Resurrection Man Vs Doomsday
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Lord_Talron
arent RM's powers unpredictable?
Galan007
^ Only when he was a noob. But once RM became acclimated to his powers, he could literally pick and choose which one(s) he wanted to manifest (as seen during the final few issues of his solo series-DC One Million.)
Desaad
Nah. As late as issue 24 he had no real control over his abilities (and never demonstrated any control over them in the remaining issues, it just wasn't as explicit). In DC 1 Million he says he's been able to pick his power for 'a few millenia'.
As of now he shouldn't have the ability to pick his powers, and in today's issue of Brightest Day he seems to imply that he still doesn't.
Still, his abilities manifest in direct response to the stimuli that killed him. Kill him enough times and he's going to develop an ability to beat you. That's what happened when Hitman killed him enough times (he developed a sort of cosmic power) and when a reality warper warped reality all around him (he developed Quantum Speed and then later Quantum Telekinesis, which apparently made him crazy powerful).
I don't think he'd develop a power fast enough to beat Doomsday in even 10 match ups, but he might.
The 1 Million version is almost tailor made to beat Doomsday, though. He's got a near infinite number of options available to him.
Stoic
I guess one kill is enough to call it a victory right?
Desaad
I usually judge /10
Galan007
Ah I don't read Brightest Day so I was unaware of his current showings. But I am almost positive that during his solo series he was able to pick and maintain certain powers -- not to the same extent as his nigh unbeatable DC1M self, of course. But still.
Desaad
Originally posted by Galan007
Ah I don't read Brightest Day so I was unaware of his current showings. But I am almost positive that during his solo series he was able to pick and maintain certain powers -- not to the same extent as his nigh unbeatable DC1M self, of course. But still.
Nope, I checked myself. Only in Resurrection Man 1 Million (and associated showings of the 1 Million version of the character), if you count that as part of his solo series. And that's backed up by the (extremely vague) timeline given in Resurrection Man 1 Million.
Mindset
Originally posted by Galan007
RM.
Galan007
Originally posted by Desaad
Nope, I checked myself. Only in Resurrection Man 1 Million (and associated showings of the 1 Million version of the character), if you count that as part of his solo series. And that's backed up by the (extremely vague) timeline given in Resurrection Man 1 Million. I remember him having super strength, speed/flight, etc. during the final issues of his series.
Q99
Even in DC 1 million, the powers he picked weren't strong enough to help much against DD.
I don't know what you'd call a 'win' here but RM is going to be pretty helpless.
Galan007
Originally posted by Q99
Even in DC 1 million, the powers he picked weren't strong enough to help much against DD.
I don't know what you'd call a 'win' here but RM is going to be pretty helpless. You missed his showings in the DC1M tie-ins, evidently.
Q99
Originally posted by Galan007
You missed his showings in the DC1M tie-ins, evidently.
What'd he do in those?
I remember his confrontation with Vandal, but I haven't seen any that weren't in the collection.
Desaad
Originally posted by Galan007
I remember him having super strength, speed/flight, etc. during the final issues of his series.
Nope. Just in DC 1 Million (his default abilities)
In the final issues of his series he comes back once as a metal guy (super strength, invulnerability) and once later as a prism guy (energy projection), but he has no control over that.
Desaad
Originally posted by Q99
What'd he do in those?
I remember his confrontation with Vandal, but I haven't seen any that weren't in the collection.
In his DC 1 Million issue proper you're right, he didn't do much.
But in another DC 1 Million tie in, the Superman issue written by DnA (or Action, or Adventure...I honestly don't know which one it was), he had "Quantum Speed" which allowed him to go so fast Superman couldn't react, and had some unknown degree of control over speed.
In the 80 Page Giant he took on the powers of a black hole.
Not part of DC 1 Million, but in an early issue, after being killed dozens of times by Hitman (trying to find the right power) he came back with a vague cosmic power that let him do pretty much whatever ("I can hear the stars sing their song, blah blah blah"

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In another issue, after being caught in a reality warp, killed over and over again over the course of days, he develops first quantum speed (for the first time, chronologically, even though we had technically seen his future self use it ALREADY) and then later Quantum Telekinesis. In particular, Quantum Telekinesis made him seem like he was the most powerful member of the Justice League at the time (he was sought out by them to help with a mission, offerred membership that he turned down).
In another, earlier issue, he gains the ability to channel emotional energy into sonic force. He channels the fear/anger of a crowd into a blast so powerful that it immediately destroys a version of Amazo that was taking on the entire league, combined, and winning.
Q99
Interesting, sounds like he can get powers strong enough to work.
Galan007
Originally posted by Q99
What'd he do in those?
I remember his confrontation with Vandal, but I haven't seen any that weren't in the collection. Here RM owns Superman via a mixture of strength, intangibility, and 'quantum speed' (an ability akin to the speed force):
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(Quantum speed would be especially useful if RM needed to gain a BFR win against an opponent.)
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Approximates the power of a black hole:
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And like Desaad said: RM (pre-DC1M) has also gained sufficient power to one-shot a version of Amazo who had previously been owning the collective JLA (inc. Superman Blue.) He's also unlocked some sort of undefined cosmic powers, which evidently endowed him with universal oneness.
Originally posted by Desaad
Nope. Just in DC 1 Million (his default abilities)
In the final issues of his series he comes back once as a metal guy (super strength, invulnerability) and once later as a prism guy (energy projection), but he has no control over that. In issues #19-21 of RM's solo series, he demonstrated abilities like what I mentioned (ie. strength/speed/flight as his standard powerset.) That's what I was thinking of.
Desaad
He demonstrated those abilities over the course of his run, yes, but he never demonstrated CONTROL over those abilities. They came to him at various points, is all.
Galan007
Originally posted by Desaad
He demonstrated those abilities over the course of his run, yes, but he never demonstrated CONTROL over those abilities. They came to him at various points, is all. During the issues I mentioned, RM seemed to manifest abilities like quantum speed, sub-zero ice creation, super strength, flight, TK, etc. all on the fly (ie. he didn't need to die/keep dying in order to manifest those powers as he had before.) He was actually quite a badass.
That's all I'ze talking about

Desaad
Originally posted by Galan007
During the issues I mentioned, RM seemed to manifest abilities like quantum speed, sub-zero ice creation, super strength, flight, TK, etc. all on the fly (ie. he didn't need to die/keep dying in order to manifest those powers as he had before.) He was actually quite a badass.
That's all I'ze talking about
Yeah, but you're still wrong.
Quantum Speed he manifested as Resurrection Man 1 Million 'on the fly'. The next time (first time, chronologically) he manifested it was after he had been trapped in a reality warp for days, being killed over and over. His body recognized the situation he was in, and was trying to give him a power great enough to free himself. Thats what he eventually got Quantum TK as well. That's also why, when under torture, Mitch gained a FEMALE's body, for better pain tolerance.
He had no ability to control his powers towards the end of his run. He wouldn't gain that ability for years.
He was powerful, and I gave a decent list of his abilities, but he was as likely to manifest the ability to make psychedelic butterflies as he was to gain Quantum Telekinesis, at least for a while (eventually, as we learned, his body would specifically give him powers to adapt to the way he died).
Galan007
Originally posted by Desaad
Yeah, but you're still wrong.
Quantum Speed he manifested as Resurrection Man 1 Million 'on the fly'. The next time (first time, chronologically) he manifested it was after he had been trapped in a reality warp for days, being killed over and over. His body recognized the situation he was in, and was trying to give him a power great enough to free himself. Thats what he eventually got Quantum TK as well. That's also why, when under torture, Mitch gained a FEMALE's body, for better pain tolerance.
He had no ability to control his powers towards the end of his run. He wouldn't gain that ability for years.
He was powerful, and I gave a decent list of his abilities, but he was as likely to manifest the ability to make psychedelic butterflies as he was to gain Quantum Telekinesis, at least for a while (eventually, as we learned, his body would specifically give him powers to adapt to the way he died). You're still misunderstanding. All I'm saying is in those particular issues he was able to manifest the aforementioned abilities on the fly. I am not talking about anything before/after those issues.
This is what I keep saying "that's the instance I was thinking of"
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