Kingdom Gog vs. SBP

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KuRuPT Thanosi
who wins this battle.

Black bolt z
Gog me thinks?

Galan007
Pretty sure this has been done.

Gog stomps.

Bentley
Prime smile

Galan007
vegetajv2

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

CosmicComet
Originally posted by Galan007
vegetajv2


...That.

Is awesome.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Galan007
vegetajv2 What is that even a smiley of?

Galan007
^ Vegeta did the fusion dance with the uhuh smilie..

vegetajv2

KuRuPT Thanosi
Can I ask you why u think Gog stomps my friend? If my memory serves me correctly you would rank these guys in the following order:

1. Gog
2. Monarch
3. SBP
4. Thanos

Is the above how you see it? If so, please explain how Gog stomps. I think Gog is pretty powerful but I just don't see him stomping anybody on this list, and since you do, I'm just curious if I'm missing something. In Re: Prime specifically... has Gog ever been shown to have the ability to produce for example Red Sun on a whim? Or are you just viewing Gog and his staff's blasts as something Prime couldn't tank.. considering he has tanked a lot. Thanks buddy.

Galan007
^ Gog stomps here for a few resons...

a.) Aside from his insane strength, Gog can also move MUCH faster than Prime:
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6146/gogspeed1.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9025/gogspeed2.jpg
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6474/gogspeed3.jpg
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1156/gogspeed4.jpg
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b.) He can absorb energy attacks (ie. heat vision):
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3576/gogpower1.jpg
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c.) His staff contains the fire of a dozen red suns:
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3042/gogstaff1.jpg

guy222
SBP doesn't win here

Solidus Black
Gog couldnt even be banished by a phantom zone projector.

I think he wins

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Gog stomps here for a few resons...

a.) Aside from his insane strength, Gog can also move MUCH faster than Prime:
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6146/gogspeed1.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9025/gogspeed2.jpg
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6474/gogspeed3.jpg
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1156/gogspeed4.jpg
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b.) He can absorb energy attacks (ie. heat vision):
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3576/gogpower1.jpg
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c.) His staff contains the fire of a dozen red suns:
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3042/gogstaff1.jpg

A few things... I have always taken the Red Sun thing to be about how much power the staff has, not that it can produce Ren Sun... is that urs as well?

If prime can survive the Monarch blast n how powerful that was... can u see Gog's staff being able to replicate or come even close to replicating that kind of power? I'm guessing yes, which begs the question, how did people with less durability than prime survive his blasts?

Galan007
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
A few things... I have always taken the Red Sun thing to be about how much power the staff has, not that it can produce Ren Sun... is that urs as well? I don't think Gog would have specified that his staff contained the fire of a dozen red suns, if it really didn't... Just like I don't think he would have stated that it also housed these powers:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_gog_powers9.jpg

...If it really didn't.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
If prime can survive the Monarch blast n how powerful that was... can u see Gog's staff being able to replicate or come even close to replicating that kind of power? I'm guessing yes, which begs the question, how did people with less durability than prime survive his blasts? I don't think very many characters at all could have survived a universe-busting blast at ground zero, if that's what you're asking..?

Remember, Prime also flew directly through the core of Anti-Monitor (ie. he fully immersed himself in anti-matter energy) with no ill-effect -- something else only a very select few could have endured. So yeah, his durability is unprecedented... But Gog just happens to wield a weapon that exploits the only real weakness he has.

quanchi112
Gog wrecks any knian.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think Gog would have specified that his staff contained the fire of a dozen red suns, if it really didn't... Just like I don't think he would have stated that it also housed these powers:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/th_gog_powers9.jpg

...If it really didn't.

I don't think very many characters at all could have survived a universe-busting blast at ground zero, if that's what you're asking..?

Remember, Prime also flew directly through the core of Anti-Monitor (ie. he fully immersed himself in anti-matter energy) with no ill-effect -- something else only a very select few could have endured. So yeah, his durability is unprecedented... But Gog just happens to wield a weapon that exploits the only real weakness he has. Hmmm I guess I have been viewing this the wrong way this whole time. I thought that was a measurement of how much power the staff had, not kinda of energy the staff expelled. That being said, I guess he would stomp. So do you give Gog the majority over Monarch and Current Thanos?

Galan007
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Hmmm I guess I have been viewing this the wrong way this whole time. I thought that was a measurement of how much power the staff had, not kinda of energy the staff expelled. That being said, I guess he would stomp. So do you give Gog the majority over Monarch and Current Thanos? Like I said above, I don't think Gog would have specified the individual types of energies housed within his staff if that really wasn't the case...

And yes, I could potentially see Gog above Thanos or Monarch for the same reasons he is above most others (ie. uber energy output + asinine speed + energy absorption + power copying. Etc.) Just MO.

Uriel005
Honestly that staff is what puts Gog above SBP imo a dozen red suns isn't really that much energy when you consider a suiciding Guardian couldn't put him down. Also not faster than the flash until I see Gog competing with several flashes doing speed force trap shenanigans I reserve my judgment on his speed. SBP has major Achilles heel with the sun thing and Gog is fast enough to tag him. Unless he's got Monitor based sun armor I don't see him standing a chance. Without the staff I'd back prime in a very close fight.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Uriel005
Honestly that staff is what puts Gog above SBP imo a dozen red suns isn't really that much energy when you consider a suiciding Guardian couldn't put him down. Also not faster than the flash until I see Gog competing with several flashes doing speed force trap shenanigans I reserve my judgment on his speed. SBP has major Achilles heel with the sun thing and Gog is fast enough to tag him. Unless he's got Monitor based sun armor I don't see him standing a chance. Without the staff I'd back prime in a very close fight. Dude, Prime has fled in fear from one flash and been defeated by them in groups. Gog easily tagged the flash like it was nothing whereas Prime fear their speed. Gog would own Prime all day long.

Uriel005
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dude, Prime has fled in fear from one flash and been defeated by them in groups. Gog easily tagged the flash like it was nothing whereas Prime fear their speed. Gog would own Prime all day long.
You wanna try being trapped alone in speed force dimension for a few thousand years and we'll see how you react to the one who put you there. Also Flashes don't regularly do fastest possible movement. I do believe it blew out a kneecap albeit an artificial one. Going at top speed like what happened when the flashes fought SBP is not a common event and is generally the CIS ridiculous move that isn't used because it would end just about any fight in a trillionth of a trillionth of a second.

Galan007
Originally posted by Uriel005
Also not faster than the flash until I see Gog competing with several flashes doing speed force trap shenanigans I reserve my judgment on his speed. Rip Hunter was moving in between nanoseconds, and he still wasn't able to match Gog's speed (see scans posted earlier.) Prime wouldn't even have a chance to defend himself.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Uriel005
You wanna try being trapped alone in speed force dimension for a few thousand years and we'll see how you react to the one who put you there. Also Flashes don't regularly do fastest possible movement. I do believe it blew out a kneecap albeit an artificial one. Going at top speed like what happened when the flashes fought SBP is not a common event and is generally the CIS ridiculous move that isn't used because it would end just about any fight in a trillionth of a trillionth of a second. Dude, I suggest reading the kingdom because Gog would literally own Prime before he knew what hit him. This is a noncontest.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by Galan007
Pretty sure this has been done.

Gog stomps.

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