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Originally posted by byrdgang21
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Surprise buttsex!

LOL at Spidey having a little bit of a boner.

Spiderwoman pacifies Peter then Ironman breaks his head off.

Then Team T2 tagteams Ms Marvel.

cant ms marvel absorb most of what team two does?

It's a pretty uneven fight.

Ms Marvel is the beast here and T2 will have to resort to non energy based trickery to get a win.

This is actually an interesting fight, conceptually: SM edges SM in strength, and his webbing is no joke, but if she can make one of her VB's connect, she can stun him for a take down. IM vs. Ms. is problematic -- Tony has to keep the battle relatively energy free, and focus on body pounding, but they are roughly in the same category strength-wise (if she's un-amped), with her being a touch more maneuverable and he having better defenses (shields, etc).

I'm inclined to give the men a slight majority in this, but Ms could easily turn the tide if she finds a way to amp -- if SM goes down first, the ladies have a chance to take IM down.

Team 1: 6/10, but it honestly could go either way.

Originally posted by tideoftime
This is actually an interesting fight, conceptually: SM edges SM in strength, and his webbing is no joke, but if she can make one of her VB's connect, she can stun him for a take down. IM vs. Ms. is problematic -- Tony has to keep the battle relatively energy free, and focus on body pounding, but they are roughly in the same category strength-wise (if she's un-amped), with her being a touch more maneuverable and he having better defenses (shields, etc).

I'm inclined to give the men a slight majority in this, but Ms could easily turn the tide if she finds a way to amp -- if SM goes down first, the ladies have a chance to take IM down.

Team 1: 6/10, but it honestly could go either way.

DAMN MY TRYING TO ANSWER MULTIPLE POSTS AT THE SAME TIME!

Literally got info/trains of thought crossed in this thread and another thread in *another* forum, tabbed together.

To Clarify: Earlier up, I obviously meant the second SM to be SW(oman), and later I crossed the teams by gender (as the other thread had two females teamed together); my point was that each of the females on *each* team can potentially manage the *opposing* team's males, but it would take them finessing their strengths (Ms. absorbing energy to amp in some manner/Jess trying to make a VB connect before Spidey can web-pin her) before the males can apply their advantages. Thus, making it an interesting cross-combo, with Team 1 (Spidey and Ms.) having the edge over Team 2, though only very marginally...

(Now off to damage control my *other* post, elsewhere...)

Ms. Marvel's always been written a bit tougher than Tony in their squabbles, and Spider Woman can't really do anything to Carol.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Spiderwoman pacifies Peter then Ironman breaks his head off.

Then Team T2 tagteams Ms Marvel. You mean the pheromones? I thought only skrull-Spider Woman had that ability.

Originally posted by Stall_19
LOL at Spidey having a little bit of a boner.

Originally posted by SamZED
You mean the pheromones? I thought only skrull-Spider Woman had that ability.

Nope. That's one of Jess's original abilities/mutant traits (actually, as originally portrayed, it was a touch stronger than presented in later years -- an early SW# actually had her lulling two London bobbies into a trance/stupor with her pheromones. In later interpretations, it was toned down to be more of a plot element than a properly usable ability.) Generally speaking, her pheromones act to attract/allure males while inspiring fear and/or apprehension in females. But it's not an over-the-top thing, more of a background element -- most "proper" (non-support) characters haven't been documented as being overtly affected (hence, Jess' early friendships with Scotty and Lindsay, and most of her hero/villain frenemies don't normally get affected, either). It really isn't a proper ability/effect, in terms of KMC thinking/applicable battles.

Originally posted by SamZED
You mean the pheromones? I thought only skrull-Spider Woman had that ability. I thought she did too.

Bleeding Edge Iron Man may be stronger and more durable than Carol, we dont know yet. Its supposedly stronger, faster and more durable than extremis which is IMO > Carol.

On top of that, he has sonics etc.