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Larfleeze wins.

How so?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
How so? Too powerful for Waverider. Along with his constructs this isn't close.

How is he too powerful?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
How is he too powerful? He has access to an entire battery of the emotional spectrum. Do you honestly think Waverider is a peer in terms of power ?

He's pure temporal energy. The constructs won't do much, IMO.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
He's pure temporal energy. The constructs won't do much, IMO. You didn't answer my question do you feel waverider is a peer in terms of power or not ?

Yup.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yup. Based on what ?

First, how is Larfleeze going to deal with Waverider? He hasn't battled anyone like him and how will he touch him when he's intangible/ in the time stream?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
First, how is Larfleeze going to deal with Waverider? He hasn't battled anyone like him and how will he touch him when he's intangible/ in the time stream? How did Doomsday deal with him ? Did he touch him ? His constructs along with Larf will be all over him and if a dumb as nails brick can do so an army along with a battery wielder is tagging this guy.

DD adapted to him. Something Larfleeze won't be able to do. He can't teleport, hasn't faced someone who can move 2x the speed of light and has no way at tagging someone who can turn intangible.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
DD adapted to him. Something Larfleeze won't be able to do. He can't teleport, hasn't faced someone who can move 2x the speed of light and has no way at tagging someone who can turn intangible. When did DD go twice the speed o flight in that arc ? So are you saying no one else can tag Waverider unless they can adapt to him ?

Waverider can, not DD. Waverider has proven to be hard to hit, adding intangibility just adds to the difficulty. Larfleeze wasn't able to tag the Flash, I doubt he'll be able to harm Waverider.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Waverider can, not DD. Waverider has proven to be hard to hit, adding intangibility just adds to the difficulty. Larfleeze wasn't able to tag the Flash, I doubt he'll be able to harm Waverider. DD hit him though and lots of characters getagged all the time like Gladiator, Sentry, etc. How many examples do you have of him simply avoiding attacks due to his speed ?

Do you feel Waverider is faster than the flash ?

Both can travel multiple times the speed of light.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Both can travel multiple times the speed of light. Who do you feel is portrayed as consistently faster and who usually uses their speed more consistently ? This isn't that hard of a question.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Both can travel multiple times the speed of light.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who do you feel is portrayed as consistently faster and who usually uses their speed more consistently ? This isn't that hard of a question. Wave's dead so it is a null point

Originally posted by Prep-Man
So you feel they are equal in terms of speed. OK. I disagree.Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Wave's dead so it is a null point Then we look back at how he was portrayed.

Agree to disagree.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Agree to disagree. K.

So...Galan?

Doomsday did not hit Waverider. Wave Rider attacked Doomsday and Doomsday evolved and used Waverider's OWN energy against him. Larfreeze will not be doing that in this fight. Wave Rider turns Larfreeze into a baby and ends the fight.