Thor + Beta Ray Bill vs Thanos

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keiththegreat
Who wins this one?

The Nuul
lol Thanos megashitstomps.

keiththegreat
Originally posted by The Nuul
lol Thanos megashitstomps.

The Thanos clone that Thor beat was actually more powerful than normal Thanos, thanks to the artifact he had. He was blowing away billions of people in seconds, and supposedly became one with death. Granted Thor had some artifacts, but I don't think this is a stomp by any means.

Thor has fought and defeated Mephisto in his own realm, he's fought and defeated skyfathers, and he just beat GLORY, a being made up of 10,000 gods. Now, I can imagine a scenerio where BRB keeps Thanos occupied and Thor unleashes a godblast.

The Nuul
Anyways, this thread doesnt even need the Thanos fanboys.

Its an auto win for Thanos.

keiththegreat
Here's another thing, when you double the striking power of Mjolnir you get a shockwave of enchanted energy that reverberates throughout "the length and breadth of the entire cosmos" and "simultaneously across all planes of reality!" From Thor #439:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir165-StrikingPower439.jpg

Since Stormbreaker = Mjolnir, this should apply here as well.

TheLordofMurder
This isnt a "megastomp" at all...

Both Thor and Bill can handle any amount of energy Thanos hurls at them; Thor could soak up Thanos's most powerful energy attacks and throw it right back at him with a healthy dose of Anti-Force added for good measure...just like he did against that amped up clone.

And if this is Thor at his best going all out, then while in full Warriors Madness mode, I firmly believe he could dominate Thanos physically...if he puts on the belt of strength in addition to this, then Thanos gets his shit packed in against Thor.

Throw a non-jobbing Bill in there to add support...then no...by no means does Thanos "megastomp" them.

Some of you guys give Thanos waaaaaay too much credit....

TheLordofMurder
Hell, its quite possible that Thor solo's if his Soul Suck ability works on the Mad Titan...

zopzop
I mean it says right there on panel ;

"Not since the Big Bang has such a force been loosed upon the universe" when two Mjolnirs banged against each other.

I guess the whole Infinity Gauntlet saga was overblown compared to two Thors fighting big grin

Thanos dies painfully

the Darkone
I say it's a even split.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Most people know my position regarding Thor and Thanos. At least a non high end Thor. Team edges him out in my opinion or at least splits it.

the Darkone
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Most people know my position regarding Thor and Thanos. At least a non high end Thor. Team edges him out in my opinion or at least splits it.


Wait for it Quan is coming!

TheLordofMurder
We'd better pool our resourses and strengthen our defenses while we still have the chance to do so, as when a certain someone sees this thread, he's going to IMMEDIATELY go into "HYPER-OVERDRIVE" mode and start foaming from the mouth...

At this point, he-who-shall-not-be-named, will open the gates of hell...and chaos and terror will rain down on our defensive positions with an endless shower of war and death to follow!

smile

The Nuul
Quan doesnt even have to try to stomp you guys in this thread. Thanos stomps as is.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by The Nuul
Quan doesnt even have to try to stomp you guys in this thread. Thanos stomps as is.

(mimicks Quans voice)

How do Thor and Bill lose?

zopzop
LOL LoM.

But hey it's right there on panel (two Thors unleashing a shockwave comparable to the Big Bang in power), nothing to discuss. Unless we see something similar from Thanos, there's nothing to discuss.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by The Nuul
Quan doesnt even have to try to stomp you guys in this thread. Thanos stomps as is.

erm

Originally posted by the Darkone
Wait for it Quan is coming!

Meh, let him come. I don't care enough to get into a long drawn out debate. It'd be the same arguments we've had over a dozen times. Pointless.

Prep-Man
Thanos. Can't believe I'm saying this.

SuperiorTech
Thanos wins

iceman24567
Thanos wins

The Nuul
Thanos wins.

BattleMage
Thanos

King Castle
at 1st i was sure i knew who would win till i started reading the arguments..
now i am just plane confused and i got a headache..death

Black bolt z
Originally posted by zopzop
LOL LoM.

But hey it's right there on panel (two Thors unleashing a shockwave comparable to the Big Bang in power), nothing to discuss. Unless we see something similar from Thanos, there's nothing to discuss. Ever heard of a hyperbole laughing out loud

Thanos 10/10.

keiththegreat
Beta Ray Bill is no slouch either. He fought Stardust quite well, and right after that, got clapped between Galactus's 2 hands (Galactus had just fed) and then fell into the center of a star, and survived. And earlier he had resisted 2 black holes.

And as I said, Thor has actually defeated more powerful foes than Thanos one on one, but then again, he's lost to weaker ones.

(Really epic scan: http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27967/722451-damn_super.jpg)

quanchi112
Thanos, easily.

keiththegreat
Thor vs Thanos clone, from Thor vol. 2 #22:

(Now keep in mind this was originally written as THANOS, until Starlin retconned it as a clone....still these fights are epic):

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos01v222.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos02.jpg


Thor (with belt, shield, and gauntlets) vs Thanos clone (who is massively amped. He's actually more powerful than Thanos is normally, as he is blowing away billions of people and has achieved oneness with death...Thanos's ultimate dream), from Thor vol. 2 #25:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos03v225.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos04.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos05.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos06.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos07.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos08.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos09.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos10.jpg

(and again, originally written as Thanos)

Simbon
Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thor vs Thanos clone, from Thor vol. 2 #22:

(Now keep in mind this was originally written as THANOS, until Starlin retconned it as a clone....still these fights are epic):

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos01v222.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos02.jpg


Thor (with belt, shield, and gauntlets) vs Thanos clone (who is massively amped. He's actually more powerful than Thanos is normally, as he is blowing away billions of people and has achieved oneness with death...Thanos's ultimate dream), from Thor vol. 2 #25:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos03v225.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos04.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos05.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos06.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos07.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos08.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos09.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos10.jpg

(and again, originally written as Thanos)

All of this is irrelevant -- everything that has been retconned was, by defintion, originally written as the "real thing". The fact of the matter is that, looking at feats, Thanos utterly outclasses these two (obviously, Quan will say something like this too, but he doesn't carry much weight at this point on account of being the boy who cried Thanos) -- Thanos has, over and over again, repeatedly taken hits from people who can one-shot high heralds (recall what DP Tyrant did to BRB) and kept on fighting. The hammers can absorb energy blasts, but Thanos' forcefields can stop any hammer throws and his force-cubes can slow them down enough to make them easy targets for his amped blows -- the hammerbrothers cannot take the damage that Thanos can dish out, and he can very easily take anything they can throw at him.

Silent Master
The team has what it takes to win, but it'd require them to fight OOC.

Simbon
Originally posted by Silent Master
The team has what it takes to win, but it'd require them to fight OOC.

Yes; if they were able to maintain their distance from Thanos well enough to really hit him w/ a godblast to soften him up, and THEN engage in a melee assault I could see them winning, but that kind of strategic fighting is beyond them, and besides, there's a good chance that it still wouldn't work.

Silent Master
They can also absorb energy which could allow them absorb his blasts and/or drain his shields, or use an EMP to disable his shields and other tech, or trap him in a shield of their own etc etc etc.

King Castle
Thanos can just teleport out of it and summon a force block.. fight that! smile

quanchi112
Originally posted by Silent Master
They can also absorb energy which could allow them absorb his blasts and/or drain his shields, or use an EMP to disable his shields and other tech, or trap him in a shield of their own etc etc etc. Show me Thor ever doing this to Thanos. This isn't powerset vs. powerset. this isn't cbr it's what's in character, sport.

King Castle
Thor has done the shield drain on Juggernaut not sure who else..

quanchi112
Originally posted by King Castle
Thor has done the shield drain on Juggernaut not sure who else.. Even if you go that route like you said forceblock beats either of these two in one shot so even powerset wise Thanos dominates them.

Silent Master
Originally posted by King Castle
Thanos can just teleport out of it and summon a force block.. fight that! smile

When has Thanos ever teleported out of a shield?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Silent Master
When has Thanos ever teleported out of a shield? Thanos quest. laughing out loud Done embarrassing yourself yet ?

PillarofOsiris
Thor has made shields that an enraged Hulk couldn't beat through. He's made shields that absorbed a blast that would have destroyed 1/5 of the universe. They've been described as INDESTRUCTABLE. He's absorbed a galaxy-busting attack and re-directed it to re-ignite a star. He's absorbed the energy from the Presence. He JUST absorbed GLORY's attack and re-directed it at him (the power of 10,000 gods). That attack ripped a hole in reality. He's teleported skyfathers against their will. While I'm not saying Thor > Thanos, its not out of the realm of possibility that Thor can beat him, especially with help from BRB.

King Castle
i am willing to agree with the new guy who is probably not so new..

i give the team a good chance of getting wins and even possible to split or get slight majority

Silent Master
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Thor has made shields that an enraged Hulk couldn't beat through. He's made shields that absorbed a blast that would have destroyed 1/5 of the universe. They've been described as INDESTRUCTABLE. He's absorbed a galaxy-busting attack and re-directed it to re-ignite a star. He's absorbed the energy from the Presence. He JUST absorbed GLORY's attack and re-directed it at him (the power of 10,000 gods). He's teleported skyfathers against their will. That attack ripped a hole in reality. While I'm not saying Thor > Thanos, its not out of the realm of possibility that Thor can beat him, especially with help from BRB.


True, but I'm not even saying they win, I'm just pointing out that they have an extremely versatile powerset, one that if used creatively enough could allow them to defeat Thanos.

Some people just ignored the part of my post where I stated they'd have to fight "OOC".

quanchi112
Originally posted by King Castle
i am willing to agree with the new guy who is probably not so new..

i give the team a good chance of getting wins and even possible to split or get slight majority The new guy doesn't have a clue and is overexaggerating feats and ignoring how Thanos is portrayed on panel as beyond these two.

King Castle
look i came in with a clear idea of who would win, Thanos.

if i were asked do these two have a legitimate chance of kicking his poop in, i would say yes...

aint nothin wrong with acknowledging the other side of the debate and being honest..

PillarofOsiris
Show me Thanos's best strength, speed, durability and energy feats. I'll match or exceed each one with ones from Thor. (no IG or HOTU...I'm talking about normal Thanos).

Silent Master
Originally posted by King Castle
look i came in with a clear idea of who would win, Thanos.

if i were asked do these two have a legitimate chance of kicking his poop in, i would say yes...

aint nothin wrong with acknowledging the other side of the debate and being honest..

He'll never listen, he actually thinks Odin beating the crap out Thanos for the entire fight is proof that they stalemated and that Thanos would have won if they kept fighting.

quanchi112
Originally posted by King Castle
look i came in with a clear idea of who would win, Thanos.

if i were asked do these two have a legitimate chance of kicking his poop in, i would say yes...

aint nothin wrong with acknowledging the other side of the debate and being honest.. Their argument is inherently flawed whereas mine supports how these characters are portrayed in the same stories and in their own stories.Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Show me Thanos's best strength, speed, durability and energy feats. I'll match or exceed each one with ones from Thor. (no IG or HOTU...I'm talking about normal Thanos). Feat don't determine these matchups alone, new guy.

King Castle
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Show me Thanos's best strength, speed, durability and energy feats. I'll match or exceed each one with ones from Thor. (no IG or HOTU...I'm talking about normal Thanos). we dont simply go by certain feats... we also go with how they legitimately use their powers in combat and how they stack up with known heroes or villains

this isnt the comic book Olympics where a character loses by default b/c he didnt enter.

having said that Thanos doesnt have a bench pressing feat nor a Triathlon not that it would matter in a fight with these known beings who we know just how strong and durable they are when they engage in battle with multiple characters.

Badabing
Thanos is the nail, Thor and BRB have the hammers. Tnanos loses.

King Castle
only if he is naked just reborn and is hit with exotic anti matter attack.. (maybe)

honestly at the top of his game Thanos would be hard to put down especially since he would be more willing to try to end it as quickly as possible.

Slaanesh
Thanos..the hammer bros is not in his league..

bbrem123
Originally posted by Slaanesh
Thanos..the hammer bros is not in his league..

vince_slice
Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thor vs Thanos clone, from Thor vol. 2 #22:

(Now keep in mind this was originally written as THANOS, until Starlin retconned it as a clone....still these fights are epic):

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos01v222.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos02.jpg


This is what would of happened if Odin didn't intervene

Thor V2 #22:
Thanos uses his eyebeams on Thor (Odin saw this in a vision of the future, and so set in motion events that would stop it, so Thor lived, but it would have happened otherwise)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Thor22i.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Thor22ii.jpg

Those eye-beams that would of killed Thor were shot back at the Thanosi with 100x more power in those scans you posted. But the Thanosi got right back up without a scratch. Goes to show how much more durable he was.

celeyhyga17
Thanos wins easy...

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Simbon
The fact of the matter is that, looking at feats, Thanos utterly outclasses these two

I'll take that bet.

Originally posted by Simbon
Thanos has, over and over again, repeatedly taken hits from people who can one-shot high heralds (recall what DP Tyrant did to BRB) and kept on fighting.

So nothing Thor hasn't done?

Originally posted by Simbon
The hammers can absorb energy blasts, but Thanos' forcefields can stop any hammer throws and his force-cubes can slow them down enough to make them easy targets for his amped blows -- the hammerbrothers cannot take the damage that Thanos can dish out, and he can very easily take anything they can throw at him.

Thanos uses force blocks? Fine, Thor does this:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Mjolnir19.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Mjolnir20.jpg

The rest is you just plain underestimating the Team. Particularity Thor. Just this week, he was evenly trading blows with a Twilight Sword amped Hela. Thanos isn't more powerful than what Thor can handle.

quanchi112
@ Rage

Yes, Thanos is despite your inability to look at how these two are portrayed on panel against each other or versus similar opponents.

Thor's gone doen to the ufoes and Thanos has already taken Thor's best with the power gem for sheer sport. I could care less about hela Thanos has taken on Thor directly and easily beaten him with the power gem.

Thanos is beyond Thor and always has been.

Nihilist
Thanos win.

laughing out loud at some of the Thor arguments.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by quanchi112
@ Rage

Yes, Thanos is despite your inability to look at how these two are portrayed on panel against each other or versus similar opponents.

Thor's gone doen to the ufoes and Thanos has already taken Thor's best with the power gem for sheer sport. I could care less about hela Thanos has taken on Thor directly and easily beaten him with the power gem.

Thanos is beyond Thor and always has been.

Nope.

Stop lying you liar. When has Thor ever gone down to the U-Foes?

And I could care less about the nonsense you spout.

Lying's a sin.

P.S. Mjolnir can create Anti-Matter.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AntiMatterParticles.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/quanfail.jpg

TheLordofMurder
Thor 1 shots Thanos with Soul Suck!

Happy Dance

quanchi112
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nope.

Stop lying you liar. When has Thor ever gone down to the U-Foes?

And I could care less about the nonsense you spout.

Lying's a sin.

P.S. Mjolnir can create Anti-Matter.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AntiMatterParticles.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/quanfail.jpg In siege. I guess you don't even know about Thor's major appearances anymore.

An anti matter bomb only destroyed a weakened Thanos' body to which he came back so it can't even beat him anyways either way you look at it. How does it feel being outclassed by me at every turn ?

smileOriginally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thor 1 shots Thanos with Soul Suck!

Happy Dance Prove it.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by quanchi112
In siege. I guess you don't even know about Thor's major appearances anymore.

An anti matter bomb only destroyed a weakened Thanos' body to which he came back so it can't even beat him anyways either way you look at it. How does it feel being outclassed by me at every turn ?

smile

The U-Foes never beat Thor in Siege.

Prove that Thanos was still weakened and I'll concede.

Thor destroys his body, then teleports Thanos into a black hole where his torn apart forever and ever.

leonidas
yeah, thanos.

vince_slice
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The U-Foes never beat Thor in Siege.

Prove that Thanos was still weakened and I'll concede.

Thor destroys his body, then teleports Thanos into a black hole where his torn apart forever and ever.

TI #4 Mantis mentions Thanos still recovering and how he recovered enough power so that they couldn't mindlock him. No where does it say he regained his full powers. In fact no where in the entire 6 issues does it say Thanos fully recovered, so it's likely that even when Thanos was facing Mar-vell he wasn't fully recovered. If you think he did, provide proof.

On top of that...

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=3973564&postcount=1908

"It's pretty simple, really. Drax has other powers that precent Thanos' natural Eternal-atom-control thing from working when he's around. Remember, Drax was created to kill Thanos. He probably couldn't beat Thor in a fight, heck, he'd have a tough time beating Wolverine perhaps, but Thanos he can kill."

-Andy Schmidt, Marvel editor

Drax's mere presence inhibits Thanos' ability to control his own molecules. So when Drax attacks Thanos his durability is always depowered. That's how Drax is Thanos' kryptonite according to the editor. So when Drax used the anti-matter bomb not only was Thanos not fully recovered, his durability and ability to control his own molecules was inhibited. That sounds pretty depowered to me.

This makes sense since tanking anti-matter really shouldn't be a problem with someone who can control their own molecules.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by vince_slice
TI #4 Mantis mentions Thanos still recovering and how he recovered enough power so that they couldn't mindlock him. No where does it say he regained his full powers. In fact no where in the entire 6 issues does it say Thanos fully recovered, so it's likely that even when Thanos was facing Mar-vell he wasn't fully recovered. If you think he did, provide proof.

I'm having a debate with Quanchi. I'm aware of what was said and not said in the event.

Originally posted by vince_slice
"On top of that...

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=3973564&postcount=1908

It's pretty simple, really. Drax has other powers that precent Thanos' natural Eternal-atom-control thing from working when he's around. Remember, Drax was created to kill Thanos. He probably couldn't beat Thor in a fight, heck, he'd have a tough time beating Wolverine perhaps, but Thanos he can kill."

-Andy Schmidt, Marvel editor

Drax's mere presence inhibits Thanos' ability to control his own molecules. So when Drax attacks Thanos his durability is always depowered. That's how Drax is Thanos' kryptonite according to the editor. So when Drax used the anti-matter bomb not only was Thanos not fully recovered, his durability and ability to control his own molecules was inhibited. That sounds pretty depowered to me.

This makes sense since tanking anti-matter really shouldn't be a problem with someone who can control their own molecules.

His referring to Annihilation is he not? That seemed to be an isolated incident (The whole glowing thing and ripping through force fields).

Unless he enters that mode again, I do not believe his inhibiting Thanos in anyway.

vince_slice
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm having a debate with Quanchi. I'm aware of what was said and not said in the event.



His referring to Annihilation is he not? That seemed to be an isolated incident (The whole glowing thing and ripping through force fields).

Unless he enters that mode again, I do not believe his inhibiting Thanos in anyway.

He is, but Drax is displayed in TI to still have the same imperative because he mentioned in TI how it's "engraved" into his soul, and it's also why Drax couldn't control or stop himself from attacking Thanos. This tells us that his anti-Thanos power's aren't in his control, and are automatic.

In Annihilation too Drax didn't turn on his "green glow" it just automatically turned on as soon as Thanos was near, and on top of that Drax couldn't control his behavior too. He attacked Thanos even knowing that Thanos was going to free Galactus. More proof his anti-Thanos powers are automatic.

*edit I just read TI #4 again and Mantis confirms that Drax's powers aren't under his concious control.

King Castle
the whole Drax thing shat all over the previous writer of Infinity watch when it was stated specifically and out right that Drax rage and need to fight Thanos had been reduced allowing Drax to behave in the presence of Thanos..

Nihilist
Originally posted by King Castle
the whole Drax thing shat all over the previous writer of Infinity watch when it was stated specifically and out right that Drax rage and need to fight Thanos had been reduced allowing Drax to behave in the precess of Thanos.. That all changed during Drax earth fall mini in which he was reborn twice into different incarnations.

King Castle
that still doesnt trumphs the manipulation of an all powerful being adam warlock when he was supreme..

the argument and excuse doesnt hold a drop of water being reborn..pfff....

Nihilist
Originally posted by King Castle
that still doesnt trumphs the manipulation of an all powerful being adam warlock when he was supreme..

the argument and excuse doesnt hold a drop of water being reborn..pfff.... You mean the power Warlock gave up and foresaked everything thing he did, and Adam only temp altered Drax whilst in the Infinty watch, Kronos created Drax to keep trying to destroy Thanos untill he did so.

King Castle
The effects of the IG remains unless consciously lifted even after losing the power.......

Kronos<<<<<<<<<Adam Warlock(IG)

i can point the a few alterations Adam Warlock made while supreme that stayed after he gave up the IG..

like i said you cant defend what they did... even with comic logic they just ignored it to write what they wanted to write or outright did not know.

Nihilist
Originally posted by King Castle
The effects of the IG remains unless consciously lifted even after losing the power.......

Kronos<<<<<<<<<Adam Warlock(IG)

i can point the a few alterations Adam Warlock made while supreme that stayed after he gave up the IG..

like i said you cant defend what they did... even with comic logic they just ignored it to write what they wanted to write or outright did not know. Youre missing the simple part about Adam not changing Draxs sole reason for living, it was encoded into his DNA. warlock only made that stip for the Infinty Watch when Thanos was part of it.

Sirius77
Thanos.

Black bolt z
Thanos still wins 10/10.

TheLordofMurder
Hammer time!!

Even though some here refuse to admit it, the team has the "goods" to defeat Thanos; especially if Thor is in full Warriors Madness...

Team 7/10...

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Hammer time!!

Even though some here refuse to admit it, the team has the "goods" to defeat Thanos; especially if Thor is in full Warriors Madness...

Team 7/10... Like?

TheLordofMurder
The ability to absorb and redirect any amount of energy he uses against them?

The ability to go into full Warriors Madness mode and overwhelm him physically?

And, if it works...and there is no reason to believe it wont, Thor just might be able to 1 shot Thanos with Soul Suck.

So yeah...they have the goods to beat Thanos.

Bouboumaster
Thanos shitstomps the team

Sirius77
How are thor or brb going to do anything to thanos if surfer couldn't? I'm not trying to use ABC logic here, I'm just saying.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The ability to absorb and redirect any amount of energy he uses against them?

The ability to go into full Warriors Madness mode and overwhelm him physically?

And, if it works...and there is no reason to believe it wont, Thor just might be able to 1 shot Thanos with Soul Suck.

So yeah...they have the goods to beat Thanos. And how often has thor done this?

And how often doe he do this? And even if he does thanos has gone toe to toe with him with the PG. That would be above WM thor.

Please show thor quickly, with no prep, absorbing someone's soul. And please show it 3 times.

Answer my questions above and they do.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Black bolt z
And how often has thor done this?

And how often doe he do this? And even if he does thanos has gone toe to toe with him with the PG. That would be above WM thor.

Please show thor quickly, with no prep, absorbing someone's soul. And please show it 3 times.

Answer my questions above and they do.

When Thor had the power gem during the Blood and Thunder arc, every single time he tapped into it subconsciously, it was directly stated on panel that he was doing so...

NOT ONCE was this stated when Thor took on Thanos when he had the power gem...not one single time.

Thus, unless someone has definitive evidence to the contrary, Thor did not tap into the power gem when fighting Thanos...


As for Thor using Soul Suck, its a forbidden thing to do; which is directly stated on panel in the issue of Thor where he kills Loki with it...so no, unless some extreme circumstance exists, he wont use it.

BUT, this is a forum fight and not a comicbook...no PIS here or compelling story to write...so with Thanos being one evil muthaf****R who is beyond redemption, there is no reason for Thor not to destroy Thanos in this fashion.


Again, I firmly believe that the duo has the means to defeat Thanos; especially without PIS being involved...

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
When Thor had the power gem during the Blood and Thunder arc, every single time he tapped into it subconsciously, it was directly stated on panel that he was doing so...

NOT ONCE was this stated when Thor took on Thanos when he had the power gem...not one single time.

Thus, unless someone has definitive evidence to the contrary, Thor did not tap into the power gem when fighting Thanos...


As for Thor using Soul Suck, its a forbidden thing to do; which is directly stated on panel in the issue of Thor where he kills Loki with it...so no, unless some extreme circumstance exists, he wont use it.

BUT, this is a forum fight and not a comicbook...no PIS here or compelling story to write...so with Thanos being one evil muthaf****R who is beyond redemption, there is no reason for Thor not to destroy Thanos in this fashion.


Again, I firmly believe that the duo has the means to defeat Thanos; especially without PIS being involved... No it didn't.

Your previous statement is false so this is irrelevant

Your making the claim he wasn't. Prove he wasn't.

OK so irrelevant

In what fashion? Soul suck? Please show him doing this 3 times.

No they don't.

TheLordofMurder
Dude...I own and I read the entire Blood and Thunder arc several times; it was exactly as I stated.

Being on a ps3, I cant post scans, but ANYONE can verify this; it was NEVER stated anywhere in that comic that Thor fought Thanos (Silver Surfer 88 to be exact) that Thor was tapping into the power gem...

Unlike you Black Bolt, I actually I read everything I comment on; I dont have to sometimes go on what others say for information...

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Dude...I own and I read the entire Blood and Thunder arc several times; it was exactly as I stated.

Being on a ps3, I cant post scans, but ANYONE can verify this; it was NEVER stated anywhere in that comic that Thor fought Thanos (Silver Surfer 88 to be exact) that Thor was tapping into the power gem...

Unlike you Black Bolt, I actually I read everything I comment on; I dont have to sometimes go on what others say for information... No it isn't. So if its not stated on panel it didn't happen? I guess surfer doesn't fly and the sky just moves. Or doom doesn't think he just builds random devices.

Why does it need to be stated if he had the gem and was obviously using it? Thanos 2 shots regular thor before. But now for some reason he's only stalemating him laughing out loud

SO do I. So please start using said information that you claim to have.

TheLordofMurder
Thanos never two shot Thor; he stunned him and Thor was back on a feet a few panels later...

The fact of the matter is that during Blood and Thunder, the writters pointed out every single instance in which Thor was tappning into the gem...its all there in Blood and Thunder.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thanos never two shot Thor; he stunned him and Thor was back on a feet a few panels later...

The fact of the matter is that during Blood and Thunder, the writters pointed out every single instance in which Thor was tappning into the gem...its all there in Blood and Thunder. No. They didn't. Just because it doesn't say that they do it doesn't mean they don't. I mean thor should not be able to wreck the IW.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Black bolt z
No. They didn't. Just because it doesn't say that they do it doesn't mean they don't. I mean thor should not be able to wreck the IW.

Do you have any proof that Thor was tapping into the power gem against Thanos? LoL...

Also, Thor should be able to wreck the IW; he is more powerful than any of them and he wasnt holding back...

And other than Drax, none of them have the durability to stand against him for any siginifcant period of time...

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Do you have any proof that Thor was tapping into the power gem against Thanos? LoL...

Also, Thor should be able to wreck the IW; he is more powerful than any of them and he wasnt holding back...

And other than Drax, none of them have the durability to stand against him for any siginifcant period of time... Do you have any proof to the contrary? Your the one making the claim. Back it up.

No hes not no expression. Dumb Drax alone should have been able to beat him. Add the power gem, Gamora, Adam, and Moondragon and they should have won very easily.

And Maxam. And possibly Adam.

They should have wrecked him.

TheLordofMurder
My proof is that it was never stated on panel that Thor was tapping into the gem; you said I was wrong...

So since it was never stated on panel (and its been stated on panel in previous issues of Blood and Thunder when Thor tapped into it), I have satisfied my arguement...now its time for you to provide proof that I am wrong and that Thor was tapping into the gem.


Thor made Drax wretch up the gem...have you forgetten this? No, you didnt forget; you never read Blood and Thunder so you didnt know this...lol.

Drax has no prayer against Thor without the gem and Thor caused Drax to lose possession of it...

So, no...the IW should lose to Thor in that situation (with Thor being insane of course) every single time...

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
My proof is that it was never stated on panel that Thor was tapping into the gem; you said I was wrong...

So since it was never stated on panel (and its been stated on panel in previous issues of Blood and Thunder when Thor tapped into it), I have satisfied my arguement...now its time for you to provide proof that I am wrong and that Thor was tapping into the gem.


Thor made Drax wretch up the gem...have you forgetten this? No, you didnt forget; you never read Blood and Thunder so you didnt know this...lol.

Drax has no prayer against Thor without the gem and Thor caused Drax to lose possession of it...

So, no...the IW should lose to Thor in that situation (with Thor being insane of course) every single time... So please prove he wasn't.

Except you have yet to prove he wasn't. Just because one time it states he was and nothing has changed since then it means he wasn't.

Nice attempt bashing. Thor shouldn't have been able to do this.

Yes he does. Dumb Drax should beat thor.Especially with the gem.

No they shouldn't. They should stomp him.

TheLordofMurder
Reading isnt a strong point of yours is it? Maybe I should state it this way:

t-HO-r m4d3 dr4z wr37ch up 73h 63m. w!7h0u7 73h 63m, dr4X h45 0 ch4nc3 464!n57 7h0r...

Got it?

Happy Dance

Black bolt z
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Reading isnt a strong point of yours is it? Maybe I should state it this way:

t-HO-r m4d3 dr4z wr37ch up 73h 63m. w!7h0u7 73h 63m, dr4X h45 0 ch4nc3 464!n57 7h0r...

Got it?

Happy Dance Yes...he would have.

And how I understood that I have no idea in hell.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The U-Foes never beat Thor in Siege.

Prove that Thanos was still weakened and I'll concede.

Thor destroys his body, then teleports Thanos into a black hole where his torn apart forever and ever. They had him at their mercy and he was rescued by a woman in a jeep. Not very impressive for the god of thunder. He was unable to return fire while osborne was just talking down to him on live tv.

It's more amusing to let you believe all his power returned.

Thor can't destroy Thanos' body the best he can do is bloody his nose with an amp but that was Thor with an amp and against a less durable Thanos.

Yeah, Thanos mauls them.



Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm having a debate with Quanchi. I'm aware of what was said and not said in the event.



His referring to Annihilation is he not? That seemed to be an isolated incident (The whole glowing thing and ripping through force fields).

Unless he enters that mode again, I do not believe his inhibiting Thanos in anyway. That's trolling then if you were aware of asking for something you yourself already knew. Laughs.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by King Castle
look i came in with a clear idea of who would win, Thanos.

if i were asked do these two have a legitimate chance of kicking his poop in, i would say yes...

aint nothin wrong with acknowledging the other side of the debate and being honest..

What exactly have people said that gave you the indication that they can beat Thanos. Which feats exactly?

King Castle
dont feel like having to explain myself easy answer high end feats should be enough to do it while thanos gets moderate low showings

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by vince_slice
He is, but Drax is displayed in TI to still have the same imperative because he mentioned in TI how it's "engraved" into his soul, and it's also why Drax couldn't control or stop himself from attacking Thanos. This tells us that his anti-Thanos power's aren't in his control, and are automatic.

In Annihilation too Drax didn't turn on his "green glow" it just automatically turned on as soon as Thanos was near, and on top of that Drax couldn't control his behavior too. He attacked Thanos even knowing that Thanos was going to free Galactus. More proof his anti-Thanos powers are automatic.

*edit I just read TI #4 again and Mantis confirms that Drax's powers aren't under his concious control.

This is spot on. Not only do drax powers WORK AUTOMATICALLY and thus effect Thanos AUTOMATICALLY. Thanos was weakened throughout that ENTIRE arc. In the book AFTER drax had killed Thanos... They still referenced Thanos as continuing to get back is strength and still gaining power. That beyond a shadow of a doubt makes it clear that when drax hit Thanos with that Anti-Matter he was weakened.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
When Thor had the power gem during the Blood and Thunder arc, every single time he tapped into it subconsciously, it was directly stated on panel that he was doing so...

NOT ONCE was this stated when Thor took on Thanos when he had the power gem...not one single time.

Thus, unless someone has definitive evidence to the contrary, Thor did not tap into the power gem when fighting Thanos...


As for Thor using Soul Suck, its a forbidden thing to do; which is directly stated on panel in the issue of Thor where he kills Loki with it...so no, unless some extreme circumstance exists, he wont use it.

BUT, this is a forum fight and not a comicbook...no PIS here or compelling story to write...so with Thanos being one evil muthaf****R who is beyond redemption, there is no reason for Thor not to destroy Thanos in this fashion.


Again, I firmly believe that the duo has the means to defeat Thanos; especially without PIS being involved...

Blunder... don't start this again.

WITH the PG AND a NON HOLDING BACK THOR.. couldn't even ge the better of Thanos physically and was easily forceblocked. The same woudl happen here with ease as he doesn't have the PG nor is he in WM. If the OP wanted him in WM he would've made him in that mode. Since he didn't.. there is no "going into WM" for Thor. Even if he did, he would be dealt with.

Second, the soul suck wouldn't work and we've gone over this before many times. Adam Warlock has a better soul suck by far than Thor. Not only is that his schtick and special move but he's been backed by the soul gem before and believed IT WOULDN'T work on Thanos. If Warlock (who knows Thanos better than anyone) doesn't think his schtick attack which he knows very well will work.. what on God's Green Earth makes you believe Thor's will?

KuRuPT Thanosi
Originally posted by King Castle
dont feel like having to explain myself easy answer high end feats should be enough to do it while thanos gets moderate low showings

So none then? Comics makes this question VERY easy to answer. We see heroes win all the time and beat people they have no business beating. We see this happen with Thor, Surfer, Captain A., Spideman etc etc. Yet Marvel makes it clear over and over again, who is stronger, but NOT having Thanos lose to these same heroes. Marvel makes it clear that Thanos is just leagues above any high herald and multiple high heralds. So I'm really confused on how you believe the team wins.

King Castle
b/c i am willing to accept characters make mistakes in battles even in forums due to cis...

KuRuPT Thanosi
So the same could apply to thanos as well then right? So in Thanos weakest form to date.. he could've killed Thor if he kept on firing, once he two shot him to his knees and had him dazed and unable to respond?

King Castle
you do realize i am giving the majority win to thanos, right?

KuRuPT Thanosi
Then you would be correct wink

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