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1. Pure physical force

2. Energy blasts

3. Other (explain)

Thanos and above.

in one punch, blast, etc. or they get as many tries as they want?

Break?

For number 3, I'm thinking of a handful of herald characters who could arguably absorb it. Thor's done it in the past- although it could be argued that with Magneto's far superior energy manipulation feats nowadays, that very few people could accomplish wrestling control of his own shield from him and absorbing it.

Originally posted by SuperMan103
in one punch, blast, etc. or they get as many tries as they want?
Any of the above.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
1. Pure physical force

2. Energy blasts

3. Other (explain)


1. Classic Juggernaut pushing against it
Thor as tried and has not broken IIRC
Morg with Axe (WOL)
Gladiator
Sentry

2. Goku
Thor with Blast
Superman HV
Silver Surfer
Morg with Axe (WOL)

3. Dr. Strange
Loki
Various Spell casters
Vision
Martian Manhunter
Kitty Pride
Photon

1- Hulk, Superman, Thor, Surfer, Gadiator, Rich Rider, etc.

2- Surfer, Thor, Hal Jordan, etc.

3- Bruce Banner, Stark, Doom, Reed Richards, MAYBE Bruce Wayne, MAYBE Luthor, and add a bunch of magic users.

Has Shadowcat ever tried phasing through them?

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir33-StrikingPowerJIM109.jpg

That Magneto couldn't even fly. It's like using that era's Iceman, or Jean Grey, and showing how other characters stomp them.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Has Shadowcat ever tried phasing through them?
I remember him being able to effect her, even while phased if not mistaken.

Yes. Vision has also tried phasing and failed miserably.

Originally posted by batdude123
It was also during the era where Cyclops broke through them.

And he still gave Thor a hard time.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
In all honesty, Magneto may be the best character with his powers. He utilizes his abilities consistently better and to hights beyond what people may consider his "level"



Honestly can't think of a single character who uses there abilities better then him. Maybe Doom, even then I would wager magneto better with he powers (not that he win) yes I agree. Magneto is one of those few comic characters who actually uses his powers as you would expect a smart person to do.

Another would be Emma, she taps into her full potential.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yes I agree. Magneto is one of those few comic characters who actually uses his powers as you would expect a smart person to do.

Another would be Emma, she taps into her full potential.

Honestly some time magneto does shit, I would not even think possible. In fact one of the coolest things he does, is amp his body and strength to crazy levels.





Emma pretty good, but she not magneto.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

Emma pretty good, but she not magneto. well, I was just thinking when she showed iceman how much power he 'could' potentially tap into

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Any of the above. you should limit it to a certain number of hits...or else magneto's shield will eventually break simply from fatigue

Originally posted by Starscream M
well, I was just thinking when she showed iceman how much power he 'could' potentially tap into
That was nothing specially. All she did was read his mind and tell him he had a mental block put in place.

Originally posted by batdude123
It was also during the era where Cyclops broke through them.

Wasn't there a re-telling of that feat in First Class?

I remember seeing a modern day telling of Cyclops breaking through Magneto's forcefield and I'm pretty sure it was their first mission.

Other:
Persuader - his axe

that could have fit into one post

Originally posted by Starscream M
you should limit it to a certain number of hits...or else magneto's shield will eventually break simply from fatigue
a lot of the guys would give out before he did. Imagin him using all his energy to his shields, he could go for a long ass time.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Wasn't there a re-telling of that feat in First Class?

I remember seeing a modern day telling of Cyclops breaking through Magneto's forcefield and I'm pretty sure it was their first mission.
Perhaps, but would the make it any more usable as evidence?


Magneto is significantly more powerful, now then he was then, by a lot.

I'm not entirely sure the Cyclopss incident is even canon anymore; X-Men #1 has been recently been re-told in Mythos - X-men (which I can't overstress how awesome it was) and the events are portrayed differently.

Originally posted by keiththegreat
OK....can you show evidence of Thor NOT being able to break them? http://img198.imageshack.us/i/magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg/

That doesn't count phil, that proves him wrong, so it must be pis.

edit.

Originally posted by Mindset
That doesn't count phil, that proves him wrong, so it must be pis.

You must be confusing me with someone else. When have I ever used PIS on this forum, ever?

Originally posted by keiththegreat
That looks almost as old as the one I showed. What issue is it from? And what were the circumstances. it looks like Magneto is taking on all the Avengers at once. So I guess he's beyond a herald. Originally posted by Mindset
That doesn't count phil, that proves him wrong, so it must be pis. Called it.

We know Magneto isn't above herald, so the implication you are making is that it's PIS.

The re-telling of X-Men #1 with some awesome scenes added:

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page002.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page003.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page004.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page012.jpg

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page013.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page014.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page015.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page016.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
Called it.

We know Magneto isn't above herald, so the implication you are making is that it's PIS.

Actually you're confusing bad writing with PIS. You should go to a forum and debate who is a better rapper between Jay-z and 50 cent, because you obviously are clueless here.

(continued)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page017.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page018.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page019.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page020.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page021.jpghttp://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page022.jpg http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/th_Mythos01page023.jpg

My whole point was only that I wanted to know the circumstances of the fight, as it seems like it was just pulled from a respect thread with no context.

What makes you think context matters here? If it did, I'd have mentioned it.

If you want the whole story, go look for the comic and read it.

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Actually you're confusing bad writing with PIS. You should go to a forum and debate who is a better rapper between Jay-z and 50 cent, because you obviously are clueless here. PIS is inherently bad writing, champ.

Why would I debate about rap artists?

Um, well, a scan has been shown of Thor breaking through Magneto's shields, and one of him not (although from the second scan, we only saw Thor hit it once and then we see Magneto make a boast that can't possibly ever be backed up, as we all know its not true no physical force can break his shields...I hope we all know that anyway).

Originally posted by keiththegreat
That looks almost as old as the one I showed. What issue is it from? And what were the circumstances. it looks like Magneto is taking on all the Avengers at once. So I guess he's beyond a herald.
that issue is at least a decade newer. Re compare the art.




Magneto is a beast.

Originally posted by Mindset
PIS is inherently bad writing, champ.

Why would I debate about rap artists? Becaue of your avatar. He had to say something.

It all makes sense.

Somewhere.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that's pretty messed up

chuckie already has his hoverchair even before he met the shi'ar, and magneto...flew
You think that the messed up part?





Have you seen what his character is like now a days? That is the least of his worries.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
You think that the messed up part?





Have you seen what his character is like now a days? That is the least of his worries. if that's a legit retcon of the original issue (i sincerely hope not cause touching kirby/lee stuff should be punishable by death), it doesn't synch

*the x-men meet the shi'ar for the "first" time*

lilandra: "...wher did you get that technology from, it looks shi'ar?

xavier: "..errr.."

universe implodes

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
honestly, thats not a good way to debate. In fact, it really not up to him to find. You need to give him issue number or title. other wise it just seems shady.



Not saying you are, but just responses to valid question request seems unfair to me. However you may have more experience with him then I do, so perhaps he deserves it I do not know.

Yeah, I'd rather see an issue number than a scan any day.

As far as Magneto is concerned, the further away they are from Lee/Kirby, the better.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
honestly, thats not a good way to debate. In fact, it really not up to him to find. You need to give him issue number or title. other wise it just seems shady. From what I've seen of him, he's a troll, but either way, not all scans need to come with context added to them, when there is none necessary, like in this case.

If he'd have asked for the issue, I'd have given it to him.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
*the x-men meet the shi'ar for the "first" time*

lilandra: "...wher did you get that technology from, it looks shi'ar?

xavier: "..errr..we met before, had sex, then I stole your technology and erased the memory of it ever happening; as I'm about to do for the last 20 seconds of this discussion"

Xavier becomes a better character Fixed.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
1. Classic Juggernaut pushing against it
Thor as tried and has not broken IIRC
Morg with Axe (WOL)
Gladiator
Sentry

2. Goku
Thor with Blast
Superman HV
Silver Surfer
Morg with Axe (WOL)

3. Dr. Strange
Loki
Various Spell casters
Vision
Martian Manhunter
Kitty Pride
Photon electrical fields screw kitty over or has that changed and I am simply unaware. Also Flash blitz mass IMP

Originally posted by psycho gundam
if that's a legit retcon of the original issue (i sincerely hope not cause touching kirby/lee stuff should be punishable by death), it doesn't synch

*the x-men meet the shi'ar for the "first" time*

lilandra: "...wher did you get that technology from, it looks shi'ar?

xavier: "..errr.."

universe implodes
Proff x entire characters been pretty much reconnt. Have you seen what he like recently? or what he done?




What shi'ar technology as you referring to?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
lol



oh if he a troll that different. But taking people word for it, is not always a valid or smart option. Think context should always available if scan is presented and confirmation is asked for.



Thats cool then. I dont mean you need to post scans or anything. In fact I rather issue numbers and titles rather then scans in my cases to verify for myself.

That is because of a few incidents that have occurred on the board. Like this spiderman feat that a few years back was posted in any thread he was in. It showed spiderman moving as a plur in front of this superhuman hero. People use to simply post it as if that ended any arguement with spidy speed advantage was in question. Everyone went a long with it for mad long even years. Then I finally found the issue and bought it, and what do I find out. Not only is the guy not a hero, and he not a superhuman, but he mentally handicap individual. I mean numerous members would post this scan all day every day. So for me, you can never be to carefull.

It was Wolverine, wasn't it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It was Wolverine, wasn't it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It was Wolverine, wasn't it.





do you know what scan I am refferring to?

can you post the scan or link to it?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan



do you know what scan I am refferring to?

I actually don't.

so whats your strenght level have to be at to break free?

A few observations :

1) The Magneto/Thor scan is from the mid 60s no?

2) The Magneto/Thor/She-Hulk scan is from X-men Vs Avengers #1 and it was published in 1987. 20+ years later.

I'd put the level of power needed to break his shields using purely physical/energy powers at Thanos. "Other" can be any competent magic wielder.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I actually don't.
I know were the scan is ,but both threads are far to large to search lol.

1. Pure physical force - Classic Juggernaut (I see that one going down just like it did in a couple of What Ifs). Eventually guys like Thanos, enraged Hulk, Gladiator etc would probably just bust through. Depends how many hits you allow.


2. Energy blasts - probably a lot of herald/cosmic types could do it. Again, it would take some longer than others.


3. Other (explain)
Thor's hammer. I don't count it as pure physical force because of the enchantments. We've seen Thor absorb Mag's shields away through magic, Thor breaking down Mag's shields by bludgeoning away, but also Mags deflecting a hit from the hammer. But it's the same as Quasar's shields - we've seen them deflect the hammer several times, but when Thor was serious he has broken them on occasion. There is a huge difference between a casual hammer blow and when he really cuts loose - add to that the magnetism absorption and the hammer will get through.

Quasar, and probably a lot of the heralds, by absorbing the energy away. Maybe Vulcan the same way.

Blackbolt unleashing his voice.

Someone mentioned Persuader's axe. Add to that maybe Ebony Blade.

Other than that, probably a lot of magical attacks, magical artifacts. Certain magical entities can just pass through, though not strictly break the shields.

Gravity attacks - again, not necessarily breaking the shields but they would pass right through an e/m based shield anyway.

Captain Marvel (Monica) showed the ability to transform into neutrinos at one point, don't know how. That would go straight through e/m shields though not break them.

Leech for other.

Bump. Alberto, give your precious advise here.

Stop.

Hax.

Haxie hax of hax.

Anything you can't explain and can't let another character do it, its hax.

"Jimmy Olsen has such a hax camera, nobody can match his photos".

Originally posted by Omega Vision
1. Pure physical force

2. Energy blasts

3. Other (explain) I always dislike 'weakest' threads because it's always about loopholes.

Since the OP is long gone...I'll say ranges, and not specifically the lowest.

1.

Assuming one strike, somebody in the Thanos/Superman range.

Assuming multiple strikes , Thor/Wonder Woman range.

2.

Assuming one strike, Hal Jordan or Orion.

Assuming multiple strikes, Surfer or Firestorm.

3.

See: Monica.

What about Klaw for 3?

Magneto's shields have also protected him from being affected by TK, both from Phoenix and exodus, so stiff like sound waves, gravity, neutrinos won't bypass it IMO

That means that inside his bubble, Magneto is deaf and blind etc.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That means that inside his bubble, Magneto is deaf and blind etc.

Sue becomes 100% invisible, including her optic nerves... and she still sees everything, lol. Comics.

Anyway, Magnus' shields are tough as f*ck, but they can and have been breached.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Sue becomes 100% invisible, including her optic nerves... and she still sees everything, lol. Comics.

Anyway, my anus shields are tough as f*ck, but they can and have been breached.


Fixed.

Good one.

"Pure physical force" would have to be something far beyond the combined strength of Thor and She-Hulk:

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11128/111280708/5255285-1934719356-11270.jpg

Thor was weakened due to his brittle bones there.