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Classic Odin





vs.




The High Evolutionary

Originally posted by Black bolt z
High showing HE beats him.

Average and low lose.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
High showing HE beats him.

Average and low lose.

How exactly does High Evolutionary beat Odin? When has done anything to prove he beats Odin? I think he looked good against Galactus one time but I'm foggy on the details.

He must have some seriously high end feats under his belt I'm forgetting.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How exactly does High Evolutionary beat Odin? When has done anything to prove he beats Odin? I think he looked good against Galactus one time but I'm foggy on the details.

He must have some seriously high end feats under his belt I'm forgetting. Thats why I siad if we use his high end feats he wins.

Middle and low he most likely gets stomped.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How exactly does High Evolutionary beat Odin? When has done anything to prove he beats Odin? I think he looked good against Galactus one time but I'm foggy on the details.

He must have some seriously high end feats under his belt I'm forgetting. devolving galactus, extracting timauts brain, ****ing with the tech inside exitar, evolving himself to an abstractual body.

Both have high end feats, I give Odin 6/10 maybe 7/10.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thats why I siad if we use his high end feats he wins.

Middle and low he most likely gets stomped.

What High end feats does he have?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
devolving galactus, extracting timauts brain, ****ing with the tech inside exitar, evolving himself to an abstractual body.

He didn't devolve Galactus he was trying too.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What High end feats does he have? Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
devolving galactus, extracting timauts brain, ****ing with the tech inside exitar, evolving himself to an abstractual body. And thats why I said only if we use high end feats for HE does he win.

Odin and easily.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
devolving galactus, extracting timauts brain, ****ing with the tech inside exitar, evolving himself to an abstractual body.

Never seen or head of the Galactus thing. Issue? Was this when he experimented on the Dreaming Celestial with the Eternals IIRC? You mean when he opened up the side of the Celestial's foot and went crazy from witnessing the birth of one in the Black Galaxy arc? I'm assuming to the accident resulting with Hercules messing with his equipment. And they were simply weaved into the fabric of the Black Galaxy as a result of the Celestial's.

Frankly, outside of devolving Galactus -which I haven't seen- nothing you've said proves anything in a vs. battle at the very least. This isn't a science fair.

As far as I know, the High Evolutionary has at best come off as Trans level.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And thats why I said only if we use high end feats for HE does he win.

HE battled Galactus and he was getting overpowered he tried to devolve him, it didn't work. It's been a long time since I read the story.

odin

Originally posted by the Darkone
Both have high end feats, I give Odin 9/10 maybe 10/10.

Originally posted by the Darkone
He didn't devolve Galactus he was trying too. he did

Originally posted by the Darkone
HE battled Galactus and he was getting overpowered he tried to devolve him, it didn't work. It's been a long time since I read the story.

Do you have the issue number? I don't trust anything Big C says. He usually has a very skewered interpretation.

I wouldn't be surprised if he came off as more bark than bite.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he did

prove it. show everything not what u want. It was in FF 175.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm assuming to the accident resulting with Hercules messing with his equipment. And they were simply weaved into the fabric of the Black Galaxy as a result of the Celestial's.


no after they were merged with the universe, the celestials captured them and held them in the black galaxy

Originally posted by the Darkone
prove it. show everything not what u want.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-420141-respect-the-high-evolutionary.html

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
no after they were merged with the universe, the celestials captured them and held them in the black galaxy

Not Universe, the Black Galaxy.

I'm pretty certain that it was revealed that they were woven into the fabric of the Black Galaxy in order to acquire the proper ingredients needed in the birthing of the Celestial or something similar. The Celestials were actually containing their bodies in physical canisters until Thor broke them free and they reverted back to normal.

heres a recent refrence of the galactus fight

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/5c953f5i7401/prv7401_pg4.jpg

Okay?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
heres a recent refrence of the galactus fight

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/5c953f5i7401/prv7401_pg4.jpg

should be fixed now.

not back flashes the actually fight please.

I remember that FF 175 marvel got heat from that bad a$$ writing. Odin feat is better his dark self was absorbing the powers of Infinity itself.

I'll have to read up on the fight. If it was impressive, I'll give the Evolutionary his due.

Originally posted by the Darkone
not back flashes the actually fight please.

I remember that FF 175 marvel got heat from that bad a$$ writing. Odin feat is better his dark self was absorbing the powers of Infinity itself.

Fantastic Four 175? Wasn't that the issue with Counter Earth? I remember something stupid like Galactus dying from attempting to consume Impossible Man's planet, turning into a big brain then dying or something.

If he fought the Evolutionary, it must have been incredibly brief for me not to remember it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'll have to read up on the fight. If it was impressive, I'll give the Evolutionary his due.

which fight? g vs HE? if that's the one you're talking about, it wasn't impressive in the least. g actually dodged a blast then ko'd HE with one shot. terrible story. g wanted to absorb counter-earth. not sure what would have happened had the blast hit. doesn't matter. classic HE couldn't definitively beat apocalypse.

odin wins this one handily. HE has next to no feats to put him beyond trans i don't think.

Originally posted by leonidas
which fight? g vs HE? if that's the one you're talking about, it wasn't impressive in the least. g actually dodged a blast then ko'd HE with one shot. terrible story. g wanted to absorb counter-earth. not sure what would have happened had the blast hit. doesn't matter. classic HE couldn't definitively beat apocalypse.

odin wins this one handily. HE has next to no feats to put him beyond trans i don't think.

except that statement from Kubik, but nvm.

Originally posted by Utrigita
except that statement from Kubik, but nvm.

stalemated kubik? where was that?

Thanks for the confirmation bro. I remembered Galactus owning someone in the beginning, but I didn't remember it being the Evolutionary.

I agree, I haven't seen anything to put him above Trans. Frankly, I think his around Thor level.

Originally posted by leonidas
stalemated kubik? where was that?

Statement, not stalemate.

@ rage go to Galactus respect thread page 6. Galactus taps that a$$. Colossuss talks out of his a$$ as usual .

Originally posted by Utrigita
Statement, not stalemate.

ohhhhh... sorry, u. and yeah, that statement doesn't carry much weight when you see what he's done. one-shotted by g--who was hungry at the time--and stalemated by apocalypse. he was briiliant, but his power-level seemed to fluctuate and never really reach its potential.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Fantastic Four 175? Wasn't that the issue with Counter Earth? I remember something stupid like Galactus dying from attempting to consume Impossible Man's planet, turning into a big brain then dying or something.

If he fought the Evolutionary, it must have been incredibly brief for me not to remember it.

Yes FF175, I wan't too sure Galactus dodge HE devolve beam and blasted his a$$ into space.

Colossus = Bshit.

Originally posted by leonidas
ohhhhh... sorry, u. and yeah, that statement doesn't carry much weight when you see what he's done. one-shotted by g--who was hungry at the time--and stalemated by apocalypse. he was briiliant, but his power-level seemed to fluctuate and never really reach its potential.

agreed, my post was also meant to highlight that in theory the guy is very powerful, but his on panel feats is lacking at best.

If we're going High end Odin when he blasted infinity into nothingness.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Yes FF175, I wan't too sure Galactus dodge HE devolve beam and blasted his a$$ into space.

Colossus = Bshit. galactus knew the beam would of devolved him , he even said it after he dodge it, but high evo still ended up devolving him at the end.

high evolutionary wasnt knocked out by galactus blast by the way, he just got knocked across the universe, he came back a few panels later and cured galactus hunger by devolving him

Originally posted by leonidas
stalemated kubik? where was that? kubic stated that high evolutionary was tiers above him

krovac called him the most evolved being in the universe

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
galactus knew the beam would of devolved him , he even said it after he dodge it, but high evo still ended up devolving him at the end.

high evolutionary wasnt knocked out by galactus blast by the way, he just got knocked across the universe, he came back a few panels later and cured galactus hunger by devolving him


and where is this proof!

post the scan of the entire fight

uh yeah!



That still wouldn't change the fact that Odin at his peak will sh** stomp HE who is high trans at best.

actually i will

galactus and HE trade blast for a few panels (there blast stalemates each others multiple times)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/50320/957916-957550_ffgalactus4zu2_super_super.jpg

He blast galactus with a devolve beam, galactus says himself it would of devolved him so he dodges it and blast high evolutionary across the universe (actually it kind look liked he teleported him to the negative zone)
WHICH IS CALLED BFR
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27874/957547-ffgalactus5nx4_super.jpg


high evolutionary later comes back and devolves galactus, into a giant brain mass











So who won the fight? High Evolutionary......

I already know bout this, where is Galactus devolved?

Originally posted by the Darkone
I already know bout this, where is Galactus devolved? scan doesnt work, but high evo cured galactus hunger and devolved him to save his life, im pretty sure someone can confirm this

If Galactus was devolved that still won't help HE against Odin. Odin high end feats a greater. HE would have problems with a high end magic user like Odin.

Im out watching Auburn and Oregon

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think his around Thor level. can thor do this?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1544499-heavengers3vp3.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1544500-heavengers4tu5.jpg

one shotted hulk, he wasnt shown the rest of the comic.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
can thor do this?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1544499-heavengers3vp3.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1544500-heavengers4tu5.jpg

one shotted hulk, he wasnt shown the rest of the comic.

Uh yes he could, it is within Thor power set.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Uh yes he could, it is within Thor power set. show me a scan of thor one shotting hulk then

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
show me a scan of thor one shotting hulk then

Show where Thor cant BFR Hulk don't be that damn anal. It's in Thor power set, hello Thor is a warrior God 10/10 he is going too throw down unless innocent bystanders will get hurt. HE Bfr Hulk is that suppose to mean something to Odin who can BFR the human with a thought GTOH with that sh**. Odin turns HE into his toilet.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Show where Thor cant BFR Hulk don't be that damn anal. It's in Thor power set, hello Thor is a warrior God 10/10 he is going too throw down unless innocent bystanders will get hurt. HE Bfr Hulk is that suppose to mean something to Odin who can BFR the human with a thought GTOH with that sh**. Odin turns HE into his toilet. thats not a bfr, thats a knock out buddy
if thats a bfr than odin also bfrd silver surfer when he fought thanos....

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thats not a bfr, thats a knock out buddy
if thats a bfr than odin also bfrd silver surfer when he fought thanos....


No sh** sherlock, but that BFR Hulk pic has to do with Odin beating the sh** out of HE. HE vs Galactus can go so far, Odin will do much worse or just beat the beat sh** out HE. Odin reaches giant it's game over for HE.

Odin wins.

Originally posted by the Darkone
No sh** sherlock, but that BFR Hulk pic has to do with Odin beating the sh** out of HE. HE vs Galactus can go so far, Odin will do much worse or just beat the beat sh** out HE. Odin reaches giant it's game over for HE. Huh?

it isn't a Bfr pic. So stop being pissy. Hulk is knocked out. It happened off panel so we don't know what did it.

And while your grammar is awful... It is true that a hulk scan doesn't tell us any relation to Odin vs he.

And I gotta say that I'm not sure what a devolve blast would do if anything... It's science based vs magic based... It may very well have no effect who knows...

odin

If he really DEVOLVED Galactus, what chance does Odin have?

Odin beats the shit out of HE.

zopzop yeah good question /point i was thinking if H.E couldnt take down hulk with his powerfull blast maybe odin could get the better of him etc

Originally posted by ozz81
zopzop yeah good question /point i was thinking if H.E couldnt take down hulk with his powerfull blast maybe odin could get the better of him etc He took him down with a second blast that knocked him out cold

Also without prep odin, with prep HE

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
He took him down with a second blast that knocked him out cold

Also without prep odin, with prep HE

cool is there a scan of it ,must be in resect forum??

Originally posted by ozz81
cool is there a scan of it ,must be in resect forum?? Its posted here in this thread by me

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
can thor do this?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1544499-heavengers3vp3.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1544500-heavengers4tu5.jpg

one shotted hulk, he wasnt shown the rest of the comic.

Has he? No.

Can he? Based on feats, I don't see why Thor couldn't KO Grey Hulk. Especially if we're left to speculate just how that KO occured.

OMG, go HE!

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/3282144.html

Also i think people forgot that current HE now has a fraction of galactus power and is now The World Builder

Silver Surfer has a fraction of Galactus' power...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Silver Surfer has a fraction of Galactus' power... enough of it to make a herald on par with surfer, he made 2 heralds iirc

But he was now seen as a part of the cosmic balance

I'm just saying an ill-defined fraction of Galactus' power isn't enough to make HE a threat to Odin, especially Odin in his prime.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm just saying an ill-defined fraction of Galactus' power isn't enough to make HE a threat to Odin, especially Odin in his prime. With prep he is threat to odin

And if Odin has prep as well?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And if Odin has prep as well? HE still wins imo, the guy altered celestals, turned galactus to a brain etc with prep

Lets see odin do anything near that with prep

Also he hacked the destroyer armor

Giving HE one sided prep is one thing.

Putting him against someone already more powerful than he is with the same time to prep is another.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Giving HE one sided prep is one thing.

Putting him against someone already more powerful than he is with the same time to prep is another. He is far smarter than odin, read my post

Whats prep if odin gets devolved to a brain as soon as the fight starts?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
He is far smarter than odin, read my post

Whats prep if odin gets devolved to a brain as soon as the fight starts?

What's prep if Odin just begins destroying galaxies as soon as the fight starts?

There's no way in hell that the High Evolutionary could challenge Odin in a straight up fight most of the time.

For a huge portion of his history as I've seen, his Herald level with an intellect that allows him to do some impressive stuff but in raw combat power? A fight between him with Thor or Surfer would be competitive. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure he avoided a direct confrontation with Surfer recently due to his power level or what not.

Besides, High Evolutionary is no Dr. Doom.

HE is above herald level and has some feats that rival some of Doom's best with or without external powersource.

He's one of the most coward fighters in the universe though.

Odin wins -- those scans are utter BS, how the hell does Galactus get a fatal heartburn? Who's to say that Galactus didn't allow HE to devolve him knowing that his ship will absorb his energies thus allowing himself to be recreated. Galactus probably thanked HE in what Reed considered his final words. IF galactus wants to fight HE, he will probably shield himself from the ray or counter it. In order for HE to win, he will have to suprise and one shot galactus. I don't see that happening. Same with Odin, on a lower scale.

Here, for those who are "curious" as to what transpired in FF 175

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd89/ils411/ff%20175/th_FF175_03.jpg
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here's the rest of it
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