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Trion Juggernaut versus one of the strongest Celestials.

Who, in you opinion, will become a winner?

Celestial

Trion got mindraped by X/Marko, and was wrasslin with a giant octopus for a while.

Arishem wins pretty easily IMO

Arshiem

if normal thor can bust through his armor, trion juggernaut kombos him to death

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if normal thor can bust through his armor, trion juggernaut kombos him to death

That was Exitar, and Thor only broke through his armour because the celestial allowed it.

Arishem rips him apart.

Arishem in a stomp.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Trion got mindraped by X/Marko, and was wrasslin with a giant octopus for a while.

Arishem wins pretty easily IMO

Can you give me some scans of him getting mindraped? Apparently, his helmet was impossible to take off, and that is exactly why he was invulnerable to telepathy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Arishem in a stomp.

Can he kill Trion?

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth
Can he kill Trion? Without a doubt.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Without a doubt.

Could you explain to me, how exactly? I mean, Classic Juggernaut stalemated Nightmare in his own realm, has beaten D'Spayre, who could control the very fabric of the universe with his magic, Oblivion couldn't hurt him in his own realm, neither could Thor's Godblast...

So, how exactly is Arishem going to kill Trion?
Do you think he can beat Cyttorak too?

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth
Could you explain to me, how exactly? I mean, Classic Juggernaut stalemated Nightmare in his own realm, has beaten D'Spayre, who could control the very fabric of the universe with his magic, Oblivion couldn't hurt him in his own realm, neither could Thor's Godblast...

So, how exactly is Arishem going to kill Trion?
Do you think he can beat Cyttorak too? Nightmare in his own realm...uh oh lookout buddy.

Arishem is simply above these forces such as godblast, nightmare, etc. He's so powerful he'd crush cyttorak or any juggs.

Arishem has been shown power to be far above cc's which are above this juggs.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nightmare in his own realm...uh oh lookout buddy.

Arishem is simply above these forces such as godblast, nightmare, etc. He's so powerful he'd crush cyttorak or any juggs.

Arishem has been shown power to be far above cc's which are above this juggs.

Exitar is times bigger than Arishem in size. And Thor's Godblast managed to hurt him. Thor's Godblast never hurt Classic Juggernaut, though. Again, do you have scans of Trion Juggernaut being beaten by the X-Men? If I remember correctly, Storm has teleported him out of our dimension...

Arishem easily..Trion Jugg is nowhere near Celectials power level..

Arishem the Judge FTW

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth
Exitar is times bigger than Arishem in size. And Thor's Godblast managed to hurt him. Thor's Godblast never hurt Classic Juggernaut, though. Again, do you have scans of Trion Juggernaut being beaten by the X-Men? If I remember correctly, Storm has teleported him out of our dimension... Incorrect hs blast while it destroyed his shell of hi shead it had no effect on him. He was unphased by this.

Destroying a celestial's shell in and of itself does nothing ask Odin in the destroyer armor.

We've also seen Juggs crushed by Cap. Universe and humiliated by war hulk while these guys are nothing compared to a Celestial.

Arishem destroys juggs

Arishem stomps.

oblivion didn't hurt juggs because he didn't want to. they later made a pact.

iirc oblivion couldnt hurt juggs so he simply took his powers and cast him out.
oblivion now has classic juggs durability...

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
iirc oblivion couldnt hurt juggs so he simply took his powers and cast him out.
oblivion now has classic juggs durability... Oblivions durability>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>classic juggs.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Oblivions durability>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>classic juggs. if you read the comic you will clearly see

1. oblivion being powerless against juggernaut
2. so oblivion takes juggs powers and cast him out.
3. by the way this is after eternity couldnt hurt him and sent him to oblivion thinking he would have a better chance

Trion punches through a dimensional wall, pushes Arishem through it, then seals it back up with his own spit. Trion wins via BFR.

IMO.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if you read the comic you will clearly see

1. oblivion being powerless against juggernaut
2. so oblivion takes juggs powers and cast him out.
3. by the way this is after eternity couldnt hurt him and sent him to oblivion thinking he would have a better chance Lol at Oblivion, a high end abstract, being powerless against regular classic juggernaut.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Incorrect hs blast while it destroyed his shell of hi shead it had no effect on him. He was unphased by this.

Destroying a celestial's shell in and of itself does nothing ask Odin in the destroyer armor.

We've also seen Juggs crushed by Cap. Universe and humiliated by war hulk while these guys are nothing compared to a Celestial.

All right, so cracking a Celestial's armor does nothing to them?

Captain Universe has beaten Juggernaut via telepathy, actually. And that was normal Juggernaut, not Trion Juggernaut.

And wasn't War Hulk physically stronger than any Celestial, because Apocalypse was stating that Hulk can fight the Celestials when given fullest potential of his powers?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Lol at Oblivion, a high end abstract, being powerless against regular classic juggernaut. classic juggs was truly invincible.....

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
classic juggs was truly invincible..... No he wasn't.

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth


And wasn't War Hulk physically stronger than any Celestial, because Apocalypse was stating that Hulk can fight the Celestials when given fullest potential of his powers?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No he wasn't. atleast durable enough to be unphased by Eternity+Oblivion attacks, and durable enough for an abstract to take his powers for themselves

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Not at all you genius

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth
And wasn't War Hulk physically stronger than any Celestial, because Apocalypse was stating that Hulk can fight the Celestials when given fullest potential of his powers? Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
hysterical

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
atleast durable enough to be unphased by Eternity+Oblivion attacks, and durable enough for an abstract to take his powers for themselves For an abstract not be able to hurt him is PIS . Onslaught one shot him didn't he?Originally posted by iceman24567
Not at all you genius

Originally posted by Black bolt z
hysterical just wait untill hulk 622, theres something called "THE HULK FORCE" thats a primal force in the universe which the hulk characters tap into and im not even kidding .

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
just wait untill hulk 622, theres something called "THE HULK FORCE" thats a primal force in the universe which the hulk characters tap into and im not even kidding . I know. Which is just plain stupid.
Originally posted by guy222
Pak: There are going to be some bombshells regarding the Hulk and everything we have seen building up, from Planet Hulk onwards, leads into what we see when the dust from Chaos War settles. Suffice to say that the Hulk and the Hulk family are not going to be the same at the end of this story. The Hulk that walks out of this is going to be on a whole different level to what we have seen before.

Van Lente: There is a major confrontation between Hulk and somebody you never expected coming up immediately after the last issue of Chaos War.

Pak: Right. This is big. You know, this is one of those ones that people ask for but you don't think you will ever see.

Nrama: People on our forums are also asking where are the rest of the Hulk family, since only Banner Hulk seems to be around after this.

Pak: People ask why are there so many damn Hulks now. Then they worry when they are gone!

Van Lente: How many are there now? Six? Seven?

Pak: Do you count A-Bomb? Anyway, the proliferation of Hulks is not random. There is a power, a force, a force that has existed since Mikaboshi was the void at the beginning of everything. We will see this in Chaos War. Alongside the Phoenix Force and other primal forces at the beginning of time there was a sort of Primal Hulk Force. That is what all Hulks share and we will see how it resulted in more Hulks appearing seemingly at random over time. Where does all the Hulk's near-limitless power come from? All that extra mass? Well, the Primal
Hulk Force kind of empowers Hulks, that's what is does and what it has done since the beginning - a spark of it here, a spark of it there. Its power is beyond men and beyond even the Gods of the Pantheons. It is a fundamental part of the universe. So what happens when there is no longer a Hulk family? All the power that was drawn down to earth in all those other Hulks has to go
somewhere - or to someone. And I don't care if you are Abomination, Thor, or Zeus himself, you don't want to be on the wrong side of the guy who ends up with it!

Hulk woot

Originally posted by Black bolt z
For an abstract not be able to hurt him is PIS . Onslaught one shot him didn't he? 100% of the time juggs got hurt was either telepathy or some sonic attack or blocking cyttoraks power from him, never by physical force alone

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
just wait untill hulk 622, theres something called "THE HULK FORCE" thats a primal force in the universe which the hulk characters tap into and im not even kidding . Doesn't make Apocs bs statement true you nodding it is just

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
100% of the time juggs got hurt was either telepathy or some sonic attack or blocking cyttoraks power from him, never by physical force alone Onslaught did it.Originally posted by iceman24567
Doesn't make Apocs bs statement true you nodding it is just

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
classic juggs was truly invincible..... Tell that to Thor.

Originally posted by Galan007
Tell that to Thor. thor paused him for a minute and the ground collaps he never got even tickle.

and the other showing thor blocked cyttoraks power from him.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thor paused him for a minute and the ground collaps he never got even tickle.

and the other showing thor blocked cyttoraks power from him. No it didn't. It stopped his force field. It did nothing to his durability. And thor almost dropped him.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thor paused him for a minute and the ground collaps he never got even tickle.

and the other showing thor blocked cyttoraks power from him. An enchantment from Mjolnir completely negated the force-field that made classic Juggy 'invulnerable'.

Originally posted by Galan007
An enchantment from Mjolnir completely negated the force-field that made classic Juggy 'invulnerable'. This

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth
All right, so cracking a Celestial's armor does nothing to them?

Captain Universe has beaten Juggernaut via telepathy, actually. And that was normal Juggernaut, not Trion Juggernaut.

And wasn't War Hulk physically stronger than any Celestial, because Apocalypse was stating that Hulk can fight the Celestials when given fullest potential of his powers? Yes, absolutely nothing in both scenarios.

Cap still crushed him. War had celestial tech and wasn't even close to Celestial level he was simply beyond juggs coupled with his own powers.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
classic juggs was truly invincible..... Never. This is asinine.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No it didn't. It stopped his force field. It did nothing to his durability. And thor almost dropped him.

Wait, what? It didn't only nullify his forcefield, but it also had taken away his durability, just not fully.



Captain Universe used telepathy, which Juggernaut is vulnerable to. And don't forget - we are talking about Trion Juggernaut here. How do you know that Hulk wasn't close to a Celestial level of strength? Apocalypse was stating it himself



How do you know that it is not true? How can you disprove Apocalypse's words? He was stating it himself, right? Does he not know what he is talking about? At first, I though his statement was BS too, how can Hulk in Celestial technology be physically stronger than Celestials themselves? Standing over 2000 feet tall, with infinite power of matter manipulation, time, space, reality, etc.

But again - how can you refute what Apocalypse was saying?

hulk was beyond celestial level strength

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth
Wait, what? It didn't only nullify his forcefield, but it also had taken away his durability, just not fully.



Captain Universe used telepathy, which Juggernaut is vulnerable to. And don't forget - we are talking about Trion Juggernaut here. How do you know that Hulk wasn't close to a Celestial level of strength? Apocalypse was stating it himself



How do you know that it is not true? How can you disprove Apocalypse's words? He was stating it himself, right? Does he not know what he is talking about? At first, I though his statement was BS too, how can Hulk in Celestial technology be physically stronger than Celestials themselves? Standing over 2000 feet tall, with infinite power of matter manipulation, time, space, reality, etc.

But again - how can you refute what Apocalypse was saying? Because with what we saw on panel he wasn't doing anything even close to Celestial level of power. A Celestial also took a much more powerful godblast than the one aimed at Juggs anyways.Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
hulk was beyond celestial level strength Based on ?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
hulk was beyond celestial level strength Based on nothing.Absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
hulk was beyond celestial level strength What? You do know Celestials don't need strength to one shot Hulk right?

Arishem doesn't even notice this flea, this thread should be closed for spite

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Arishem doesn't even notice this flea, this thread should be closed for spite

indeed

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because with what we saw on panel he wasn't doing anything even close to Celestial level of power. A Celestial also took a much more powerful godblast than the one aimed at Juggs anyways. Based on ?

How do you know that Hulk wasn't even close to a Celestial level of strength? Maybe he was, which is exactly why he stopped Juggernaut.

And also, how do you know that Exitar took a much more powerful Godblast than the one Thor used at Juggernaut?

Is anyone gonna reply?

They can't reply because there is no proof backing their claim up.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
atleast durable enough to be unphased by Eternity+Oblivion attacks, and durable enough for an abstract to take his powers for themselves
Scans of these incidents?

juggernaut rips arishem a new one

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
juggernaut rips arishem a new one Originally posted by carver9
They can't reply because there is no proof backing their claim up. Not saying it wasn't more powerful.But the idea of juggernaut having higher durability then exitar is just laughable.Ha.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Not saying it wasn't more powerful.But the idea of juggernaut having higher durability then exitar is just laughable.Ha.

We really dnt know how durable the juggernaut is since everything but magic has failed at harming him. Again, thor has harmed some of the mot powerful peeps in marvel but failed to put a scratch on juggernaut. He has physically harmed celestials, mangog, the destroyer, hell, he even made galactus scream out in pain also but the juggernaut laughed at thor best efforts "twice".

You all are just in denial. Accept the truth and move on.

Originally posted by carver9
We really dnt know how durable the juggernaut is since everything but magic has failed at harming him. Again, thor has harmed some of the mot powerful peeps in marvel but failed to put a scratch on juggernaut. He has physically harmed celestials, mangog, the destroyer, hell, he even made galactus scream out in pain also but the juggernaut laughed at thor best efforts "twice".

You all are just in denial. Accept the truth and move on. Which makes no sense. Besides the godblast feat and the godblast is overrated, juggernaut has no feats to suggest he has higher durability much less the strength to hurt Arishem.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Which makes no sense. Besides the godblast feat and the godblast is overrated, juggernaut has no feats to suggest he has higher durability much less the strength to hurt Arishem.

I don't think juggernaut does but trion... he is the god of durability and strength. Juggernaut is but a small fraction of trions durablity and look what he has done. He has walked through d'spare blast like it was nothing... a low level skyfather and the thing about it jugs was weakened. Then he was attacked by 6 beings that had the same powerlevel as thor (exemplers) without even getting a scratch and he defeated them.

The stranger blast didn't even harm him. Hulk has as of yet to do any type of physical damage. The entire xmen combined never caused him any damage. Magneto couldn't put a scratch of him and the list goes on.

How is the godblast overated when it has defeated mangog, defeated galactus, harmed celestials, destroyed the armor of the destroyer and the list goes on. The only being that laughed at it was the juggernaut. Juggernaut has been stated as being completely invulnerable on numerous of occasions and he has proven this.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think juggernaut does but trion... he is the god of durability and strength. Juggernaut is but a small fraction of trions durablity and look what he has done. He has walked through d'spare blast like it was nothing... a low level skyfather and the thing about it jugs was weakened. Then he was attacked by 6 beings that had the same powerlevel as thor (exemplers) without even getting a scratch and he defeated them.

The stranger blast didn't even harm him. Hulk has as of yet to do any type of physical damage. The entire xmen combined never caused him any damage. Magneto couldn't put a scratch of him and the list goes on.

How is the godblast overated when it has defeated mangog, defeated galactus, harmed celestials, destroyed the armor of the destroyer and the list goes on. The only being that laughed at it was the juggernaut. Juggernaut has been stated as being completely invulnerable on numerous of occasions and he has proven this. None of those are that impressive.Not when you talk about having abstract durability especially celestial durability.

And its because it has done those things that it is overrated.A herald should not be able to hurt abstracts.

And Arishem still has enough power to vaporize him and juggs still doesn't have enough strength to hurt him.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
None of those are that impressive.Not when you talk about having abstract durability especially celestial durability.

And its because it has done those things that it is overrated.A herald should not be able to hurt abstracts.

And Arishem still has enough power to vaporize him and juggs still doesn't have enough strength to hurt him.

Thor hammer has damaged abstracts. I already named some abstracts that it has damaged, celestials and galactus himself and recently took out a godkiller that was juggling planets.

Why is it overated when on panel proof on "so many of occassions" have showings that trumps the hammer hurting high level being than vice verse. You can't ignore on panel evidence because you don't like the fact that it ruins you argument.

Who has damaged juggernaut that makes you believe that he could be vaporized? I agree, I don't think juggernaut strength is enough to take out a celestial.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor hammer has damaged abstracts. I already named some abstracts that it has damaged, celestials and galactus himself and recently took out a godkiller that was juggling planets.

Why is it overated when on panel proof on "so many of occassions" have showings that trumps the hammer hurting high level being than vice verse. You can't ignore on panel evidence because you don't like the fact that it ruins you argument.

Who has damaged juggernaut that makes you believe that he could be vaporized? I agree, I don't think juggernaut strength is enough to take out a celestial. WHich is just plain ridiculous.I know its what they do but a herald shouldn't be able to do that.

What has happened and what should happen are different.

Didn't onnslaught physically one-shot him?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
WHich is just plain ridiculous.I know its what they do but a herald shouldn't be able to do that.

What has happened and what should happen are different.

Didn't onnslaught physically one-shot him?

Onlaught didn't one shot him in a ko fashion... he bfred him with a psychic punch but juggernaut was still awake after all of this (as soon as he hit the ground, he jumped up and fought bishop). By the way, you can't use that as evidence since juggernaut was depowered during that stage. He wasn't even at 50% of his power, cytorrak wa slowly taking his power from him.

Another thing, the writer himself stated that onslaught was more powerful than a celestial and this was before he was at full power (even though I don't believe it) so again, there was a lot of plot involved in that story.

Some people don't consider thor just herald and I am one of those people and thor hammer was made from odin himself and it has no limitations and what it has done on panel isn't something to be ignored. A none holdong back thor took out 4 high heralds without too much trouble so him doing things that heralds can't do is understandable.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Which makes no sense. Besides the godblast feat and the godblast is overrated, juggernaut has no feats to suggest he has higher durability much less the strength to hurt Arishem.

The fact that it doesn't make sense to you doesn't make it not true, all right? The Godblast knocked down a hungry Galactus and cracked Exitar's dome, but it didn't leave a scratch on Juggernaut. Apparently, he really is more durable than Celestials. The Ruby of Cyttorak grants him the immunity to physical attacks.
And this is Trion Juggernaut we're talking about here and he is >>>>>>>>>>>>> Classic Juggernaut. He breaks barriers between dimension with his bare hands.

Now, how exactly is Arishem going to vaporize him?

Actually what people see when they see a celestial is the vibranium shell they crafted for themselves on a whim to appear to have some semblence of their former identity before they evolved beyond the need for bodies. How is Trion Juggs gonna smite an intangible force in all likelihood stronger than Cytorrak. It took Odin in the 2000 ft Destroyer armor to take on the 4th Host which is scary because Goblin force got stalemated by a host and imprisoned so what does that say about Odin when Gob force is = Phoenix. and was unable to be stopped by Galactus.

Back on topic the Judge drops the hammer of pwn on Juggernaut and ends it or just outright overcomes the gods backing him and warps him out of reality.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Actually what people see when they see a celestial is the vibranium shell they crafted for themselves on a whim to appear to have some semblence of their former identity before they evolved beyond the need for bodies. How is Trion Juggs gonna smite an intangible force in all likelihood stronger than Cytorrak. It took Odin in the 2000 ft Destroyer armor to take on the 4th Host which is scary because Goblin force got stalemated by a host and imprisoned so what does that say about Odin when Gob force is = Phoenix. and was unable to be stopped by Galactus.

Back on topic the Judge drops the hammer of pwn on Juggernaut and ends it or just outright overcomes the gods backing him and warps him out of reality.

Trion Juggernaut's attacks are magical, I don't think that intangibility will make much of a difference. He was breaking the barriers between dimensions. And please, provide some proof that Arishem is stronger than Cyttorak. Odin in Destroyer Armor was fighting a host of Celestials, rather than Arishem alone. And please, provide some scans of Goblin Force stalemating the 4th host and being unable to be stopped by Galan.
Thanks.

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth
The fact that it doesn't make sense to you doesn't make it not true, all right? The Godblast knocked down a hungry Galactus and cracked Exitar's dome, but it didn't leave a scratch on Juggernaut. Apparently, he really is more durable than Celestials. The Ruby of Cyttorak grants him the immunity to physical attacks.
And this is Trion Juggernaut we're talking about here and he is >>>>>>>>>>>>> Classic Juggernaut. He breaks barriers between dimension with his bare hands.

Now, how exactly is Arishem going to vaporize him? The godblast that wrecked Exitar's dome was the most powerful one we've ever seen.

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth
How do you know that Hulk wasn't even close to a Celestial level of strength? Maybe he was, which is exactly why he stopped Juggernaut.

And also, how do you know that Exitar took a much more powerful Godblast than the one Thor used at Juggernaut? Because we didn't see anywhere near the power from him to believe so. Celestials would simply treat juggs like the insect he is whereas Hulk had to push himself to stop him.

Do you really need to ask ?

Trion still can't hurt arishem.

arishem doesnt even notice trion

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because we didn't see anywhere near the power from him to believe so. Celestials would simply treat juggs like the insect he is whereas Hulk had to push himself to stop him.

Do you really need to ask ?

We saw that Hulk stopped Juggernaut, while he was in motion. And he couldn't do that before. This is why it is safe to assume that Hulk was very very strong. And Apocalypse himself stated that he is physically more powerful than any Celestial.
Why would Celestials treat Trion Juggernaut like an insect, when Thor's Godblast shattered Exitar's dome, while Trion himself can break through the barriers between dimensions and is invulnerable to physical damage?

Yes, I really need to ask, because all people say that Juggernaut has withstood attacks that hurt Celestials. Who are "supposedly" stronger than Cyttorak, but Cyttorak's avatar is more durable than they are.




Why can't he?



Elaborate, please. Post some feats that would put him above Trion, or even above Cyttorak.

I believe Trion was 30 feet tall

Arishem is 2,000 feet tall

Hence, he's an ant to the Judge

I know you will reference he was punching thru dimensions

Celestials are reality warpers. Arishem has the power to decimate worlds. With a fraction of his power, he sealed off Asgard and two other worlds. He would've destroyed Earth if not for Gaea....the same Gaea who recently empowered Hercules

I just read Trion is strong and rightly so, but below Cosmic beings. Celestials/Galactus/In-Betweener and others are the Cosmic beings

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth
Could you explain to me, how exactly? I mean, Classic Juggernaut stalemated Nightmare in his own realm, has beaten D'Spayre, who could control the very fabric of the universe with his magic, Oblivion couldn't hurt him in his own realm, neither could Thor's Godblast...

So, how exactly is Arishem going to kill Trion?
Do you think he can beat Cyttorak too?

Thor was weakened by some kind of sickness when delivering the godblast. He could barely stand 3 panels earlier. And even still the godblast sent him BACKWARDS. The WWH couldn't even STOP Juggs. To my knowledge nothing else ever sent him backwards.

Originally posted by carver9
Juggernaut has been stated as being completely invulnerable on numerous of occasions and he has proven this.

http://www.comicvine.com/juggernaut/29-1445/all-images/108-212411/thorvsjuggernaut01/105-1519739/

http://www.comicvine.com/thorvsjuggernaut02/105-1519741/

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir163-MagicNegation429.jpg

Congratulations, your first two scans are of current depowered Juggernaut which holds no water to carvers post about Classic Juggernaut and the last is the 2nd fight with Thor in which he used magic to take away his invulnerability which is said in that image.

Originally posted by Lord_Dagoth
We saw that Hulk stopped Juggernaut, while he was in motion. And he couldn't do that before. This is why it is safe to assume that Hulk was very very strong. And Apocalypse himself stated that he is physically more powerful than any Celestial.
Why would Celestials treat Trion Juggernaut like an insect, when Thor's Godblast shattered Exitar's dome, while Trion himself can break through the barriers between dimensions and is invulnerable to physical damage?

Yes, I really need to ask, because all people say that Juggernaut has withstood attacks that hurt Celestials. Who are "supposedly" stronger than Cyttorak, but Cyttorak's avatar is more durable than they are.




Why can't he?



Elaborate, please. Post some feats that would put him above Trion, or even above Cyttorak. Post the scan then. I tire of this lunacy. Comparing war hulk to a celestial is simply insane. You make zero logical points and don't have even a leg to stand on.


The godblast was a lot more powerful than the one that broke his domepiece but Thor couldn't defeat the celestial he did however beat juggs, twice. I mean do you even read these comics ?

He isn't invulnerable to all damage that's something a fanboy would say and we've seen odin affect the multiverse which demolishes punching through dimensions.

Odin is nothing to the Celestials so please get a clue.

Arishem eats his face

Originally posted by Mindset
Arishem eats his face how do you eat your own face?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
how do you eat your own face? Shut up.