Deathstroke vs Punisher! oh yeah!

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praying-mantis
OK let the brainwracking commence!! RULES!

1) each has a week preptime
2)each has access to all theyre weapons they have used in most comics
3)neither has help

iceman24567
Franks arsenal is better imo he had super villains weapons but Slade is more of a tactical genius and physically superior to boot I give Slade the edge

Badabing
Slade wins.

praying-mantis
Originally posted by iceman24567
Franks arsenal is better imo he had super villains weapons but Slade is more of a tactical genius and physically superior to boot I give Slade the edge

id agree if youd said slade is faster,but marvel has listed castles strength to be around 800lbs and as far as tactics his living is vs druglords,which have access to any weapons/men money can buy
getting out of those battles certainly takes tactics

im unaware of DS actual physical strength i am aware it is enough to
make batman double over smile

Omega Vision
Originally posted by iceman24567
Franks arsenal is better imo he had super villains weapons but Slade is more of a tactical genius and physically superior to boot I give Slade the edge
Eh. Debatable.

Deathstroke has a shit ton of resources at his disposal, he IS a supervillain after all.

Besides in terms of standard equipment what Slade usually lugs around is better than what Punisher usually lugs around.

Anyway Slade, pretty decisively.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Eh. Debatable.

Deathstroke has a shit ton of resources at his disposal, he IS a supervillain after all.

Besides in terms of standard equipment what Slade usually lugs around is better than what Punisher usually lugs around.

Anyway Slade, pretty decisively. Well the OP stated whatever they have used in the past. That means Franks arsenal includes Klaws Klaws, Green Goblins glider plus bombs, Doc Ocks tentacles ect I would say Franks weapons are overall better

inimalist
Punisher is a beast with prep, one of the best examples being the issue where he is able to escape from Sentry after the Osborn assassination attempt.

but slade is just too strong... good fight probably

iceman24567
Originally posted by praying-mantis
id agree if youd said slade is faster,but marvel has listed castles strength to be around 800lbs and as far as tactics his living is vs druglords,which have access to any weapons/men money can buy
getting out of those battles certainly takes tactics

im unaware of DS actual physical strength i am aware it is enough to
make batman double over smile 800? And you believe that?

Lord Feron
Slade but he better be careful.

JakeTheBank
Deathstroke.

Existere
Originally posted by inimalist
Punisher is a beast with prep, one of the best examples being the issue where he is able to escape from Sentry after the Osborn assassination attempt.

but slade is just too strong... good fight probably I would think that Slade at least matches if not surpasses Punisher's beastliness with prep. Given that prep is where he tends to stand out and the level of opposition he usually puts up a fight against if he has prep.

I could be wrong though, I'm no Punisher expert.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Existere
I would think that Slade at least matches if not surpasses Punisher's beastliness with prep. Given that prep is where he tends to stand out and the level of opposition he usually puts up a fight against if he has prep.

I could be wrong though, I'm no Punisher expert.

This seems pretty accurate, imo.

It's not a knock on Frank, not at all, but the opposition that Slade faces with prep seems to outshine that of Frank's. It would be a good fight.

Or Slade just drops Chemo on him. Idk.

chomperx9
DS gets Punished

inimalist
Originally posted by Existere
I would think that Slade at least matches if not surpasses Punisher's beastliness with prep. Given that prep is where he tends to stand out and the level of opposition he usually puts up a fight against if he has prep.

I could be wrong though, I'm no Punisher expert.

I'd assume you are right. I know nothing about slade, save that he beats some of the top DC teams on the reg.

I guess I'm saying punisher will make it close. by slade is "stronger", I meant as a character, not that his strength is what gives him the w.

Tazer
Yo.

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Tazer

TricksterPriest
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
This seems pretty accurate, imo.

It's not a knock on Frank, not at all, but the opposition that Slade faces with prep seems to outshine that of Frank's. It would be a good fight.

Or Slade just drops Chemo on him. Idk. Slade doesn't just have his own resources. He's been on several teams, including the Injustice Society and the dark titans. And I'm reasonably sure he's stolen stuff from both.

Hell, he's one of the only people to have a working version of velocity 9 without the side-effects.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Slade but he better be careful.

srankmissingnin
I'd say Slade is better with prep, but Frank is more resourceful. If you dropped both of these guys in a hardware store with nothing but the cloths on their back, I'd be more worried about what Frank could Macguyver than Slade.

With access to any weapon they've used this is colossal stomp for Frank. He comes in with the Venom symbiot, riding a goblin glider, wearing Satan's Claw one one hand, constrictor's coils on the other, tossing pumpkin bombs.

long pig
Velocity 9. FTW

long pig
haha Punisher isn't in the same class in terms of strength, speed, skill intelligence, planning, money....really he's outmatched in every area. As for strength, feat wise, DS is a 1-3 tonner. He over powered Donna Troy, but i don't think he's that friggn strong.

-Pr-
Originally posted by iceman24567
Well the OP stated whatever they have used in the past. That means Franks arsenal includes Klaws Klaws, Green Goblins glider plus bombs, Doc Ocks tentacles ect I would say Franks weapons are overall better

deathstroke once used a grenade that cost billions of dollars and had kryptonite, magic and several other compounds designed to stun the entire JLA. and it worked.

long pig
Dude, velocity 9! You'd have a lightspeed deathstroke runnin around.

Prep-Man
Slade.

Deadline
Y'know what you could certainly argue that Punsiher is better at prep than DS, as long as were not getting combat feats mixed up with prep.

Has DS pit his wits against somebody like Doom (no I'm not arguing hes smarter than Doom before you throw a hissy fit) and survived? Has he gone up against guys like The Hood and Norman Osbourne? Yea Punisher got killed but Remender stated he would have escaped if The Hood hadn't ressurected his family.

Not to mention that theres on panel proof that Punisher is better at this sort of thing than Cap. Is DS tactically superior to Cap? Cap actually does have a lot of covert guerilla experience as well.

Cleary Punisher will lose to DS in h2h but I think Punisher would win in a gunfight. Punisher is better with a gun than DS and if DS can lose to Deadshot, thats another way Punisher could win. Hes not as accurate as Deadshot be he's still better than DS and is faster and tougher than Deadshot.

Worse case scenerio this could be a stalemate because if he thinks he will lose he'll blow himself up taking DS with him.

Originally posted by praying-mantis
2)each has access to all theyre weapons they have used in most comics


By the way don't think really fancy equipment is allowed. The OP might need to specify exactly what he means.

praying-mantis
Originally posted by Deadline
Y'know what you could certainly argue that Punsiher is better at prep than DS, as long as were not getting combat feats mixed up with prep.

Has DS pit his wits against somebody like Doom (no I'm not arguing hes smarter than Doom before you throw a hissy fit) and survived? Has he gone up against guys like The Hood and Norman Osbourne? Yea Punisher got killed but Remender stated he would have escaped if The Hood hadn't ressurected his family.

Not to mention that theres on panel proof that Punisher is better at this sort of thing than Cap. Is DS tactically superior to Cap? Cap actually does have a lot of covert guerilla experience as well.

Cleary Punisher will lose to DS in h2h but I think Punisher would win in a gunfight. Punisher is better with a gun than DS and if DS can lose to Deadshot, thats another way Punisher could win. Hes not as accurate as Deadshot be he's still better than DS and is faster and tougher than Deadshot.

Worse case scenerio this could be a stalemate because if he thinks he will lose he'll blow himself up taking DS with him.



By the way don't think really fancy equipment is allowed. The OP might need to specify exactly what he means.


OP here folks- 1) i dont know how slade had a grenade that cost millions may we have the comic/issue please?not that i dont believe you but im curious about it

also 2)before i posted this i didnt know punisher had among other things
pym particles-to me that adds a whole new ball game as im sure his arsenal would include armored choppers and tanks in his pockets!

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Deadline
Y'know what you could certainly argue that Punsiher is better at prep than DS, as long as were not getting combat feats mixed up with prep.

Has DS pit his wits against somebody like Doom (no I'm not arguing hes smarter than Doom before you throw a hissy fit) and survived? Has he gone up against guys like The Hood and Norman Osbourne? Yea Punisher got killed but Remender stated he would have escaped if The Hood hadn't ressurected his family.
punisher did however get owned by ulik

iceman24567
Originally posted by -Pr-
deathstroke once used a grenade that cost billions of dollars and had kryptonite, magic and several other compounds designed to stun the entire JLA. and it worked. Punisher had the Bloodstone for a short time too

Deadline
Originally posted by praying-mantis
OP here folks- 1) i dont know how slade had a grenade that cost millions may we have the comic/issue please?not that i dont believe you but im curious about it

also 2)before i posted this i didnt know punisher had among other things
pym particles-to me that adds a whole new ball game as im sure his arsenal would include armored choppers and tanks in his pockets!

Oh so it involves all equipment they've ever had?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
punisher did however get owned by ulik

No he didn't especially when you consider this guy goes toe-to-toe with Thor.





Originally posted by Deadline
Punisher vs Ulik


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Note:Frank was willing to blow himself up in the process with spent plutonuim (yeah he can get his hands on that as well), it may not have killed Ulik but it probably would have really really really ****** him up.

psycho gundam
that was ownage bro

frank is almost useless if his weaponry/attacks can't take down his target(s), it was a valiant effort but he was nonetheless swimming up a waterfall with both arms tied behind his back.

BruceSkywalker
Slade

Uriel005
If they are allowed to prep the arena before hand Frank takes it because he won't even dignify DS with a gunfight. He'll plant mines in a mile radius and detonate them in one sequence while DS is at the start zone as per standard starting distance with Frank standing in the only safe zone.

long pig
Seriously, no love for DS with flash's speed? C'mon ya goobers.

Uriel005
Originally posted by long pig
Seriously, no love for DS with flash's speed? C'mon ya goobers. Problem with hitting flash with bullets is that he moves and perceives at faster than light speeds. Bullets travel at a couple times the speed of sound at best.

long pig
What does that have to do with anything?

Deadline
Originally posted by psycho gundam
that was ownage bro

I kinda see what you mean but that guy fights Thor. Punisher managed to hurt and evade him for a short time. Thats impressive.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

frank is almost useless if his weaponry/attacks can't take down his target(s), it was a valiant effort but he was nonetheless swimming up a waterfall with both arms tied behind his back.

It was a good showing.

psycho gundam
same thing happened against professor hulk:

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2011/incrediblehulk39518.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8726/incrediblehulk39519.jpg

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3502/incrediblehulk39520.jpg

Uriel005
Originally posted by psycho gundam
same thing happened against professor hulk:

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2011/incrediblehulk39518.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8726/incrediblehulk39519.jpg

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3502/incrediblehulk39520.jpg Frank had that feeling of watching a car wreck. You know something horrible is about to happen but you just can't look away.

Deadline
Originally posted by psycho gundam
same thing happened against professor hulk:


No it didn't. Pun actually managed to hurt Ulik and dodge some of Uliks attacks. Pun did absolutely nothing to Prof.

long pig
Has anyone mentioned velocity 9.....oh, yeah... i did. What the hell is wrong with you people? DS+velocity 9=DS with Flash level speed. A dude with a promethium blade running around at light speed is death.

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