weakened state" angle without simultaneously acknowledging that he had recovered a good deal, if not fully, so as to not look weakened at all either physically or mentally isn't helping to build your case.

Your opinion would be perfectly appropriate if Starlord said, "Well... that wouldn't have worked if he weren't weakened." But that wasn't the case. At all.

WhiteWitchKing
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080227093936/marveldatabase/images/thumb/6/66/Umar_%28by_Bara5%29.jpg/280px-Umar_%28by_Bara5%29.jpg

Q99
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Manhunter.Just stay intangible and if thanos tries to mindrape MM can fight back.

If he uses his powers too heavily he can get tired out, though. Hm, that can buy some time, but I'd think other, stronger characters like Pluto could last longer conventionally.

Nihilist
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thanos has been proven to be vulnerable to anti-matter; I am absolutely certain that creating this is within Nimrods capabilities...and is likely to be included in the weapon created by Nimrod after he scans the Mad Titan for weaknesses.

Anyway, I think its realistically plausible for Nimrod to be able to create a weapon capable of killing Thanos... It was made clear through out the whole arc he was not at full power, we dont know what power lvl he was at, but the writers went out of their way to say he was vulnerable due to his weak state. Saying the anti matter worked on him at full power or wouldnt have worked at full power is speculation as we dont know how much power he had regained, so its pointless using it.

OneDumbG0
^ Actually the writers went out of their way to show how far Thanos' recovery had come. Here is what we know from on-panel fact: (i) Thanos was mentally locked down by Cosmo and Mantis but Thanos recovered enough mental durability to be virtually immune by the time Drax assaulted him; (ii) Thanos couldn't even stand and was convulsing when he first jumped in that universe but he was standing and fighting by the time Drax attacked him; (iii) Thanos was barely capable of speaking when he first jumped in that universe but Thanos recovered, was intelligent and commanding the team essentially by the time Drax lost his patience.

How much more recovery do you imagine Thanos was capable of? Your speculation on that question doesn't completely and utterly banish the viability of anti-matter being used against Thanos again. That surely would be a convenient excuse, using a remote and miniscule speculative possibility to throw doubt into the absolute truth of an outcome, thus dispelling all discussion on the probability of that outcome. But we're not dealing with absolutes here. It'll probably work. All indications point that way. Not the opposite.

If it doesn't work as effectively -- as in... it'll only blow a gaping cavity in his chest -- because of some extra recovery he could possibly make use of... what difference does that really make here concerning its viability?

Your protestation that we shouldn't consider it working because it is "speculation" that it absolutely would work can more rightly be thrown back in your face: that we shouldn't consider it not working because it is "speculation" that it would absolutely not work.

So between those two absolutist positions: whose speculation requires more conjecture and supposition? <--- That's a rhetorical question.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080227093936/marveldatabase/images/thumb/6/66/Umar_%28by_Bara5%29.jpg/280px-Umar_%28by_Bara5%29.jpg is that umar?

and is she in mvc3? the art looks the same

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by psycho gundam
is that umar?

and is she in mvc3? the art looks the same

Yeah, but I don't think she's in MvC3. The art does look similar.

http://gameinformer.com/resized-image.ashx/__size/610x0/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/00.00.00.00.06/8004.marvelcap2surs.jpg

TheLordofMurder
Dam the artwork in MvC3 is awesome; that pic of Dormmy is epically awesome...

Anyone here pumped about DC Universe Online btw? I am foaming at the mouth for that game; MMO plus the ability to build your own superhero (or villian) equals flawless victory...

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Actually the writers went out of their way to show how far Thanos' recovery had come. Here is what we know from on-panel fact: (i) Thanos was mentally locked down by Cosmo and Mantis but Thanos recovered enough mental durability to be virtually immune by the time Drax assaulted him; (ii) Thanos couldn't even stand and was convulsing when he first jumped in that universe but he was standing and fighting by the time Drax attacked him; (iii) Thanos was barely capable of speaking when he first jumped in that universe but Thanos recovered, was intelligent and commanding the team essentially by the time Drax lost his patience.

How much more recovery do you imagine Thanos was capable of? Your speculation on that question doesn't completely and utterly banish the viability of anti-matter being used against Thanos again. That surely would be a convenient excuse, using a remote and miniscule speculative possibility to throw doubt into the absolute truth of an outcome, thus dispelling all discussion on the probability of that outcome. But we're not dealing with absolutes here. It'll probably work. All indications point that way. Not the opposite.

If it doesn't work as effectively -- as in... it'll only blow a gaping cavity in his chest -- because of some extra recovery he could possibly make use of... what difference does that really make here concerning its viability?

Your protestation that we shouldn't consider it working because it is "speculation" that it absolutely would work can more rightly be thrown back in your face: that we shouldn't consider it not working because it is "speculation" that it would absolutely not work.

So between those two absolutist positions: whose speculation requires more conjecture and supposition? <--- That's a rhetorical question.

Actually you're dead wrong... they went out their way to make it clear he still wasn't at full strength, in fact, it was stated RIGHT before the device went off. They said... he had regained too much strength to shut down his mind. We are already working a Thanos stated OVER and OVER to be both physcially and mentally weakened.. over and over. Yet you have the nerve to say it was made clear he was recovering... ummm duh.. yes he's recovering FROM being weakened. It was made clear time and time this was the case. In fact, the writer not only made hiim physically and mentally weak but threw in narratino making it clear his durability was also compromised. So... now that it was established OVER and OVER again that he was weakened... then we come to the key moment.. Right before... It's clear as you point out that he was recovering.. never once denied that ever. Then the key line... he's recovered too much power to control... NOT he's gotten ALL his power back.. not he's at full strength now... he's back to 100% NOTHING like that.

They stated what WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SEEING... He's recovering gradually and slowly.. cool.. they say he's recovered too much to now control.. That makes it clear he wasn't at full power.. period end of story. It could be 99.9 or 75% or take your pick.. it doesn't matter.. what we know is he wasn't a full strength. Thus when someone isn't at full strength and clearly been weakened throughout the entire stroy.. when something like this happens we take into account any character being weakened, just as thanos was. If superman is weakened throughout 4 arcs and slowly recovering.. but get KO'd.. we very easily and factually say... well he wasn't at full strength so that is a good reason why this could've happened. That is only dealing with him being physically and mentally weak... his durability was said to be compromised.. at no time was this stated to be a recovering type of thing... Point is, what we know is that he wasn't at 100% and that is all that needs to be shown to prove that this doesn't apply to a full strength Thanos. Could it, sure, nobody knows. However, that possiblity doesn't allow us to take the leap that it would. Thanos was still not 100% and that alone makes it clear beyond any doubt we can't say it would for sure work on him if he was a 100%

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Actually you're dead wrong... they went out their way to make it clear he still wasn't at full strength, in fact, it was stated RIGHT before the device went off. They said... he had regained too much strength to shut down his mind. Them stating that Thanos regained too much strength tends towards Thanos' recovering completely or near completely. Not the opposite. This is English. Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
We are already working a Thanos stated OVER and OVER to be both physcially and mentally weakened.. over and over. Yet you have the nerve to say it was made clear he was recovering... ummm duh.. yes he's recovering FROM being weakened.Yeah, at the moment he entered the Cancerverse. Then over two issues, we see Thanos visibly recover physically and mentally. I already went through the simple progression before. Ignoring how Thanos' recovery was plainly manifested isn't helping your case. Focusing on how Thanos was messed up two issues prior and trying to project that state two ssues later isn't helping your case. Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It was made clear time and time this was the case. In fact, the writer not only made hiim physically and mentally weak but threw in narratino making it clear his durability was also compromised. So... now that it was established OVER and OVER again that he was weakened... then we come to the key moment.. Right before... It's clear as you point out that he was recovering.. never once denied that ever. Then the key line... he's recovered too much power to control... NOT he's gotten ALL his power back.. not he's at full strength now... he's back to 100% NOTHING like that.

They stated what WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SEEING... He's recovering gradually and slowly.. cool.. they say he's recovered too much to now control.. That makes it clear he wasn't at full power.. period end of story. It could be 99.9 or 75% or take your pick.. it doesn't matter.. what we know is he wasn't a full strength. Thus when someone isn't at full strength and clearly been weakened throughout the entire stroy.. when something like this happens we take into account any character being weakened, just as thanos was. If superman is weakened throughout 4 arcs and slowly recovering.. but get KO'd.. we very easily and factually say... well he wasn't at full strength so that is a good reason why this could've happened. That is only dealing with him being physically and mentally weak... his durability was said to be compromised.. at no time was this stated to be a recovering type of thing... Point is, what we know is that he wasn't at 100% and that is all that needs to be shown to prove that this doesn't apply to a full strength Thanos. Could it, sure, nobody knows. However, that possiblity doesn't allow us to take the leap that it would. Thanos was still not 100% and that alone makes it clear beyond any doubt we can't say it would for sure work on him if he was a 100% Great. You have restated the obvious: it's possible Thanos wasn't 100%. Thank you Captain Obvious. It's not clear beyond a doubt that the anti-matter mine would work on him. No sh1t, Sherlock Holmes.

Thanks for your negative proof fallacy. Here's another:

"You noobs. You can't say it's clear beyond a doubt that it wouldn't work again. You can't say without a doubt that any extra recovery would make a difference. It completely disintegrated him before. Maybe it half disintegrates him again. Or just disintegrates his chest. Fact is, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. So stop talking about the possibility that it wouldn't work. That's fact. Stop saying otherwise. blah, b1tch, moan, blah."

The fvck is that non-statement worth in this discussion (which completely mirrors your's)? It's worth sh1t. Stop selling it.

carver9
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Them stating that Thanos regained too much strength tends towards Thanos' recovering completely or near completely. Not the opposite. This is English. Yeah, at the moment he entered the Cancerverse. Then over two issues, we see Thanos visibly recover physically and mentally. I already went through the simple progression before. Ignoring how Thanos' recovery was plainly manifested isn't helping your case. Focusing on how Thanos was messed up two issues prior and trying to project that state two ssues later isn't helping your case. Great. You have restated the obvious: it's possible Thanos wasn't 100%. Thank you Captain Obvious. It's not clear beyond a doubt that the anti-matter mine would work on him. No sh1t, Sherlock Holmes.

Thanks for your negative proof fallacy. Here's another:

"You noobs. You can't say it's clear beyond a doubt that it wouldn't work again. You can't say without a doubt that any extra recovery would make a difference. It completely disintegrated him before. Maybe it half disintegrates him again. Or just disintegrates his chest. Fact is, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. So stop talking about the possibility that it wouldn't work. That's fact. Stop saying otherwise. blah, b1tch, moan, blah."

The fvck is that non-statement worth in this discussion (which completely mirrors your's)? It's worth sh1t. Stop selling it.

Damn

Sr J-Bieb
lol at Nimrod killing Thanos.

rotiart
.... Noone knows what thanos was "actually" at... Except for the writers. After coming back from being completely destroyed he killed drax in one blast...

Galactus during annihilation wiped out the whole wave after being screwed by annihilus for lord knows how long...

There's no telling how powerful thantimatter actually is or vice versa how weak thanos actually was... Or even if thanos himself has a weakness to "antimatter or if it's just powerful in it's own right....

Thnos has taken hits from galctus, Odin etc you name it... So pick a reasoning and you'll probably find which way you are inclined... Either reasoning probably works

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Them stating that Thanos regained too much strength tends towards Thanos' recovering completely or near completely. Not the opposite. This is English. Yeah, at the moment he entered the Cancerverse. Then over two issues, we see Thanos visibly recover physically and mentally. I already went through the simple progression before. Ignoring how Thanos' recovery was plainly manifested isn't helping your case. Focusing on how Thanos was messed up two issues prior and trying to project that state two ssues later isn't helping your case. Great. You have restated the obvious: it's possible Thanos wasn't 100%. Thank you Captain Obvious. It's not clear beyond a doubt that the anti-matter mine would work on him. No sh1t, Sherlock Holmes.

Thanks for your negative proof fallacy. Here's another:

"You noobs. You can't say it's clear beyond a doubt that it wouldn't work again. You can't say without a doubt that any extra recovery would make a difference. It completely disintegrated him before. Maybe it half disintegrates him again. Or just disintegrates his chest. Fact is, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. So stop talking about the possibility that it wouldn't work. That's fact. Stop saying otherwise. blah, b1tch, moan, blah."

The fvck is that non-statement worth in this discussion (which completely mirrors your's)? It's worth sh1t. Stop selling it.

Where on God's Green Earth do you ever get that this statement means he totally recovered.. You do know basic english right? They NEVER said... he is 100% now... Thanos is back at full strength... we can't contain him now.. NOTHING that said nor even implied he was 100%. They said he's recovered too much NOT.. TOTALLY or FULLY or any other word like that. I believe it's you who needs to learn basic english, or at the very least, basic reading comprehension

Now are we forgetting how this whole conversation started... I think you are... I didn't come in here saying oooo he was weakened and thus we didn't know for no reason did I? You saying I'm being like captain obvious is a DIRECT result of you misspeaking, and like usual, me having to correct you. Not only in this thread but in other threads on the same subject. YOU and others said Thanos showed to be weak to anti-matter and that is all it would take to beat him. Hmmm see now why I had to come in here and correct? You never bothered to mention any of the stuff I pointed out that seriously calls into question whether it would actually work on a full powered thanos. So it was you leaving out key things and stating things as a fact (It would work, he IS vulnerable) which caused me to come here in the first place. It would be like a high powered gun hurting Superman.. and me going ooo yeah all we need is that high powered gun and superman is going to be hurt... while leaving out the part about him being weakened both physically and mentally.. That is why I had to come in here and correct you and others in the first place.. guess you forget that part, but don't worry I didn't forget your mistake.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by rotiart
.... Noone knows what thanos was "actually" at... Except for the writers. After coming back from being completely destroyed he killed drax in one blast...

Galactus during annihilation wiped out the whole wave after being screwed by annihilus for lord knows how long...

There's no telling how powerful thantimatter actually is or vice versa how weak thanos actually was... Or even if thanos himself has a weakness to "antimatter or if it's just powerful in it's own right....

Thnos has taken hits from galctus, Odin etc you name it... So pick a reasoning and you'll probably find which way you are inclined... Either reasoning probably works

I agree.. but I am having to point this out to people who keep claiming IT WOULD work or ALL YOU NEED IS ANTI MATTER to defeat Thanos. Thanks to those little gems and I had to make an appearance and get the facts straight.

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Where on God's Green Earth do you ever get that this statement means he totally recovered.. You do know basic english right? They NEVER said... he is 100% now... Thanos is back at full strength... we can't contain him now.. NOTHING that said nor even implied he was 100%. They said he's recovered too much NOT.. TOTALLY or FULLY or any other word like that. I believe it's you who needs to learn basic english, or at the very least, basic reading comprehension Turning the absence of evidence into evidence of absence is a retarded logical fallacy. Saying there's no statement that he was 100% is about as perceptive and helpful a comment as saying there's no statement that he wasn't 100%. Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Now are we forgetting how this whole conversation started... I think you are... I didn't come in here saying oooo he was weakened and thus we didn't know for no reason did I? You saying I'm being like captain obvious is a DIRECT result of you misspeaking, and like usual, me having to correct you. Not only in this thread but in other threads on the same subject. YOU and others said Thanos showed to be weak to anti-matter and that is all it would take to beat him. Hmmm see now why I had to come in here and correct? You never bothered to mention any of the stuff I pointed out that seriously calls into question whether it would actually work on a full powered thanos. So it was you leaving out key things and stating things as a fact (It would work, he IS vulnerable) which caused me to come here in the first place. It would be like a high powered gun hurting Superman.. and me going ooo yeah all we need is that high powered gun and superman is going to be hurt... while leaving out the part about him being weakened both physically and mentally.. That is why I had to come in here and correct you and others in the first place.. guess you forget that part, but don't worry I didn't forget your mistake. You haven't corrected anything. You're just insisting a complete non-point for argument's sake. We don't know for sure 100% that Thanos would get disintegrated just as completely if someone stuck another anti-matter mine on him. Nobody argues this point but you. You're arguing with thin air and pretending that this utter non-statement somehow overturns everything that's being discussed, or offers a revelation to every poster here, or elevates your observations to an exalted status. That would be quaint in and of itself if you weren't trying to take it one step further and suggest that non-statement should prevent any conversation on the likelihood of anti-matter beign successfully used again whatsoever.

We don't know if Thanos beats Superman 9/10. Some people have said as much. Nobody has 100% proof that is exactly what would happen beyond a doubt. But few people spend pages upon pages protesting about "We can't be 100% sure of it one way or another. Oh god, you're being so irresponsible for stating something like that. There are no absolute truths, blah blah blah, they haven't ever met once on-panel, blah blah blah. You're wrong, I'm right. blah blah blah." Most people don't spend time completely and utterly qualifying every single one of their statements to escape your ham-fisted and forced nit-picking.

What exactly are you posting for? What's the entire point behind this utter farce that essentially is a negative proof fallacy? That's all you can contribute to the discussion? Yeah, we've heard it. And we don't care. If you're that desperate to continue fvcking this non-argument into oblivion, you can grapple with this negative proof fallacy:

"You noobs. You can't say it's clear beyond a doubt that it wouldn't work again. You can't say without a doubt that any extra recovery would make a difference. It completely disintegrated him before. Maybe it half disintegrates him again. Or just disintegrates his chest. Fact is, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. That's fact. ADMIT IT. So stop talking about the possibility that it wouldn't work. Stop saying otherwise. blah, b1tch, moan, blah."

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Turning the absence of evidence into evidence of absence is a retarded logical fallacy. Saying there's no statement that he was 100% is about as perceptive and helpful a comment as saying there's no statement that he wasn't 100%. You haven't corrected anything. You're just insisting a complete non-point for argument's sake. We don't know for sure 100% that Thanos would get disintegrated just as completely if someone stuck another anti-matter mine on him. Nobody argues this point but you. You're arguing with thin air and pretending that this utter non-statement somehow overturns everything that's being discussed, or offers a revelation to every poster here, or elevates your observations to an exalted status. That would be quaint in and of itself if you weren't trying to take it one step further and suggest that non-statement should prevent any conversation on the likelihood of anti-matter beign successfully used again whatsoever.

We don't know if Thanos beats Superman 9/10. Some people have said as much. Nobody has 100% proof that is exactly what would happen beyond a doubt. But few people spend pages upon pages protesting about "We can't be 100% sure of it one way or another. Oh god, you're being so irresponsible for stating something like that. There are no absolute truths, blah blah blah, they haven't ever met once on-panel, blah blah blah. You're wrong, I'm right. blah blah blah." Most people don't spend time completely and utterly qualifying every single one of their statements to escape your ham-fisted and forced nit-picking.

What exactly are you posting for? What's the entire point behind this utter farce that essentially is a negative proof fallacy? That's all you can contribute to the discussion? Yeah, we've heard it. And we don't care. If you're that desperate to continue fvcking this non-argument into oblivion, you can grapple with this negative proof fallacy:

"You noobs. You can't say it's clear beyond a doubt that it wouldn't work again. You can't say without a doubt that any extra recovery would make a difference. It completely disintegrated him before. Maybe it half disintegrates him again. Or just disintegrates his chest. Fact is, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. That's fact. ADMIT IT. So stop talking about the possibility that it wouldn't work. Stop saying otherwise. blah, b1tch, moan, blah."

False. I came here to state the facts and correct you and others. People were saying Thanos was shown to be weak to anti-matter.. we had people saying all someone needs is to come up with anti matter to beat thanos.. As if it's a given.. LEAVING out the facts that I had to point out. No.. he wasn't.. somebody get hurt by something while weakened doesn't prove they are now vulnerable to said attack. It doesn't prove that at all. Just like it doesn't prove that this attack woudl then work. If those statements were said.. and it was also said.. well he was weak both mentally and physically and had durability issues.. so we don't know.. there woudl be no issue. You and other not speaking correctly and leaving out those facts and acting like it would for sure work and he does for sure have a weakness to it. Those are the corrections I needed to make.

OneDumbG0
^ You came in here (and in other threads) to troll and contain fair discussions of how reliable anti-matter would be against Thanos. Which is just one singular issue. And instead of providing evidence that it wasn't reliable at all, you provided a non-argument: we can't know 100% absolutely for sure it will work the same way it did before.

Yeah, and we can't know 100% absolutely for sure it won't work the same way it did before.

Stupid non-argument is stupid. Someone says "Superman beats Wonder Woman 6/10." So what? You're going to go into that random thread and troll the sh1t out of them for pages because we can't know 100% absolutely for sure that Supes beats WW six out of ten times? All because they didn't carefully prepare for your eventful arrival and didn't utterly qualify their opinion thinking about all the angles to protect from even the most tiniest of inconsequential criticisms? Yeah... I don't see you doing that in other threads. Just here and other threads where anti-matter and Thanos get brought up.

So not only are your motivations completely dubious -- as reflected in your single-minded behavior -- but you're still not doing anything but presenting a non-argument that nobody gives a crap about, much less is worthy of disputing. It's a non-argument. You'll not discover justification for it no matter how far you twist threads or conversations.

KuRuPT Thanosi

Nihilist
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Actually the writers went out of their way to show how far Thanos' recovery had come. Here is what we know from on-panel fact: (i) Thanos was mentally locked down by Cosmo and Mantis but Thanos recovered enough mental durability to be virtually immune by the time Drax assaulted him; (ii) Thanos couldn't even stand and was convulsing when he first jumped in that universe but he was standing and fighting by the time Drax attacked him; (iii) Thanos was barely capable of speaking when he first jumped in that universe but Thanos recovered, was intelligent and commanding the team essentially by the time Drax lost his patience.

How much more recovery do you imagine Thanos was capable of? Your speculation on that question doesn't completely and utterly banish the viability of anti-matter being used against Thanos again. That surely would be a convenient excuse, using a remote and miniscule speculative possibility to throw doubt into the absolute truth of an outcome, thus dispelling all discussion on the probability of that outcome. But we're not dealing with absolutes here. It'll probably work. All indications point that way. Not the opposite.

If it doesn't work as effectively -- as in... it'll only blow a gaping cavity in his chest -- because of some extra recovery he could possibly make use of... what difference does that really make here concerning its viability?

Your protestation that we shouldn't consider it working because it is "speculation" that it absolutely would work can more rightly be thrown back in your face: that we shouldn't consider it not working because it is "speculation" that it would absolutely not work.

So between those two absolutist positions: whose speculation requires more conjecture and supposition? <--- That's a rhetorical question. Nah your wrong, all that was said about Thanos recovery was that he was Getting stronger after he killed the cancerversers, and that his mind was getting harder to see into which Cosmo said, which makes sense when it took 3 telepaths to shut him down in the first place. Plus one of the telepaths was able to read his mind and see how much pain he was in when he came back after Drax killed him, therefore proving he was still vulnerable as his mind was weak and able to be read.

Like i said before there is far more proof and statements showing/saying he was not at full power(altough he was getting stronger) than there is even suggesting that he was back full power, if there is such proof please post it.

OneDumbG0

753
^thumb upthumb upnot only that, when RR speculates that Thanos was weakened, he had just woken up from the CC blast and was subdued by a TP lockdown that failed when he first emerged from his cocoon, more invulnerable to physical and TP attacks than ever. there is no proof or evidence that ressurected thanos is weaker than pre-death classic "full power" thanos. He was only temporarily weakened by two events, the CC blast and entering the cancerverse. the latter one being a mental condition.

Nihilist
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ First off... Mantis being able to detect Thanos' pain after being disintegrated probably has more to do with the fact that he is vulnerable from reforming... after being disintegrated.Yet he was able to kill Drax with one blast.

And you havent provided anythoing either, at least i have the on panel statements alluding to the fact his weak state effected his durability.

After all Thanos couldnt put Drax down with a hit just before Drax hit him with anti matter but was able to kill him in one hit when he came back seeming to be more powerful(gotten stronger)

Sr J-Bieb
So, I take it ODG favors Nimrod creating Anti-Matter and 'killing' Thanos?

753
Originally posted by Nihilist
Yet he was able to kill Drax with one blast.doesnt say much, drax isn't that durable and pain doesnt mean weakness either.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
So, I take it ODG favors Nimrod creating Anti-Matter and 'killing' Thanos?

correct.. well him along with others say stuff like...

1. Thanos has been shown to be vulnerable to Anti-matter (when in fact that wasn't shown) What was shown is that a weakened Thanos was vulnerable to anti-matter... Then again anybody in a weakened state is pretty much vulnerable to a lot.. lol

2. The above along with.. all somebody needs to do is create anti matter to get a victory over Thanos.. All awesome stuff.. I tell ya

OneDumbG0
^ Nice job troll. Were I you and trying to emulate your behavior, I'd jump all over you and spam-post about how "I never said Nimrod could create anti-matter! How dare you! Quote me where I said that!" "ZOMG, I never once stated that and anywayz you have no 100% proof that he wouldn't!!!" "BTW, for the 753rd time, Thanos at one point was disoriented upon entering the Cancerverse!!!" "Christ, mommy! He still won't admit that I never said Nimrod would beat Thanos with anti-matter! Report button. Report button. Report button." Originally posted by Nihilist
Yet he was able to kill Drax with one blast.

And you havent provided anythoing either, at least i have the on panel statements alluding to the fact his weak state effected his durability.

After all Thanos couldnt put Drax down with a hit just before Drax hit him with anti matter but was able to kill him in one hit when he came back seeming to be more powerful(gotten stronger) So what? You're seriously arguing that Thanos was near full power right as he reformed himself from dying? He's one-shotting life avatars left and right having become the avatar of death. Drax was an avatar of life.

WTF are you talking about? How many times do I need to repeat the following three undeniable facts: (i) Thanos was mentally locked down by Cosmo and Mantis but Thanos recovered enough mental durability to be virtually immune by the time Drax assaulted him; (ii) Thanos couldn't even stand and was convulsing when he first jumped in that universe but he was standing and fighting by the time Drax attacked him; (iii) Thanos was barely capable of speaking when he first jumped in that universe but Thanos recovered, was intelligent and commanding the team essentially by the time Drax lost his patience.

I don't recall Thanos blasting Drax with a blast of plot-device-my-blasts-kill-avatars-of-life energy until he actually killed Drax.

Nihilist
Originally posted by 753
doesnt say much, drax isn't that durable and pain doesnt mean weakness either. laughing out loud

753
Originally posted by Nihilist
laughing out loud laugh away fanboy, truth hurts doesnt it?

Nihilist
Originally posted by 753
laugh away fanboy, truth hurts doesnt it? What truth? because it dont see any coming from you.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Nice job troll. Were I you and trying to emulate your behavior, I'd jump all over you and spam-post about how "I never said Nimrod could create anti-matter! How dare you! Quote me where I said that!" "ZOMG, I never once stated that and anywayz you have no 100% proof that he wouldn't!!!" "BTW, for the 753rd time, Thanos at one point was disoriented upon entering the Cancerverse!!!" "Christ, mommy! He still won't admit that I never said Nimrod would beat Thanos with anti-matter! Report button. Report button. Report button." So what? You're seriously arguing that Thanos was near full power right as he reformed himself from dying? He's one-shotting life avatars left and right having become the avatar of death. Drax was an avatar of life.

WTF are you talking about? How many times do I need to repeat the following three undeniable facts: (i) Thanos was mentally locked down by Cosmo and Mantis but Thanos recovered enough mental durability to be virtually immune by the time Drax assaulted him; (ii) Thanos couldn't even stand and was convulsing when he first jumped in that universe but he was standing and fighting by the time Drax attacked him; (iii) Thanos was barely capable of speaking when he first jumped in that universe but Thanos recovered, was intelligent and commanding the team essentially by the time Drax lost his patience.

I don't recall Thanos blasting Drax with a blast of plot-device-my-blasts-kill-avatars-of-life energy until he actually killed Drax.

Again... me having to correct your statements and add on key bits of info makes you look bad.. not the other way around. You left out the part about him being weakened and acted like it would for sure work. When in fact, you now say.. well it's likely to work. Well if you would've used the right words I wouldn't have to always correct you. Just like when you flat out lied in the other thread saying it was NEVER stated or implied he was in WM mode... remember... When in fact that was a total and complete lie.

rotiart
The argument that someone walking and talking without hindrance assumes they are 100% isn't a very good argument... He shook off the initial effects when he arrived/was attacked but that doesn't mean that the thanos we saw is the same power level as a thanos that was at full strength... The fact that you are constantly making the argument a person who appears okay is 100% doesn't make it true.
When superman hits a red sun environment you qouldnt know he was powerless... Until he fought...

Superman gets sundipped and is overcharged you don't see him walking around with a halo... When superman is

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Again... me having to correct your statements and add on key bits of info makes you look bad.. not the other way around. You left out the part about him being weakened and acted like it would for sure work. When in fact, you now say.. well it's likely to work. Well if you would've used the right words I wouldn't have to always correct you. Just like when you flat out lied in the other thread saying it was NEVER stated or implied he was in WM mode... remember... When in fact that was a total and complete lie. Translation: "Somehow, after having my trollish behavior exposed for what it is (as it is purely ensconsed in Thanos butt-hurt), I still think my trollish behavior actually adds something to this conversation. Despite the fact that I haven't proferred evidence at all. Despite the fact all I've been reduced to is mincing words that nobody cares about and repeating myself for the 754th time."

We get it. Your butt-hurt and you like to smear your bleeding bung-hole over any thread that talks about anti-matter disintegrating Thanos. Thanks for reminding us.

TheLordofMurder
Low Herald Nimrod beats Trans Tier Thanos...

Weakness exploitation + Anti-Matter for the win!!

smile

rotiart
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Translation: "Somehow, after having my trollish behavior exposed for what it is (as it is purely ensconsed in Thanos butt-hurt), I still think my trollish behavior actually adds something to this conversation. Despite the fact that I haven't proferred evidence at all. Despite the fact all I've been reduced to is mincing words that nobody cares about and repeating myself for the 754th time."

We get it. Your butt-hurt and you like to smear your bleeding bung-hole over any thread that talks about anti-matter disintegrating Thanos. Thanks for reminding us.

At this point you appear to be the main person teolling... Just saying the guy you've turned to a pretty weak argument and seem to be resting hour laurels on attacking kt only... Away from fact basis and more to your own opinion which you are accusing kt of...

OneDumbG0
^ Your statement was so profound. I think I'll change my opinion that he was doing nothing but trolling from the beginning rather than engaging in discussing the viability of anti matter working against Thanos.

No wait. Never mind. I'm not going to waste time asking him 5 times to provide evidence that whatever extra recovery he believes was still available would make a difference.

Give me an argument and I'll argue it. Give me a troll and I'll call it a troll. You can find Mr. Magnanimous elsewhere.

rotiart
I really don't care how it started odg. I'm just calling it as I see it and he still makes his argument and you for two pages have been attacking him...

You both make sound arguments either way but the fact is noone other than the writers can say what his level is and whether if would or would nit affect thanos again...

And the writers never state thanos is fully recovered only that he has regained enough of his strength to prevent further mental intrusion... That's not a clear statement either way...

And your argument that he didn't appear injures doesn't make him 100% any more than the argument that he didn't appear to be weak...

OneDumbG0
^ You not bothering to see how it started and how it deteriorated into pure trolling justifies your narrow opinion of a single post?

He has no argument. He insists that at one point, Thanos was disoriented two issues before the event in question. I haven't argued that. But apparently, I need to reminded of it and berated for acting like I argued against that fact over and over repeatedly over several pages. Whatever argument he's got is a negative proof fallacy: it isn't 100% sure that it would work.

It's not 100% sure that it wouldn't work. That isn't my argument, that's just me throwing his negative proof fallacy back at his face. I want no part of that fallacious horsepoo but I don't mind illustrating how fallacious it is to rebut someone trolling me with it. At some point maybe this discussion might turn back to the viability of anti-matter working. We haven't reached that point.

We're still at Raging Bleeding Butt Defcon 4.

rotiart
I've read the entire thread and I said it appears the last two pages were you getting away from fact and spending too much time attacking kt. Obviously you let him get to you. Your argument is he has no argument... And his argument is there is no clear answer. Whether you or him continue to dwell on that single argument for the next 40 pages go ahead. Just informing you that you are contributing the same as him but in an opposite fashion

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Give me an argument and I'll argue it. Give me a troll and I'll call it a troll. You can find Mr. Magnanimous elsewhere.

rotiart
Back to topic... Is Loki allowed to summon the Norn stones? If so I'll lean towards Loki.

KuRuPT Thanosi

OneDumbG0
^ We get it. You're butt-hurt. Try a tampon. Might bring you down to Bloody Butt Dripping Defcon 3.

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Is higher or lower numbers better or worse for defcons? Originally posted by rotiart
Back to topic... Is Loki allowed to summon the Norn stones? If so I'll lean towards Loki. I think the thread-starter was thinking more individual combat than prep/amp-based.

psycho gundam
defcon 1 is full scale war mobilization, or full rectal dam burst

Badabing
Kurupt and ODG, stop the flaming and trolling. Next time it's a warning.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ We get it. You're butt-hurt. Try a tampon. Might bring you down to Bloody Butt Dripping Defcon 3.

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Is higher or lower numbers better or worse for defcons? I think the thread-starter was thinking more individual combat than prep/amp-based.

Funny enough.... I told you exactly why him being weakened would have multiple consequences that could explain what happened. That is what you said you want to continue the discussion.. yet you then go run and hide... Ownage.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Badabing
Kurupt and ODG, stop the flaming and trolling. Next time it's a warning. Bada why did your rig the votes.Thats the only way GG could be winning mad

OneDumbG0
^ Reported for suggesting those votes were rigged. crackers Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Funny enough.... I told you exactly why him being weakened would have multiple consequences that could explain what happened. That is what you said you want to continue the discussion.. yet you then go run and hide... Ownage. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Your attempts to project a crippling vulnerability were repetitive, boring and baseless. Moreover, they were based wholly in a circular argument fallacy:

The anti-matter only worked because his durability was lessened.

His durability was clearly lessened, because the anti-matter mine worked.

Doesn't take several meandering and rambling paragraphs to rebut that.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Reported for suggesting those votes were rigged. crackers roll eyes (sarcastic)

Your attempts to project a crippling vulnerability were repetitive, boring and baseless. Moreover, they were based wholly in a circular argument fallacy:

The anti-matter only worked because his durability was lessened.

His durability was clearly lessened, because the anti-matter mine worked.

Doesn't take several meandering and rambling paragraphs to rebut that. Come one ODG.Yours and Quans debates were funny.But debating with KT?

Now it just seems...Factual. You sicken me ahuh

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