Cross Genre: Ryu & Ken Vs Shang-Chi & Iron Fist!

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Prep-Man
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/15388/1338442-evilryu_svccomic_large.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/395779-10835-ken_large.jpg

vs

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/204998-90387-shang-chi_large.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/71666/1547097-3_large.jpg

psycho gundam
haduken spam x2 + shoryukens when team 2 decide to jump over them.

flowchart shoto's win, just like they do online

Dum Dum Dugan
comic form or video game?

chomperx9
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
comic form or video game? gay anime form probably

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
comic form or video game?

Whatev you think is best.

Lord_Talron
finally these threads have pictures, i love you man!

Tha C-Master
Highest forms stomp, middle forms win a good majority, lowest showings draw or lose a majority. Ryu and Ken of course.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Highest forms stomp, middle forms win a good majority, lowest showings draw or lose a majority. Ryu and Ken of course.

What has the highest forms done?

srankmissingnin
I'm only familiar with the UDON DDP comic, and Iron Fist and Shang-Chi stomp em. Not sure about the anime, but I would say as a rule any character who's movements can be fallowed by my eyes would get blitzed by any top tier street.

the ninjak
The Anime versions in the series Street Fighter V could see lines of influence eminating from parts of their opponents bodies.
Lines coming from knees feet fists etc which allowed the Shotokan Bros to see where the opponent would strike and land next. It's just a matter of Speed Strength and Power after that.
12:00 onwards.
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Later in the final fight of the series after Ken unleashed a huge dragon rising attack on Bison.
Ryu discovered that his Chi could harness and negate Bison's Psycho Force. And eventually had beaten Bison up shortly after.

Ken and Ryu in Street Fighter Alpha the movie were bullet dodgers and had impressive strength. And Ryu unleashed the Dark Hadon in it unleashing a massive Chi attack.
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Prep-Man
1st one doesnt work.

the ninjak
Street Fighter: V feats don't count? In it it's a power of the Hadou. It shows his opponents intentions.

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Prep-Man
What has the highest forms done? Probably the SNK vs Capcom comic, punching though reality, stuff like that.Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm only familiar with the UDON DDP comic, and Iron Fist and Shang-Chi stomp em. Not sure about the anime, but I would say as a rule any character who's movements can be fallowed by my eyes would get blitzed by any top tier street. Ryu and Ken are high meta on average though. Ryu can walk between bullets. The stuff you are talking about they can do easily, the problem is, they are pretty much Iron Fist, with superhuman stats. Better fighters too. UDON is their lowest form I believe.

Q99
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm only familiar with the UDON DDP comic, and Iron Fist and Shang-Chi stomp em.


You sure about that? Here's a Cammy/Chun Li fight

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/Q99/SFcammyvschunli4.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/Q99/SFcammyvschunli6.jpg

Cammy kicks her like 20-30 feet in the air, lands, brushes herself off after being inspired by a photo of her father, then does a Kikosho that wrecks *multiple* cars and the ground underneath them. Cammy's hurt but not KOed by all of this.

So they've got some killer stats.

Tha C-Master
I never understood why people consider them to be under high street. Maybe it's the name. They are definitely more powerful than Marvel/DC Streets. Except maybe Dan. Even in 2v when they were teens they managed to parry tons of projectiles with no trouble. From multiple people, at the same time. Definitely Meta.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I never understood why people consider them to be under high street. prob because they're human

illadelph12
Dan would beat most comic book street levelers, then do this:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100702010146/streetfighter/images/7/78/Dan-legendaryTAUNT.gif

Starscream M
Originally posted by illadelph12
Dan would beat most comic book street levelers you can't be serious...dan's moves suck. he's a clown.

Mindset
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I never understood why people consider them to be under high street. Maybe it's the name. They are definitely more powerful than Marvel/DC Streets. Except maybe Dan. Even in 2v when they were teens they managed to parry tons of projectiles with no trouble. From multiple people, at the same time. Definitely Meta. What feats do they have that put them over IF?

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Starscream M
prob because they're human Human characters that do things like wreck cars and sink islands and other things amongst that. DBZ had humans, Marvel has powerful humans. It's terrible logic. Typical feat skewing KMC logic. They're basically Iron Fist with legit superhuman stats on *top* of their chi manip.

illadelph12
Originally posted by Starscream M
you can't be serious...dan's moves suck. he's a clown.

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>>>>>>>> http://www.framehuggers.com/images/Batman.jpg

Yeah, I said it.

Bring it Bada!!!

Tha C-Master
Lol, we should have made a Dan thread. Dan vs Squirrel Girl. The fight for the last laugh! laughing

illadelph12
http://images.wikia.com/streetfighter/images/d/dd/Dan-gem-super5.gif

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100713195320/streetfighter/images/b/b0/Dan-gem-legendtaunt.gif

Mindset
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Human characters that do things like wreck cars and sink islands and other things amongst that. DBZ had humans, Marvel has powerful humans. It's terrible logic. Typical feat skewing KMC logic. They're basically Iron Fist with legit superhuman stats on *top* of their chi manip. IF has super human stats

Tha C-Master
Ryu and Ken and SF'ers in general have higher unamped stats. They're baseline superhuman by a good amount.

Mindset
What have they done that IF can't?

Tha C-Master
Throw a wide range of projectiles that can be fire, sonic, electric, adjust said beam as well. Casually walk between bullets (not aim dodging) pick up massive multiton boulders, hold them for hours and run with them, take on characters (and draw, without plot devices) who can destroy islands and mountains with a mere strike.

Q99
I almost always recommend going UDON only. They don't have island-smashing or walking around for hours with a thousand pounds of boulder (+1 old hermit) on your back, and they do have some of the most consistent showings. They're still rather superhuman though, as the scans I posted show (and Bison and Rose and Akuma are still way stronger than the rest, just not *as* crazy strong, island-smashing or so on).

Sin I AM
when did the voting begin for this thread?

Starscream M
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Throw a wide range of projectiles that can be fire, sonic, electric, adjust said beam as well. Casually walk between bullets (not aim dodging) pick up massive multiton boulders, hold them for hours and run with them, take on characters (and draw, without plot devices) who can destroy islands and mountains with a mere strike. thats the highest end versions right?

I guess if we're going by highend versions, then the SF duo does stomp...too powerful

Tha C-Master
Those are actually Game canon feats.

Originally posted by Q99
I almost always recommend going UDON only. They don't have island-smashing or walking around for hours with a thousand pounds of boulder (+1 old hermit) on your back, and they do have some of the most consistent showings. They're still rather superhuman though, as the scans I posted show (and Bison and Rose and Akuma are still way stronger than the rest, just not *as* crazy strong, island-smashing or so on).

We have to settle these things in the beginning I think. I agree for this matchup it is overkill. But like I said... highest versions stomp, mid versions win a healthy majority. UDON is the best since their opponents are a bit lower end.

I don't think the consistency within one story is an issue, there are just so many stories and retcons it's a big mess. And you know how cross genre's get. People try to do featwars with gaming and anime characters knowing it doesn't work well.

We were just talking about this in the game forum. Even characters like Kratos are the sole protagonist in a game where he eventually wins.

Fighting games have a slew of characters that have to share the spotlight. Yes, guys like Ryu and Chun Li will get more screen time, but they aren't going to have "watch this" feats as much, because it's a different type of media.

Mindset
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Throw a wide range of projectiles that can be fire, sonic, electric, adjust said beam as well. Casually walk between bullets (not aim dodging) pick up massive multiton boulders, hold them for hours and run with them, take on characters (and draw, without plot devices) who can destroy islands and mountains with a mere strike. Danny not being able to fire different types of chi doesn't really mean anything, as long as his destructive capabilities are the same, I've yet to see anything presented showing Ken and Ryu have higher damage output.

Danny casually caught a bullet fired through a wall. He couldn't see the shooter or the aim of the gun.

Danny could draw Hulk, someone above Akuma, for a time until Hulk splattered him across the pavement, but Hulk could do that to Ken, Ryu, and Akuma as well. Also, as far as I know, that's Akuma's greatest feat.

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Mindset
Danny not being able to fire different types of chi doesn't really mean anything, as long as his destructive capabilities are the same, I've yet to see anything presented showing Ken and Ryu have higher damage output.

Danny casually caught a bullet fired through a wall. He couldn't see the shooter or the aim of the gun.

Danny could draw Hulk, someone above Akuma, for a time until Hulk splattered him across the pavement, but Hulk could do that to Ken, Ryu, and Akuma as well. Also, as far as I know, that's Akuma's greatest feat. Danny could stall Hulk, Akuma has too far high offense output and he can teleport amongst other things. Also those feats were casually done, with no charging. Akuma would smoke Iron Fist. Hulk is a toss up, it would have to be a OHK, maybe Raging demon would work, dunno. Hulk can't touch Akuma if he doesn't want him to. Iron Man and Namor have Ko'ed Hulk in a hit come to think of it.

The different chi is important because they all have different abilities.

Actually bullets go around Ryu in some versions, and are completely ineffective.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Mindset
Danny not being able to fire different types of chi doesn't really mean anything, as long as his destructive capabilities are the same, I've yet to see anything presented showing Ken and Ryu have higher damage output.

Danny casually caught a bullet fired through a wall. He couldn't see the shooter or the aim of the gun.


danny has some range in his chi abilities like here
Originally posted by guy222
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5228/na50028.th.jpg


It was a window and to be fair he new they were there and even of there attack
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2778/immortalironfistannual0.th.jpg

Lord_Talron
that IF scan isnt showing a ranged attack...

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