Deathstroke vs. Lady Deathstrike

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Black bolt z
Who wins?

Omega Vision
How many Wolverine's would you say Yuriko is worth?

I mean does she have an adamantium skeleton? How's her HF?

All I really know is that she's another Wolverine offshoot character.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Omega Vision
How many Wolverine's would you say Yuriko is worth?

I mean does she have an adamantium skeleton? How's her HF?

All I really know is that she's another Wolverine offshoot character. I have no idea.All I really know about her is like you said shes a wolverine shootoff.

Sounds right in slades ballpark.

Juk3n
he has a chance with some sort of concussive KO, h2h? he hasnt got enough damage output.

carver9
Deathsroke after a hard fight.

srankmissingnin
Lady Deathstroke should win. Her Adamantium skeleton (chassis?), cybernetic healing factor and damage out put make her too much for Slade to handle in melee... and the fact that she can run upwards of 200mph makes it unlikely he could keep her at range. Deathstroke would need prep.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Lady Deathstroke should win. Her Adamantium skeleton (chassis?), cybernetic healing factor and damage out put make her too much for Slade to handle in melee... and the fact that she can run upwards of 200mph makes it unlikely he could keep her at range. Deathstroke would need prep.
I really don't see why her running at sub-sonic speeds would keep him from tagging her with his staff blast.

Juk3n
they're 50 ft apart and she can move like that..how long does that mean he has to get a shot off? 200mph running speed to go 50 ft. He has time for MAYBE one badly aimed guess shot.

BruceSkywalker
Slade after long bettle

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Juk3n
they're 50 ft apart and she can move like that..how long does that mean he has to get a shot off? 200mph running speed to go 50 ft. He has time for MAYBE one badly aimed guess shot.
Yeah...if only Slade had enhances senses and meta reflexes and a history of tagging/reaction to characters far faster than Yuriko in split seconds...

The Nuul
Scans or issue number of her running that fast. But still Slade has hit speedsters before. Also she is NOT Wolverine so she does not = him or get his feats. Slade should win.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by The Nuul
Scans or issue number of her running that fast. But still Slade has hit speedsters before. Also she is NOT Wolverine so she does not = him or get his feats. Slade should win.

Wolverine 171, he chased Yuriko across Kobe Japan for several miles on his motorcycle and she was able to out pace him on foot. Deathstroke isn't going to job to Slade, there is virtually no chance he can tag her in any meaningful way before she can close the 50 foot default gab.

She doesn't need Wolverine's feats, she has her own, like getting blasted from Japan to New York by a Prime Sentinel without getting koed, running upwards of 200mph and of course holding her own against Wolverine half a dozen times.

King Castle
in a melee close quarter fight DS is dog food.. since yuriko can extend her arms and finger claws giving her a big advantage. plus she is also a skilled fighter with cybernetic enhancements and adamantium skeletal support with self repair program.

at a distance Slade would have to rely on his explosives and staff and hope to hit her while he had the advantage of distance.

i dont see the staff surviving her slashes either from how many times we've seen promethium items damaged.

The Nuul
DS should win if he plays it smart and uses everything he has. But the fight can go very wrong for him at anytime.

snoopdogg
Who heals better?

The Nuul
She is IMO.

King Castle
Originally posted by The Nuul
DS should win if he plays it smart and uses everything he has. But the fight can go very wrong for him at anytime. she does. wolverine has commented about having to out slash her to such extreme levels in hopes of overwhelming her cybernetic healing factor and that was long before her most current upgrades..

he and her have bloodied each other Wolverine has had to rely on near dismemberment just to win.. taxing both there healing factors taking them to the limit

The Nuul
Ummm....thinking...and it has nothing to do with king sock's post.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine 171, he chased Yuriko across Kobe Japan for several miles on his motorcycle and she was able to out pace him on foot. Deathstroke isn't going to job to Slade, there is virtually no chance he can tag her in any meaningful way before she can close the 50 foot default gab.

She doesn't need Wolverine's feats, she has her own, like getting blasted from Japan to New York by a Prime Sentinel without getting koed, running upwards of 200mph and of course holding her own against Wolverine half a dozen times. Yes because theres no way slade can react to people running at super fast speeds angel

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes because theres no way slade can react to people running at super fast speeds angel

Only if their jobbing.

Badabing
Originally posted by The Nuul
Ummm....thinking...and it has nothing to do with king sock's post. If you have proof of socking then PM a mod. If not then leave it off the threads.

Mindset
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Only if their jobbing.

Admittedly, Flash level speedsters would need to job, but it is within his ability to hit someone who can run an est. 200mph.

And stop calling Deathstrike, Deathstroke, you jerk. sneer

Lunacyde
X-23 has defeated Deathstrike IIRC Slade should be able to as well after a tough fight.

long pig
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
there is virtually no chance he can tag her in any meaningful way before she can close the 50 foot default gab.
she has her own, like getting blasted from Japan to New York by a Prime Sentinel without getting koed, running upwards of 200mph. Do you not grasp just how much faster someone who litterally has "instantaneous reflexes/thought processing and movement" is than someone who "runs kinda fast "? DS would one shot ko her. How? The same way he one shot another cybernetic being a billion times. Cyborg. He either blasts her with EMP type thinghis staff can do which short circuts her system(like it did cyborg) or his special grenade that shuts off advanced tech(like he did cyborg). He's legitimately hit people hundreds of times faster than her, overpowered people way stronger than her, out fought way better MAs, shut down better tech than hers and knocked out more durable people. She has no chance. DS 10/10

long pig
LOL @ her best feats being "she can run real fast" and "she got punched real hard one time"

khazra
Originally posted by long pig
Do you not grasp just how much faster someone who litterally has "instantaneous reflexes/thought processing and movement" is than someone who "runs kinda fast "? DS would one shot ko her. How? The same way he one shot another cybernetic being a billion times. Cyborg. He either blasts her with EMP type thinghis staff can do which short circuts her system(like it did cyborg) or his special grenade that shuts off advanced tech(like he did cyborg). He's legitimately hit people hundreds of times faster than her, overpowered people way stronger than her, out fought way better MAs, shut down better tech than hers and knocked out more durable people. She has no chance. DS 10/10
DS has the most overstated feats of all time. He tags flashes etc with superior tactics and skill, not cause of his reflexes. There good but there not instant!

I havent seen any instances of EMPs effecting Deathstrike though there may be some so im unsure if thats relevant. Also, is it standard equipment?

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by long pig
Do you not grasp just how much faster someone who litterally has "instantaneous reflexes/thought processing and movement" is than someone who "runs kinda fast "? DS would one shot ko her. How? The same way he one shot another cybernetic being a billion times. Cyborg. He either blasts her with EMP type thinghis staff can do which short circuts her system(like it did cyborg) or his special grenade that shuts off advanced tech(like he did cyborg). He's legitimately hit people hundreds of times faster than her, overpowered people way stronger than her, out fought way better MAs, shut down better tech than hers and knocked out more durable people. She has no chance. DS 10/10


Holy shit it's Long Pig! Where ya' been? eek!

snoopdogg
Originally posted by long pig
LOL @ her best feats being "she can run real fast" and "she got punched real hard one time" Those are the awesome feats.

Juk3n
Originally posted by long pig
Do you not grasp just how much faster someone who litterally has "instantaneous reflexes/thought processing and movement"

if this were the case he'd never get tagged himself, Deathstroke either is A) legitimatley fast enough to tag non-jobbing Flashes without breaking a sweat.

Or B) not fast enough to avaoid being tagged by Batman, Nightwing, Cassy whenever they go against ne another.
He can't be both, well he can, but then you'll have to prove batman, Cass and NW are also > Flashes.

Bentley
Deathstroke stomps thanks to ranged weaponry.

YFZ 350
Might go with Deathstrike.

King Castle
Originally posted by Lunacyde
X-23 has defeated Deathstrike IIRC Slade should be able to as well after a tough fight. X-23 drew her in and took heavy slicing damage b4 she she stabbed and damage some arm circuitry which by the way seemed not to regenerate as it should or seem to take longer then it should.

DS knows nothing about her nor does he possesses the healing factor on par to x23 to help him survive the initial onslaught.

like i said in melee i give it to Lady D more often then not.

DS best shot is distance where he has a better chance if only slightly depending what the staff can do.

Bentley
Captain America had a decent showing against LD.

King Castle
Originally posted by Bentley
Captain America had a decent showing against LD. he evaded her most of the issue only occasionally shield bashing and he used terrain.

he admitted he couldnt win simply distract her from her mission.. once Lady D failed her mission she had no reason to kill cap.

Lady D was the t800 to Cap's sara connor in the end scene of the terminator in the automated factory.

i dont see cap's comic showing being the same as a forum fight on equal footing.

Bentley
It doesn't fall far from other showings Lady Deathstrike had though. Steve has done well against several impressive fighters and while he certainly wasn't winning that fight he managed to hold her at bay much better than Laura would've managed without a healing factor.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by King Castle
he evaded her most of the issue only occasionally shield bashing and he used terrain.

he admitted he couldnt win simply distract her from her mission.. once Lady D failed her mission she had no reason to kill cap.

Lady D was the t800 to Cap's sara connor in the end scene of the terminator in the automated factory.

i dont see cap's comic showing being the same as a forum fight on equal footing.


IIRC Cap never admitted he could not win. She got lucky Cap didn't just shield smack her repeatedly afer he had her seeing stars from his shield hit(and not the one's that he's wearing) and decided to use the terrain to move on to the other distraction at the time.

Daredevil1
And here's the thoughts of that guy trying to blew up the whole place while Cap vs Shiva was fighting "off panel"


Quote"The American is winning! He already maneuvered the great lady into severing the trigger relays on the gas canisters! Still two canisters remain. Two that I can use If I work quickly enough."


So not sure why you would make up something on Cap saying he could not defeat her.

Cap was just toying with her and when he got serious he really could have ended that fight whenever he wanted by the dialogue and the ending display anyhow.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by Bentley
It doesn't fall far from other showings Lady Deathstrike had though. Steve has done well against several impressive fighters and while he certainly wasn't winning that fight he managed to hold her at bay much better than Laura would've managed without a healing factor.


Actually he was winning and had her seeing stars to boot.

King Castle
does anyone have the scan of their fight so we can all see what is being talked about rather then going by memory?

i recall it was in the ownage thread but dont feel like scanning months worth of pages.

i dont remotely think its possible for Cap to win the majority in a forum fight against her let alone with no terrain usage.

jinzin
Originally posted by King Castle
he evaded her most of the issue only occasionally shield bashing and he used terrain.

he admitted he couldnt win simply distract her from her mission.. once Lady D failed her mission she had no reason to kill cap.

Lady D was the t800 to Cap's sara connor in the end scene of the terminator in the automated factory.

i dont see cap's comic showing being the same as a forum fight on equal footing.

not to mention that was before her most prominent upgrades.

khazra
Captain America's familiarity with Deathstrike as well as the shield make that not hugely relevnt to this fight though.

Plus id take Rogers over Slade anyway.

Konton
Deathstrike, handily.

a real man
Deathstrike give wolverine good fight so she wins

jinzin
Originally posted by khazra
Captain America's familiarity with Deathstrike as well as the shield make that not hugely relevnt to this fight though.

Plus id take Rogers over Slade anyway. true that.

Mindset
Deathstroke wins.

jinzin agrees.

King Castle
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine 171, he chased Yuriko across Kobe Japan for several miles on his motorcycle and she was able to out pace him on foot. Deathstroke isn't going to job to Slade, there is virtually no chance he can tag her in any meaningful way before she can close the 50 foot default gab.

She doesn't need Wolverine's feats, she has her own, like getting blasted from Japan to New York by a Prime Sentinel without getting koed, running upwards of 200mph and of course holding her own against Wolverine half a dozen times. here you go.. stick out tongue

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10069/563666-wolverine_vs_lady_deathstrike_05.jpg

long pig
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Holy shit it's Long Pig! Where ya' been? eek! smile oh, all over the world. Where the hell is jinzin so i can argue at both of you for hours about the same things every night like the good ol days? death stroke / wolverine good times. As for Stroke having instantaneous reactions, thinking, reflexes, he literally has them. He's said it, showed it many times. his creater said it. Superman and flash and green arrow said it. Flash and kid flash said he thinks faster than they can for a second or two. instantaneous thought processing is an insane unexplainable ability. The question was asked how can he legit hit a speeder and then later on be hit by batman. u say the speeder is jobbig but if you read all the DS batman fights, you will clearly see stroke is the one jobbing. he doesnt take it seriouly 99% of the times he fights wing or bats or batgirl they say outloud that hes toying with them. he can beat all three at once.

psycho gundam
^ four loco > sundrop

long pig
but yes, .strike gives wolvie a hard time. but .stroke would beat the shiv outta wolvie. he'd kill him with one punch (<--clearly trying to bait srank and jinzin into a fight smile)) but he really would beat his ass

StyleTime
Originally posted by long pig
he doesnt take it seriouly 99% of the times he fights wing or bats or batgirl they say outloud that hes toying with them. he can beat all three at once.
Someone should make that thread. shifty

long pig
four loco is a whole nother level of awesome.

psycho gundam
it's getting banned in certain areas

stock up and sell for higher prices, or just to get throwed *shrugs*

long pig
here's the problem with strokey.. no matter how many times he does something amazing, it doesn't count for some reason. but when he trips and knocks himself out, thats totally fine. Batman wolverine have the same problem. if you i by feats and facts alone and not a dumb opinion, stroke is at least a 10 tonner. he has at least sub sonic short bursts of speed backed by at least supersonic thought processe and super human intelligence. his healing is at least as good as classic wolvie and his armor and tech weapons are at the very least equal to bats most likely better and more deadly(the same staff blast that stunned superboy has been upgraded 600%). He's the shit.

SamZED
I wouldnt go as far as to say he can be all 3 of them at once but it was made pretty clear that DS > Batman.

Dum Dum Dugan
wait a sec, long pigs back?

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