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DS has come to the shiar homeworld and has chosen to expand his reach...

Team. Vulcan controls the omega blast and gladiator beats darkseid down.

Originally posted by carver9
Team. Vulcan controls the omega blast and gladiator beats darkseid down.

Proof?

it seems plausible to me...excellent

Yeah, Vulcan pretty quickly adapted to Warlock's magical energy. I think if he can't outright manipulate the Omega Beams, he'll blast away and let Kallark go toe to toe with him until he can lock onto the signature and control it.

Pretty sure this was done before

Also Darkseid.

Stealing the OE from DS requires mastery of it, something Vulcan isn't capable of. He lacks the pure evilness and willpower.

Any other energy attack form and I'd say team.

But no way is Vulcan manipulating the OE.

Darkseid 7/10, at least.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Pretty sure this was done before

Also Darkseid.

Stealing the OE from DS requires mastery of it, something Vulcan isn't capable of. He lacks the pure evilness and willpower.

Nowhere did I say he'd steal it from him, I said he could adapt to it, and manipulate it. Like cause it to veer off course, or make a shield capable of blocking it once he got a feel of it's energy signature.

Originally posted by KingD19
Nowhere did I say he'd steal it from him, I said he could adapt to it, and manipulate it. Like cause it to veer off course, or make a shield capable of blocking it once he got a feel of it's energy signature.
That's assuming he withstands a first strike.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's assuming he withstands a first strike.
Which he wouldnt.

That's what Gladiator's for.

Originally posted by KingD19
That's what Gladiator's for.
He also wouldnt.

Your point is moot.

Originally posted by KingD19
That's what Gladiator's for. Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's assuming he withstands a first strike. Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Which he wouldnt.

Team. Darkseid would have his hands full with just Gladiator.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Team. Darkseid would have his hands full with just Gladiator. Explain.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Explain. Gladiator has the same powers as Superman and he needs time and a bit of aid anymore to beat Superman implying even though Gladiator lacks the feats or resourcefulness of Superman he would be more than enough to take on Darkseid by himself and with Vulcan here he's got no chance.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gladiator has the same powers as Superman and he needs time and a bit of aid anymore to beat Superman implying even though Gladiator lacks the feats or resourcefulness of Superman he would be more than enough to take on Darkseid by himself and with Vulcan here he's got no chance. Except DS owns people higher then supes.Ds just jobs to superman.

He won't job here.Thus he can beat both.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Except DS owns people higher then supes.Ds just jobs to superman.

He won't job here.Thus he can beat both. Who does Ds own higher than Supes ?

he doesn't job to Supes, Supes is just better than him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who does Ds own higher than Supes ?

he doesn't job to Supes, Supes is just better than him. He can multiple new gods.And thats not even his true form.

He can beat orion with ease who is almost as strong as supes.

No he jobs to supes.Just like surfer jobs to thanos.Just like apoc jobs to everyone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who does Ds own higher than Supes ?

Orion.
Infinity man.
Validus.
Entire pantheons.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He can multiple new gods.And thats not even his true form.

He can beat orion with ease who is almost as strong as supes.

No he jobs to supes.Just like surfer jobs to thanos.Just like apoc jobs to everyone. Orion can't beat Supes nowadays either and this true form stuff holds no water. When has Ds's true form slaughtered Supes. Orion killed him in countdown also and he doesn't easily best Orion hardly ever.

Multiple writers state the opposite and think Supes is more powerful than Darkseid which means it isn't jobbing it's their opinion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Orion can't beat Supes nowadays either and this true form stuff holds no water. When has Ds's true form slaughtered Supes. Orion killed him in countdown also and he doesn't easily best Orion hardly ever.

Multiple writers state the opposite and think Supes is more powerful than Darkseid which means it isn't jobbing it's their opinion. Because it was orions destiny to kill DS.Just like it was Drax's to kill thanos.You can't accept one and not the other.

It doesn't matter what writers state.And as for who hes owned higher then supes
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Orion.
Infinity man.
Validus.
Entire pantheons. He just plain jobs to supes.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Because it was orions destiny to kill DS.Just like it was Drax's to kill thanos.You can't accept one and not the other.

It doesn't matter what writers state.And as for who hes owned higher then supes
He just plain jobs to supes. It was Orion's destiny which was fulfilled already prior to it was never Drax's destiny it was just his sole purpose. Big difference.

So the writer who gives us the story who decides how these characters match up has no say. Wow. The writer who backs it up with Superman crushing him and that doesn't count either ? It seems nothing counts except your own opinion based off of nothing making you a terrible debater.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Orion.
Infinity man.
Validus.
Entire pantheons. Precrisis I mean things have changed and his powers are tied into those characters that's why he beats them easily. Nowadays he's DD's whipping boy.

Darkseid

DS jobs to Supes but he'd kick these two asses in hard.

Originally posted by The Nuul
DS jobs to Supes but he'd kick these two asses in hard. It isn't jobbing when it keeps on happening coupled with writers agreeing Superman is more powerful.