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Only using hth skills. Who wins?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33806/1768636-asthor005_cov_col_large.jpg

vs

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/308/80415-76365-mr-majestic_large.jpg

Confused by the wording. Do they have powers? Are they fighting like bricks?

I guess the only powers they can use is their durability/strength, but no powers, no heat vision, speed, just regular dojo style fight.

Thor then.

Majestic. Damn good fight, though.

Majestic

Majestic.

prolly majestic, but it's a slight majority, imo. 6/10

Majestic.

Majestic on account of being that much of a dick.

Originally posted by Digi
Kheran nobility ftw. If we're to believe the talk, Majestic possesses MA knowledge that even Zealot (arguably Wildstorm's most skilled combatant, all other powers stripped away) respects and fears.

Though, granted, I'm unfamiliar with Orion's full history.

Only difference is, I'm content in my knowledge of both characters in this thread.

H2H and No superspeed?
split

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
H2H and No superspeed?
split CIS still on Majestic abuses Thors tendency to monologue and beats him silly while he delivers some schtick on how the son of Odin is going to smite a fool.

Majestros

I'm reasonably sure Majestic is not only a great fighter, but that he fights dirty.

Originally posted by leonidas
prolly majestic, but it's a slight majority, imo. 6/10 Sexiest. Post. Ever. :drool:

Originally posted by Uriel005
CIS still on Majestic abuses Thors tendency to monologue and beats him silly while he delivers some schtick on how the son of Odin is going to smite a fool.

then again Thor will be monologuing and beats Majestros silly while delivering some schtick on how the son of Odin smites a fool...

Majestros.

Thor

Originally posted by long pig
Sexiest. Post. Ever. :drool:

i did it for you.

I'd go with Majestros. HtH is more his thing than Thor's.

^Enough with that shit. Oeming f*cked up with Blood Oath. Just because Thor wields a weapon doesn't automatically make him less formidable in hand to hand when we've seen him brawl so often.

Did I miss some really impressive skill feats from Majestros or is he getting the win, simply because his "cool" for lack of a better term? I think it'd be a stalemate on average but without super speed, Thor would be my pick from what I've seen. Physical strength is a wash, but Thor might be tougher with Majestic being more "invulnerable".

I think the point is clear though Thor is a lot more formidable with his hammer than without it. Thor has always used it as a crutch. I don't see the problem as it's his standard weapon. It's like saying hulk can't use his healing factor in a fight. It's limiting him. Didn't Thor himself also state as much during the ragnarok arc that he leaned on his hammer too much in the past.

Sure, overall, but when his using it as a club, it's basically a substitute fist for the most part. How many times does Thor need to put down his hammer and give a good accounting for himself?

Lee probably showed the biggest difference between a Mjolnir wielding Thor a non Mjolnir wielding Thor but even then, the difference wasn't large; just noticeable. Since then, it hasn't been that pronounced.

Yes, he said he used his leaned on his hammer too often in the past but he also said the hammer was but a tool. Due to what he was doing during the scene, I think he was talking about overall picture though.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Sure, overall, but when his using it as a club, it's basically a substitute fist for the most part. How many times does Thor need to put down his hammer and give a good accounting for himself?

Lee probably showed the biggest difference between a Mjolnir wielding Thor a non Mjolnir wielding Thor but even then, the difference wasn't large; just noticeable. Since then, it hasn't been that pronounced.

Yes, he said he used his leaned on his hammer too often in the past but he also said the hammer was but a tool. Due to what he was doing during the scene, I think he was talking about overall picture though. But comic fan to comic fan you know it and I know it Thor's at his best with his hammer not without.

Take away his weapon and you take away from the house of Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But comic fan to comic fan you know it and I know it Thor's at his best with his hammer not without.

Take away his weapon and you take away from the house of Thor.

Of course his at his best with the hammer. If nothing else, it adds an impressive tool to block attacks, but at some point unless he was using energy amping, the hammer was but a substitute for his fist. Lee had it right; Thor could go toe to toe with everyone from Hercules to Hulk without the hammer, but put place it in his hands without them having a counter, and it ends badly for the opposition.

Now you're exaggerating.

i dont see how thor is a better fighter, tbh. or vice versa.

Majestic

majestic is just the better fighter overall

In his heyday Majestic would have taken this pretty solidly, but it seemed like he was nerfed pretty hard in the last several years. He might have still been faster (though based on how much trouble he had with Nemesis, that seems unlikely), but speed has been negated per the stips of this thread anyway. Majestic is almost certainly more skilled than Thor, but Majestic's strength and durability didn't seem comparable at the end of Wildstorm. Thor should win.

Thor.. Majestic is a chump.