nightmare geese vs shin akuma

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samirerre
nightmare geese vs shin akuma
who will win
im all for geese
what you think ?
also sorry about earlier

Darkstorm Zero
I think this has been done before...

IMO, Shin Akuma would win going by merrit of his feats and powerset outstripping Nightmare Geese by a league or two.

samirerre
are you sure ?
geese would win gameplay wise
all i want to know if he is also stronger by storyline
cmon geese is a ghost
sure akuma is strong but you people give him too much kredits
and he is not that strong
why cant akuma just bomb the land in the actuall fight like when he seanked an island?
also akuma is takuma ripoff
akuma 1994
takuma 1992(as mr karate)

Tha C-Master
Akuma is not weaker than Nightmare Geese, and gameplay wise it's easy to make a cheesy boss. Akuma has always been a great fighting boss. He's technique based and makes you think. Sometimes some of his can be cheesy. But when you have characters that can do a cheap one hit move and win, anybody can do that.

What has Nightmare Geese done that Akuma can't?

I wanted to make this thread.

Darkstorm Zero
C Master beat me to it.

Tha C-Master
We're soulmates.

StyleTime
Akuma would beat the hell out of Geese.

I've stated this in other threads concerning Geese, but I rank him under the top heros/bosskillers/maincharacters of the typical fighting games we see in this forum. Ryu/Hayabusa/Terry/Jin/Kazuya/Nightmare/Ayane/etc should all take the majority from him.

Giving Akuma the win is a simple matter of tier placement. It's as automatic a response as Thanos or Superboy Prime vs a herald.

Tha C-Master
Good post.

samirerre
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Akuma is not weaker than Nightmare Geese, and gameplay wise it's easy to make a cheesy boss. Akuma has always been a great fighting boss. He's technique based and makes you think. Sometimes some of his can be cheesy. But when you have characters that can do a cheap one hit move and win, anybody can do that.

What has Nightmare Geese done that Akuma can't?

I wanted to make this thread. '

well geese is actully original and dosent share moves
akuma is just overrated
c'mon akuma is one of the chepeset boss EVER
in sf2 he was so damn cheap boss
and when ssf4ae shin akuma will be aswell

Tha C-Master
All characters have their fanboys and Akuma is no exception, but no need to push someone where they don't belong.

Yea, that Akuma was a beast lol. Either way Akuma wins.

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by samirerre
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well geese is actully original and dosent share moves
akuma is just overrated
c'mon akuma is one of the chepeset boss EVER
in sf2 he was so damn cheap boss
and when ssf4ae shin akuma will be aswell

Whats with the hate?

Oh, and BTW, Gees does share moves, with Rock...

Tha C-Master
They play differently much like Akuma with Ryu.

samirerre
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
All characters have their fanboys and Akuma is no exception, but no need to push someone where they don't belong.

Yea, that Akuma was a beast lol. Either way Akuma wins.

i dont think he was thbat beast ,more like cheap even more then seth
and igniz

and why you think he would win

Tha C-Master
Yea, back then bosses were nasty and cheap baby boy!

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by samirerre
and why you think he would win

His feats and known powerset simply puts him out of N.Geese's reach.

Tha C-Master
B..b..b..but Nightmare Geese is cheap.

Darkstorm Zero
Cheap 'n' cheezy, But gameplay has little value. stick out tongue

Tha C-Master
Yes it does or you wouldn't play it. You know, good games mean the characters automatically win here.

Darkstorm Zero
I meant for determining vs debates....

Joker... :P

Tha C-Master
Joker? Batman isn't here.

samirerre
well sf2 wasnt hard game even the boss bison werent that hard .
geese was cheap aswell but only on the ff days
in the kof he is balace and you need someskills to use him.
nightmare gesese is just power up ver. like shin akuma
except nightmare is ghost made of qi's
if akukma would do raging demon geese would do raging storm with lightnings from the sky and all.
reguler geese is like draw with akuma
but nightmare is another level for shin
expecialley in gameplay wise .but since everyone is die hard akuma fan then its a draw aswell

Tha C-Master
What about misogi?

samirerre
WHO?

StyleTime
Originally posted by samirerre
but since everyone is die hard akuma fan then its a draw aswell
Darkstorm and C-master are probably fans, but I have fairly neutral feelings towards Akuma.

In any case, we're saying Akuma wins because he's done things that show he is more powerful than Geese; it's got nothing to do with fandom.

Tha C-Master
I don't let my like of a character get in the way, it's silly. Look at Akuma vs Pyron. I see things as I see them. Geese is cool and I like him, no problems there. If you said Nightmare Geese vs Spider-Man I'd go with Geese. Simple.

Darkstorm Zero
Same, I never said Aku was unbeatable, look at the Darkstalkers Gauntet.

Tha C-Master
You just think Morrigan is hot, which why you let her win.

StyleTime
I didn't mean you guys are biased or nuffin' like that. uhuh I'm just telling the OP that fandom didn't factor in to it.

He said we are all diehard Akuma fans. I figured he should know that I don't really care about Akuma.

Tha C-Master
Forget you!!!

We're through!

StyleTime
laughing out loud

Tha C-Master
You'll be calling me later tonight...

StyleTime
Probably.

Tha C-Master
Well get it over with...

samirerre
well im fan of geese but i will not call him unbeatable
the point of thise was to discuss who is better
and all of you keep saying that akuma
but i want to know why?
akuma did many amazing things and no other sf fighter can top him
i ask both gameplay wise and story wise

Darkstorm Zero
Like we said earlier, his feats.

gameplay wise, Akuma has always been simply a cut above, even in CVS2 he was tiered at least 1 tier higher than Geese.

Shin Akuma was simply a monster with many new capabilities added to his arsenal.

Tha C-Master
What has Geese done then?

StyleTime
Originally posted by samirerre
well im fan of geese but i will not call him unbeatable
the point of thise was to discuss who is better
and all of you keep saying that akuma
but i want to know why?
akuma did many amazing things and no other sf fighter can top him
i ask both gameplay wise and story wise
I'll go ahead and toss out a feat, so you can see what we mean.

Akuma ripped apart a submarine by kicking it. Geese hasn't really done anything like that.

samirerre
well in the futur cap will pro' make akuma blow planets and stuff
but im talking bout GAMEPLAY
okay
i give up akuma stronger in the story part
1-akuma
0-geese

StyleTime
I must commend you, samirerre. Most people would be too stubborn to change their stance when presented contrary evidence.

Gameplaywise, I am not sure. Geese was around long before I got into competitive gameplay, so I am not sure how he ranks on every game; however, I think it is generally accepted that Geese is a higher tier than Akuma in Capcom vs SNK 2.

It's been so long since I really looked at that game competitively though. It might have changed.

Tha C-Master
Depends on which version, Akuma can be a gamebreaker or he might be balanced. If Geese is a gamebreaker boss, then of course he's going to beat the watered down player version.

samirerre
c-master
02 um seems to be hes strongest ver.
shin akuma strongest ver. is sfa3\

Tha C-Master
You think so? And do you mean in terms of computer cheese or abilities?

samirerre
in terms of abilities

Tha C-Master
He has less moves than in other version. His AI is tough, SFA2 S. Gouki is arguably tougher.

samirerre
okay
sf3 si akuma
vs
kof 02 um geese

AsbestosFlaygon
Gameplay-wise, Nightmare Geese was cheap. Even cheaper than Shin Akuma of SF3.
(In fact, there was a cheaper boss than S. Akuma in SF3... Gill.)

The strongest version of Akuma we've seen is from SF2 Turbo.
I'm not even sure if that version would win against the SNK Boss Syndrome.

Tha C-Master
Shin Akuma wasn't in SF3, except by hacking the system and playing as him. I see what you mean though.

scum
nightmare geese is not even real
his appearences in the games are not considered cannon

Darkstorm Zero
SF3 2nd Impact had Shin Akuma, but 3rd Strike did not.

Tha C-Master
Only in the arcade version, but you have to dig him out of the system as he was going to be incorporated but they had time issues and didn't put him in there.

samirerre
do you have a proof scum that n-geese isnt real
reguler akuma of sf2 was more cheap then nightmare geese of rbffs(real bout fatal fury speciel)
so how can you say that s-akuma was less cheaper?
eventully both are cheap
the rbffs system can be learned and once you learned how to play well
n-geese wouldnt be much of a problem
to beat shin akuma you need lots of luck

Tha C-Master
Lol he is powerful.

scum
Originally posted by samirerre
do you have a proof scum that n-geese isnt real
reguler akuma of sf2 was more cheap then nightmare geese of rbffs(real bout fatal fury speciel)
so how can you say that s-akuma was less cheaper?
eventully both are cheap
the rbffs system can be learned and once you learned how to play well
n-geese wouldnt be much of a problem
to beat shin akuma you need lots of luck
geese is my favorite fighting game charaacter
but he dies in real bout 1 so all his appearences in fatal fury after that are non cannon

Tha C-Master
How much do you like Geese.

scum
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
How much do you like Geese.
i like him a lot because hes cool and fun to play as
i'm not a fagg0t like you

Tha C-Master
Lol, and how do you know I'm that?

samirerre
lol i ust remembered that the fact that akuma can destroy mateores
arent canon cuz it from the game capcom fighting jam and that game isnt canon
so no akuma cant do that

Darkstorm Zero
*Shakes head* open hostilities again...

what a goddamn chore...

StyleTime
C-Master, what exactly did you do to piss so many people off? I always see some random poster or sock flaming you outta nowhere. LMAO!

Tha C-Master
lol it's part of my appeal. I've had wackos tried to fight me irl. Did you see ihatecmaster?

StyleTime
Yeah, I did see ihatecmaster. Shit was hilarious.

I think you have an undiscovered, passive ability to cause people to either like you or completely devote their lives to antagonizing you.

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by StyleTime
Yeah, I did see ihatecmaster. Shit was hilarious.

I think you have an undiscovered, passive ability to cause people to either like you or completely devote their lives to antagonizing you. My haters tend to be my biggest fans. They spend the most time worried about me and following me around. I think it's suppressed love.

In reality people who are more charismatic invoke stronger reactions from people on both ends of the spectrum, so it is no surprise.

Frisky Dingo
Wow, that guy went from 0 to 100 with N a few posts! U should have your own reality show! Or host a talk show.

Tha C-Master
0-100? Lol.

Like the Tom Leykis show?

samirerre
Originally posted by StyleTime
C-Master, what exactly did you do to piss so many people off? I always see some random poster or sock flaming you outta nowhere. LMAO!

i like him
he can be wierd sometimes but thats ok

Tha C-Master
Weird how?

samirerre
figure out yourself

Tha C-Master
I wanted to know, since you know me so well and all.

Darkstorm Zero
.....

Tha C-Master
Everybody has me figured out in such a short period of time. smile

Darkstorm Zero
The C-Master Mystery is solved ladies and gerbils!

Tha C-Master
Yep, everybody knows more about me than I do.

samirerre
.......
okay

i dont want to talk about that all i want is this tupic solved
most of akuma feats arent canon
akuma seanked island ,okay
thats exacley like the cyrex fatalty of cyrex vs ryu thread

Tha C-Master
Uh... yea they are, they are part of his storyline and canon.

StyleTime
Originally posted by samirerre
.......
okay

i dont want to talk about that all i want is this tupic solved
most of akuma feats arent canon
akuma seanked island ,okay
thats exacley like the cyrex fatalty of cyrex vs ryu thread
Most of Akuma's feats, the ones usually brought up anyway, actually are canon. Cyrax's fatality thing is a different issue altogether.

CHUMZWOLF
akuma would kick any boss snk cn throw at him!

Tha C-Master
I don't know about *any*.

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by samirerre
.......
okay

i dont want to talk about that all i want is this tupic solved
most of akuma feats arent canon
akuma seanked island ,okay
thats exacley like the cyrex fatalty of cyrex vs ryu thread

The Meteor thing is the only one I can think of that is not canon.

The Island Sinker was done in story, as was the Uluru spliting Kongou Kokuretsu Zan and the ship destroying Tenshou Kaireki Jin. The Forest cratering Sekia Koretsu Ha is also potentially canon.

The reason for this? The events that these feats took place are either needed for other characters stories to proceed (Ryu's from SFA2) or have no bearing on anyone elses story at all (IE: they can happen because it does not interfere with anyone elses events at all).

The difference bitween this and Cyrax's fatality, is that all of these events happened in story, and they are not game breakers like blowing up planets. If Akuma ever got to that level, he would be 'a' class Darkstalker tier, probably even more.

Tha C-Master
Nicely said.

samirerre
the cyrex fatality and akuma punching islands are the same thing
both cases show unimaginebla power getting unlished

which game akuma did it
sfa2?

Tha C-Master
One is canon and one is not though.

The mountain punch is SFA2.

samirerre
sr

Tactical Knee
This is basically asking who would win between a human chin or a goose? Well the answer's obvious.

Meioh_Hades
Originally posted by scum
geese is my favorite fighting game charaacter
but he dies in real bout 1 so all his appearences in fatal fury after that are non cannon

In FF continuity Geese id dead in Real Bout Fatal Fury (game is produced in 1995... I don't know if the game's story itself is in the 1995).

But in Kof continuity, Geese seems alive and well in Kof 96.

Since both games are in the same universe, wich is the "true" fate of Geese?

samirerre
i think it will be a while ntill snk will bring him back to kof again
untill then,we know nothing

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