Bart Allen vs Thor

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Prep-Man
Bart as avatar of the speed force.

batdude123
Thor wins due to having more firepower that he won't be able to land.

Mindset
Bart via Bart.

batdude123
Originally posted by Mindset
Bart via Bart.

Good point.

I'd like to change my vote.

Starscream M
thor can win via omnidirectional lightning. does bart have IMP as well?

Mindset
Lightning that will never hit Bart?

Yes he has the imp, what kind of question is that?

Harbinger
Originally posted by Starscream M
thor can win via omnidirectional lightning. does bart have IMP as well?
1. Zero chance he does this before Bart makes his move.

2. Zero chance he connects, even if he gets it off.

MrMind
bart wins

Starscream M
Originally posted by Mindset
Lightning that will never hit Bart?

Yes he has the imp, what kind of question is that? why would it never hit? it covers an entire area, and it's light speed...there's a high probability it would hit bart

now, the question is can thor weather an onslaught from bart before he realizes he needs an area effect attack

Mindset
Originally posted by Starscream M
why would it never hit? it covers an entire area, and it's light speed...there's a high probability it would hit bart

now, the question is can thor weather an onslaught from bart before he realizes he needs an area effect attack Lightning isn't lightspeed.

Bart is much faster than light.

Dum Dum Dugan
Also what to stop Bat from taking Thors speed?

Starscream M
what speed? no expression

Mindset
Kinetic energy steal.

And I don't remember Bart really doing that trick; I see him vibrating through attacks, though.

Prep-Man
lol thors hammer to face?

Starscream M
Originally posted by Mindset
Kinetic energy steal.
I was mocking thor's slowness. stick out tongue

Black bolt z
Bart stomps.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Mindset
Kinetic energy steal.

And I don't remember Bart really doing that trick; I see him vibrating through attacks, though.
techincally he is the speed force, so he should be the most powerful. Though I agree I dont recall him ever doing it. I find it funny that the guy who the speed force, knows less about it abilities then some one who technically "barrows" it.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Starscream M
I was mocking thor's slowness. stick out tongue
Thor could not even touch bart. People were not even able to proof he had superior combat speed to people like spiderman, let a lone bart.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Thor could not even touch bart. People were not even able to proof he had superior combat speed to people like spiderman, let a lone bart. thor has used his smarts against speedsters though

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Starscream M
thor has used his smarts against speedsters though
how, and what speedsters?

Mindset
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
techincally he is the speed force, so he should be the most powerful. Though I agree I dont recall him ever doing it. I find it funny that the guy who the speed force, knows less about it abilities then some one who technically "barrows" it. I doubt that he doesn't know how to use it, I just don't think he will.

batdude123
Originally posted by Starscream M
thor has used his smarts against speedsters though

None on the level of Bart.

And seriously... I don't know if it give you a hard-on or what, but stop being such a God damn contrarian.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
how, and what speedsters? he caused a tremor to throw off quicksilver iirc

Starscream M
Originally posted by batdude123
None on the level of Bart.

And seriously... I don't know if it give you a hard-on or what, but stop being such a God damn contrarian. uh...I just pointed that out cuz dum dum said thor had trouble against spiderman

i never said, nor do i think that thor can come close to reacting to bart's speed.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Mindset
I doubt that he doesn't know how to use it, I just don't think he will.
true, but honestly, wally better. Feat wise he would win for sure, and think it so stupid that they reconnt bart into being the "most powerful flash", he has personality of a twig.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Starscream M
he caused a tremor to throw off quicksilver iirc
When?


Because the last time they faced off, he used his lightning to get quick silver which was BS, quicker silver moves lot faster then lightning currently. It was boarderline if not straight up pis.

Mindset
Wally is more experienced.

He's also more popular.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Starscream M
uh...I just pointed that out cuz dum dum said thor had trouble against spiderman

i never said, nor do i think that thor can come close to reacting to bart's speed.
I never said he have trouble with spidy. I said there not evidence that has been presented that displays Thor combat speed beyond Spidermans.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
When?

don;t know, sorry. Just remember seeing a scan of it pretty recently.

Uriel005
Originally posted by Starscream M
why would it never hit? it covers an entire area, and it's light speed...there's a high probability it would hit bart

now, the question is can thor weather an onslaught from bart before he realizes he needs an area effect attack bart steps around it in time/jumps into speedforce dimension where SBP got stranded to dodge it and returns as soon as the blast clears/something probably involving vibrating at extremely high frequencies to get out of he way.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Mindset
Wally is more experienced.

He's also more popular.
becuase he does not have the personality of a twig.





true, but he always been better. He should stay better as well. He has that bush the bounderies type of attitude which is why he much better with his powers. Barry has all the potential, but he never pushing himself to the next level unless he has to.

batdude123
Originally posted by Starscream M
uh...I just pointed that out cuz dum dum said thor had trouble against spiderman

i never said, nor do i think that thor can come close to reacting to bart's speed.

...

Ok then. uhuh

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Starscream M
don;t know, sorry. Just remember seeing a scan of it pretty recently.
It was lightning and it was PIS.

Mindset
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
becuase he does not have the personality of a twig.





true, but he always been better. He should stay better as well. He has that bush the bounderies type of attitude which is why he much better with his powers. Barry has all the potential, but he never pushing himself to the next level unless he has to. I'm confused who you're talking about, Barry or Bart?

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Mindset
I'm confused who you're talking about, Barry or Bart?
im an idiot, i got the names screwed up, ignore what I been saying.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor wins on average.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
When?

Because the last time they faced off, he used his lightning to get quick silver which was BS, quicker silver moves lot faster then lightning currently. It was boarderline if not straight up pis.

Lol, that's not what happened. Starscream is right -shocker- that Thor caught him with a ground and pound tactic.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I never said he have trouble with spidy. I said there not evidence that has been presented that displays Thor combat speed beyond Spidermans.

Straight up bullshit unless you're talking about this thread specifically.

Mindset
Bart vibrates through Thor and blows him up.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus



Lol, that's not what happened. Starscream is right -shocker- that Thor caught him with a ground and pound tactic.



Straight up bullshit unless you're talking about this thread specifically.
I thought he hit him with lightning..........did they fight again or something?





No, I being honest, I dont think Thor combat speed is above spidermans in the least.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I thought he hit him with lightning..........did they fight again or something?

No, I being honest, I dont think Thor combat speed is above spidermans in the least.

No, that's not what happened at all:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver3.jpg

Thor has at least like 5 feats far above anything I've ever seen Spider-Man do. At least like 2 more if you use Bill which is something I don't think you'll have a problem with. wink

Digi, what's his highest speed feat? Just so we have equal representation.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, that's not what happened at all:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver3.jpg

Thor has at least like 5 feats far above anything I've ever seen Spider-Man do. At least like 2 more if you use Bill which I don't think you'll have a problem with. wink

Digi, what's his highest speed feat?
My bad I miss remember it. I knew there was lightning bolts, I just wrong about them hitting him. Bruce was right, how surprising.



I don't think thor has 5 combat speed feats above spiderman at all, I also dont think he has as many as spiderman.

yea I dont care, Bill fine.

Don Corleone
IMO, Thor catching Marvel Hermes from behind is more impressive than the Quicksilver feat.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
My bad I miss remember it. I knew there was lightning bolts, I just wrong about them hitting him. Bruce was right, how surprising.

I don't think thor has 5 combat speed feats above spiderman at all, I also dont think he has as many as spiderman.

yea I dont care, Bill fine.

I know, like I said, a shocker. Mark it on your Calendar.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsMicroSecond.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsRachelPhoenix2.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer13.jpg

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight4.jpg

Bill's recent fight with Surfer while moving at trans light speed. IIRC, his also able to track an object moving at trans light speed or some such.

Has Spider-Man ever caught a bullet or anything of the sort? Just curious.

Don Corleone
Here Thor is able to catch Hermes.

1. http://img6.imageshack.us/i/hermes1g.jpg/

2. http://img192.imageshack.us/i/hermes2v.jpg/

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I know, like I said, a shocker. Mark it on your Calendar.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsMicroSecond.jpg

what year is that comic from?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsRachelPhoenix2.jpg


This is clearly hyperbole

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
url]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer13.jpg



He tanked a shot hit surfer, what is this suppose



Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
url]url]http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/FasterThanLight4.jpg
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That his hammer movement speed, which I never argued. I talking combat speed.



Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Has Spider-Man ever caught a bullet or anything of the sort? Just curious.
Yes he has.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Don Corleone
Here Thor is able to catch Hermes.

1. http://img6.imageshack.us/i/hermes1g.jpg/

2. http://img192.imageshack.us/i/hermes2v.jpg/
This is his hammer movement speed. I talking Thor combat speed. They are not the same thing.

Don Corleone
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


Has Spider-Man ever caught a bullet or anything of the sort? Just curious.

Notice how he saw the bullet traveling.

1. http://img21.imageshack.us/i/spidey1.jpg/

2. http://img715.imageshack.us/i/spidey2z.jpg/

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Don Corleone
Notice how he saw the bullet traveling.

1. http://img21.imageshack.us/i/spidey1.jpg/

2. http://img715.imageshack.us/i/spidey2z.jpg/
yup, IF also done it, so has taskmaster, DP and Wolverine did as well, though becuase it a cross over people ignore it.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
what year is that comic from?

Why does it matter?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
This is clearly hyperbole

It's happening on panel.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He tanked a shot hit surfer, what is this suppose

He turned around and grabbed Surfer by the throat before he could do anything despite it being his goal to utilize hit/run tactics. Izie admitted it was one of Thor's "beyond" feats so I figured why not.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
That his hammer movement speed, which I never argued. I talking combat speed.

The entire sequence happens while they're moving at multiple times the speed of light. He isn't just flying with it, his actively operating at those speeds.

This one is also decent:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesShockwave.jpg

Does anyone know if Adam Warlock has any light speed level capabilities? Curious.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
This is his hammer movement speed. I talking Thor combat speed. They are not the same thing.

Thor had to grab Hermes.

Clearly he had to be able to operate at those speeds. He was also able to see/track him:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CatchesHermes.jpg

Hermes is pretty fast by the way:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CatchesHermes2.jpg

long pig
Originally posted by batdude123
Thor wins due to having more firepower that he won't be able to land. That. Was. Perfect. I'm stealing that quote for whenever a marvel herald level fights a d.c high tier. Looking at you Bill and Thanos.

carver9
You all are stretching with Thor speed feats imo. He isn't on Glads or Superman level imo and I honestly believe that Wolvy and Spiderman is faster as well. Thor is still a beast though.

long pig
Didn't Thor get blitzed to near death by The Mongoose? The same mongoose that couldn't beat Wolverine because wolvie was too fast. I think it was Thor....hmm. Maybe Thunderstrike. I'll check.

Dum Dum Dugan
I answer back in a few.

carver9
Originally posted by long pig
Didn't Thor get blitzed to near death by The Mongoose? The same mongoose that couldn't beat Wolverine because wolvie was too fast. I think it was Thor....hmm. Maybe Thunderstrike. I'll check.

Possibly

But Thor sure as hell doesn't have feats like this...

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1830/strategyte6.jpg

long pig
Originally posted by carver9
You all are stretching with Thor speed feats imo. He isn't on Glads or Superman level imo and I honestly believe that Wolvy and Spiderman is faster as well. Thor is still a beast though. I agree. He's no faster than Cap A or Deathstroke. He may even be slower. God like speed is a joke. It's undefined. All the asgard goes have god like speed. The fat drunk guy has it. It's a meaningless title. Hell, just being a god seems to mean you automatically have it....just as a human has human like speed.

long pig
Originally posted by carver9
Possibly

But Thor sure as hell doesn't have feats like this...

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1830/strategyte6.jpg I can't see it. What's it showing? A wolvie speed feat?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
You all are stretching with Thor speed feats imo. He isn't on Glads or Superman level imo and I honestly believe that Wolvy and Spiderman is faster as well. Thor is still a beast though.

Stretching? It's all in the scans.

Who said his on Clark's level?

SasuOna
Originally posted by long pig
I can't see it. What's it showing? A wolvie speed feat?

Wolverine hitting some speedster due to him knowing where he was going to be.

carver9
Originally posted by SasuOna
Wolverine hitting some speedster due to him knowing where he was going to be.

Wolverine kept pace with him while he was running at super speed. The person was speed demon... someone that has been stated as lightning fast.

This is also impressive as well...

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6002/samsonrip2od2.jpg

Mindset
He didn't keep pace, the scan pretty much shows that with him continually missing.

carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
He didn't keep pace, the scan pretty much shows that with him continually missing.

I agree BUT he basically got in front of speed while he was running and hit him with an elbow. He blitzed a moving Speed Demon.

Mindset
He didn't blitz SD, he couldn't, that's why he had to predict where SD would be.

The only way the scan makes sense with the dialogue is if SD changed direction.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why does it matter?


whats the issue number and title please



Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's happening on panel.


http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3145/centurians2tv3.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He turned around and grabbed Surfer by the throat before he could do anything despite it being his goal to utilize hit/run tactics. Izie admitted it was one of Thor's "beyond" feats so I figured why not.


Thats the same feat as this and it mainly durability. There no reason to assume silver surfer was going even remotely full speed.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6085/genis1d2mx.jpg




Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The entire sequence happens while they're moving at multiple times the speed of light. He isn't just flying with it, his actively operating at those speeds.

No he flying using the hammer. That not his combat speed at all, it the hammer.


Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This one is also decent:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesShockwave.jpg


1. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6633/twosecondstt9.jpg
2. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4643/twoseconds3cd9.jpg
3. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5056/twoseconds2sy3.jpg


Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor had to grab Hermes.

Clearly he had to be able to operate at those speeds. He was also able to see/track him:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CatchesHermes.jpg



http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1830/strategyte6.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
whats the issue number and title please





http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3145/centurians2tv3.jpg



Thats the same feat as this and it mainly durability. There no reason to assume silver surfer was going even remotely full speed.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6085/genis1d2mx.jpg





No he flying using the hammer. That not his speed at all, it the hammer.




1. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6633/twosecondstt9.jpg
2. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4643/twoseconds3cd9.jpg
3. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5056/twoseconds2sy3.jpg




http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1830/strategyte6.jpg

Naah, I can do better than that Dum Dum...

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1990/energydodge2.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
He didn't blitz SD, he couldn't, that's why he had to predict where SD would be.

The only way the scan makes sense with the dialogue is if SD changed direction.

How did Wolvy end up getting in front of a running off speed demon? If that was flash running, would Wolverine be able to get in front of him like that and if nor, please tell me why.

Mindset
How much faster was bone claw Wolverine than normal, or was there a difference?

Mindset
Originally posted by carver9
How did Wolvy end up getting in front of a running off speed demon? If that was flash running, would Wolverine be able to get in front of him like that and if nor, please tell me why. He got in front of him because SD changed direction, otherwise the scan doesn't make any sense.

Wolverine isn't close to SD in speed (travel speed). If SD demon was going flat out in a straight line Wolverine couldn't catch up, as him missing showed, nor would he need to predict the movement of someone running in a straight line.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Mindset
How much faster was bone claw Wolverine than normal, or was there a difference?
There was no difference. It been recently said that he gotten stronger and faster over the years, so perhaps that is the reason.

carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
He got in front of him because SD changed direction, otherwise the scan doesn't make any sense.

Wolverine isn't close to SD in speed (travel speed). If SD demon was going flat out in a straight line Wolverine couldn't catch up, as him missing showed, nor would he need to predict the movement of someone running in a straight line.

I didn't see him changing directions and even if he did... he is still a speedster. You didn't answer my question about Flash.

Mindset
Originally posted by carver9
I didn't see him changing directions and even if he did... he is still a speedster. You didn't answer my question about Flash. Tell me, how does the scan make sense if he didn't change direction? What was there to predict? How was Wolverine able to surpass the speed of a SD running in a straight line?

No, he wouldn't be able to get in front of Flash.

And if you really need me to explain why I don't see this conversation progressing in any positive direction.

carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
Tell me, how does the scan make sense if he didn't change direction? What was there to predict? How was Wolverine able to surpass the speed of a SD running in a straight line?

No, he wouldn't be able to get in front of Flash.

And if you really need me to explain why I don't see this conversation progressing in any positive direction.

Looking at the scan... it was a straight line and Wolverine beat him to the punch.

Wolverine surpassed speed demon by utilizing his own speed. Wolverine isn't slow by any means... hell, Wolverine have scans of him running QuickSilver like.

Why wouldn't he be able to jump in front of Flash (I agree with you by the way)?

I know your stance but you are basically ignoring the scan.

Mindset
Originally posted by carver9
Looking at the scan... it was a straight line and Wolverine beat him to the punch.

Wolverine surpassed speed demon by utilizing his own speed. Wolverine isn't slow by any means... hell, Wolverine have scans of him running QuickSilver like.

Why wouldn't he be able to jump in front of Flash (I agree with you by the way)?

I know your stance but you are basically ignoring the scan. I have to interpret the scan in a way in order not to dismiss it entirely due to its stupidity.

Do you think Wolverine can surpass SD in a foot race, that's what he would have had to do?

Do you think he would need to predict the movement of an opponent who's moving in a straight line?

Do you think Wolverine can run faster than Flash?

If any of these questions are yes, we are done here.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
whats the issue number and title please

Thor #144.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3145/centurians2tv3.jpg

Oh, I get it. You think I'm posting that because it had the worst "instantly" in it. Such vague terms are meaningless unless a figure or something a lot more concrete is attached to it. I posted that because Thor is able to raise his arms, and redirect a telepathic bolt. As far as I've seen, psychic attacks (Telepathy) are consistently pretty high end in terms of speed.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Thats the same feat as this and it mainly durability. There no reason to assume silver surfer was going even remotely full speed.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6085/genis1d2mx.jpg

erm

What?

Do you not understand that Surfer blasted Thor from behind, and Thor had the capabilities to turn around, then grab him by his neck?

At this point, Surfer's goal was to use hit/run tactics to take down Thor:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer6.jpg

He wanted to wear him down because fighting him straight up was suicide at this point. That's why the fight was compromised of Surfer flying out of arms reach and blasting Thor. At one point, I believe he even flew away.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No he flying using the hammer. That not his speed at all, it the hammer.

I get it. His using his hammer to fly. Why you think repeating that forms an argument is beyond me.

Do you not understand that the entire sequence happens while Skuttlebutt's flying at speeds multiple times faster than light?

Thor isn't inside a ship in hyperspace.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
1. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6633/twosecondstt9.jpg
2. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4643/twoseconds3cd9.jpg
3. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5056/twoseconds2sy3.jpg

Three attacks in about two seconds. Logan's faster than I thought.

I doubt as impressive as spotting a boy about to be run over across the city, diving out of the sky, striking the ground, and creating a shockwave to divert the truck in the span of one and one fifth of a second however.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1830/strategyte6.jpg

Neat feat.

It's not as impressive as catching or tracking Hermes. It's more of a prediction and reaction feat like this I wager:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsZefra.jpg

Thor still wins out bud.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor #144.



Oh, I get it. You think I'm posting that because it had the worst "instantly" in it. Such vague terms are meaningless unless a figure or something a lot more concrete is attached to it. I posted that because Thor is able to raise his arms, and redirect a telepathic bolt. As far as I've seen, psychic attacks (Telepathy) are consistently pretty high end in terms of speed.



erm

What?

Do you not understand that Surfer blasted Thor from behind, and Thor had the capabilities to turn around, then grab him by his neck?

At this point, Surfer's goal was to use hit/run tactics to take down Thor:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer6.jpg

He wanted to wear him down because fighting him straight up was suicide at this point. That's why the fight was compromised of Surfer flying out of arms reach and blasting Thor. At one point, I believe he even flew away.



I get it. His using his hammer to fly. Why you think repeating that forms an argument is beyond me.

Do you not understand that the entire sequence happens while Skuttlebutt's flying at speeds multiple times faster than light?

Thor isn't inside a ship in hyperspace.



Three attacks in about two seconds. Logan's faster than I thought.

I doubt as impressive as spotting a boy about to be run over across the city, diving out of the sky, striking the ground, and creating a shockwave to divert the truck in the span of one and one fifth of a second however.



Neat feat.

It's not as impressive as catching or tracking Hermes. It's more of a prediction and reaction feat like this I wager:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsZefra.jpg

Thor still wins out bud.

So Thor would have to put out his cape to catch Wolvy also huh?

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1990/energydodge2.jpg


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7770/cyklopsdodge.jpg

Sr J-Bieb
...

Why is Wolverine vs Thor in combat speed being discussed?

Mindset
Because DDM and Rage posted in this thread.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
So Thor would have to put out his cape to catch Wolvy also huh?

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1990/energydodge2.jpg


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7770/cyklopsdodge.jpg

I'm guessing he put out the cape to prevent injury.

I didn't read the issue where the first scan came from. Is there something else happening or am I supposed to be impressed purely because Wolverine is moving as a blur? If that really is the case, then here you go:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/SuperSpeed.jpg

I've read that one. Decent I guess but I'm as impressed by that as I am with Thor blocking energy blasts or what have you.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm guessing he put out the cape to prevent injury.

I didn't read the issue where the first scan came from. Is there something else happening or am I supposed to be impressed purely because Wolverine is moving as a blur? If that really is the case, then here you go:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/SuperSpeed.jpg

I've read that one. Decent I guess but I'm as impressed by that as I am with Thor blocking energy blasts or what have you.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2959/wolverine40pe3.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7945/wolverine41gz4.jpg

Edit

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2959/wolverine40pe3.jpg

I get it, you're impressed by blurry lines. Thor has those too:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/SuperSpeed2.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SuperSpeed.jpg

In the end, they don't settle anything.

carver9
I edited my post... please look at the rest.

carver9
You can't show me things like this Rage. Wolverine completely rips Samson entire uniform off of him in one panel with pure super speed/hand movement.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6002/samsonrip2od2.jpg

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by carver9
You can't show me things like this Rage. Because Thor doesn't undress men?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
I edited my post... please look at the rest. Originally posted by carver9
You can't show me things like this Rage. Wolverine completely rips Samson entire uniform off of him in one panel with pure super speed/hand movement.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6002/samsonrip2od2.jpg

You want blurry hand movement? I posted blurry hand movement.

Are we now going to pretend shit doesn't count unless it involves undressing someone?

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You want blurry hand movement? I posted blurry hand movement.

Are we now going to pretend shit doesn't count unless it involves undressing someone?

Lol... it doesn't have to be under dressing but its a sign of combat speed. Wolverine completely rips the guy uniform off in a panel into small pieces. That's fast hand movement... fast reflexes. Then Wolverine completely rips a guy to shreds yet again in some seconds. The guy along with Samson didn't even perceive any of this... hell, the guy in the first scan didn't even think Wolverine touched him.

carver9
This is another Quick Silver moment.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8499/xmenv2133p03gm1.jpg

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6867/bulletsidestepkq1.jpg

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh, I get it. You think I'm posting that because it had the worst "instantly" in it. Such vague terms are meaningless unless a figure or something a lot more concrete is attached to it. I posted that because Thor is able to raise his arms, and redirect a telepathic bolt. As far as I've seen, psychic attacks (Telepathy) are consistently pretty high end in terms of speed.


Psychic bolts me at best, the speed of thought.



http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7628/captang29md1.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3954/captang30cy4.jpg


Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

erm

What?

Do you not understand that Surfer blasted Thor from behind, and Thor had the capabilities to turn around, then grab him by his neck?


Yes and? He tanked a shot and turned around and grabbed silver surfer. That does not make it an uber speed feat. He did not appear to be coming even remotely full speed. Hulk feat was extremely comparable to the feat you posted and he nothing in the combat speed department. The only difference between my hulk feat and your was, that instead of being blasted , he got slammed into, However what happen? he grabbed the guy by the throat just like Thor did. Also your feat was like mine, more durability then speed.


http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9681/feat1fight1ze9.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4758/feat1fight2tp0.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7474/feat1fight3sv5.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/96/feat1fight4gt7.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3899/feat1fight5zw6.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
this point, Surfer's goal was to use hit/run tactics to take down Thor:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer6.jpg


He wanted to wear him down because fighting him straight up was suicide at this point. That's why the fight was compromised of Surfer flying out of arms reach and blasting Thor. At one point, I believe he even flew away.





What is the issue number and title. I want to read this arc. those two scans dont show the context. I have a feeling something up with Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I get it. His using his hammer to fly. Why you think repeating that forms an argument is beyond me.


I not, I trying to get you to stop posting scans of thor clearly using his hammer. Were debating Thor combat speed to spiderma/wolverine ect. Thor using his hammer, is not his speed. He does not even posses a fraction of such speed.


Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Do you not understand that the entire sequence happens while Skuttlebutt's flying at speeds multiple times faster than light?

Thor isn't inside a ship in hyperspace.

Yea I know and your point? I don't know why you insist on posting feats of the hammer speed, it beyond me. I not arguing how fast the hammer can move, I argueing how fast Thor can move in combat with out the assistance of his hammer.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/139/feat41fight5tr3.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
attacks in about two seconds. Logan's faster than I thought.

I doubt as impressive as spotting a boy about to be run over across the city, diving out of the sky, striking the ground, and creating a shockwave to divert the truck in the span of one and one fifth of a second however.



Again it was his hammer. He accomplished this through the speed of his hammer and his strength, It had zero to do with Thor actual combat speed. Look at my feat, all wolverine, look at your? all hammer. I not argueing that Thor can fly faster with his hammer then wolverine or spiderman can move. I an argueing that Spiderman and Wolverine are faster then Thor himself in combat speed.



http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3539/reflexesmk5.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6773/reflexes4ln9.jpg



Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Neat feat.

It's not as impressive as catching or tracking Hermes. It's more of a prediction and reaction feat like this I wager:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsZefra.jpg

Thor still wins out bud.
The feat you posted last time, was thor hitting a tree.........

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/948/speedballfj1mw3.jpg

mr billion
bart allen stomps and makes thor look like the snail he really is, even in MVC3 thor is slow as f^ck

Rage.Of.Olympus

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... it doesn't have to be under dressing but its a sign of combat speed. Wolverine completely rips the guy uniform off in a panel into small pieces. That's fast hand movement... fast reflexes. Then Wolverine completely rips a guy to shreds yet again in some seconds. The guy along with Samson didn't even perceive any of this... hell, the guy in the first scan didn't even think Wolverine touched him.

Like I said, if you want Thor doing something blurry in a single panel, I already posted an example:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SuperSpeed.jpg

Dum Dum Dugan
before I answer this long as post, what was the point of showing wolverine against wendigo?

Uriel005
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like I said, if you want Thor doing something blurry in a single panel, I already posted an example:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SuperSpeed.jpg umm it specificially states almost faster than the eye can follow. It's actually pretty easy to trick a human eye in terms of speed. Hell I can do it waving a pencil. It's still pretty snail paced to speedsters.

long pig
Holy hell. So i went and read the Mongoose story, and not only he beat Thor near death, he beat Thundstrike AND spiderman to near death, too...all at the same time! Mongoose was so much faster than Spiderman that his spidy sense was too slow to make a difference. He blitzed friggin Spidey. the only reason he didn't kill them all was because Herc' intervened. Hell, his weapones were crazy. He k.o'd Thor with one blast. I like this guy.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
before I answer this long as post, what was the point of showing wolverine against wendigo?

What was the point of the Masterson and Spider-Man scans?

Originally posted by long pig
Holy hell. So i went and read the Mongoose story, and not only he beat Thor near death, he beat Thundstrike AND spiderman to near death, too...all at the same time! Mongoose was so much faster than Spiderman that his spidy sense was too slow to make a difference. He blitzed friggin Spidey. the only reason he didn't kill them all was because Herc' intervened. Hell, his weapones were crazy. He k.o'd Thor with one blast. I like this guy.

What? He never beat Thor to near death. But Thor had to fight to say conscious. It should also be noted that Mongoose blasted Thor out of the air with his airship, and used his gas to daze/disorient/weaken Thor.

What? No, he didn't knock Thor out in one hit. Even after the beating Thor withstood, he blasted Thor with the -Evolutionary's(?)- tech like twice and he was still standing.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What was the point of the Masterson and Spider-Man scans?
.




To show spiderman display superior speed. you make me chuckle. You do realise that wendigo is a sourcer who had doctor strange wetting his pants. Also I got couple problems with some of your "evidence" becuase you seem to not be completely forth coming with what you pass off as normal ever day thor.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
To show spiderman display superior speed. you make me chuckle. You do realise that wendigo is a sourcer who had doctor strange wetting his pants.

Then that's what I did. Notice how Wolverine's speed was completely ineffective against Mauvais? Okay, and? I didn't read that battle but I also don't remember him going Abra Kadbra when he beat Wolverine into a coma.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Also I got couple problems with some of your "evidence" becuase you seem to not be completely forth coming with what you pass off as normal ever day thor.

http://www.wikinoticia.com/images/alt1040/cdn.alt1040.com.files.2010.12.dude-wtf.jpg

I posted a scene from Blood and Thunder before he got the Power Gem. That is me not being completely forthcoming? Lol. Almost everyone and their mother knows where that fight is from.

Ho ho ho, what a strawman.

Would you care to point out were that limitation was placed on this discussion?

Thor was insane, not augmented by some outside force. The feats are valid.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

http://www.wikinoticia.com/images/alt1040/cdn.alt1040.com.files.2010.12.dude-wtf.jpg

I posted a scene from Blood and Thunder before he got the Power Gem. That is me not being completely forthcoming? Lol. Almost everyone and their mother knows where that fight is from.

Ho ho ho, what a strawman.

Would you care to point out were that limitation was placed on this discussion?

Thor was insane, not augmented by some outside force. The feats are valid.
He was warrior madness which amps him. That a huge difference, you straight up said nothing, good as lied. Yea I mean whats wrong with not explaining that the feats your presenting are thor in an alter state of being which in turn amps his abilities significantly. Yea that not a big deal what debating combat speed or anything.


the entire two issues is completely invalid when pertaining to every day thor.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He was warrior madness which amps him. That a huge difference, you straight up said nothing, good as lied. Yea I mean whats wrong with not explaining that the feats your presenting are thor in an alter state of being which in turn amps his abilities significantly. Yea that not a big deal what debating combat speed or anything.

the entire two issues is completely invalid when pertaining to every day thor.

Hahaha, this is pretty cute. Thor was not in Warrior Madness during Blood and Thunder.

I've never left out vital information -at least purposefully- or misled anyone regarding a feat. Frankly, if I'm not lazy or have access to them, I'd usually post the scan. Barring that, the issue number. Anyone who tries to lie about comics needs to get their priorities in order.

Enough with the strawman. Stop trying to pretend like I was posting feats that applied only to the everyday Thor that operates on Earth. I never applied that limitation. Why would I? We're posting their higher end feats.

Ridiculous.

Anyways, later.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Then that's what I did. Notice how Wolverine's speed was completely ineffective against Mauvais? Okay, and? I didn't read that battle but I also don't remember him going Abra Kadbra when he beat Wolverine into a coma.


hahahaha.

Honestly you could not have picked a worse example. For starters, what I posted was relevent. Spidy and thor are both being discussed in terms of speed, Spidy was stated by Thor as having superior speed. It quite relevant, despite your distaste for it.

However how on earth is Mavius relevent? You do realise he has the sourcer supreme almost pissing him pants, That was before he became full powered, That guy wolverine "speed" is not helping him with, is one of the most powerful beings in marvel. The enitre alpha flight was there as well, You might want to actually read the comic. He was beating the shit out of them. He also had an army of wendigo with him (and not the pussy once from recent years) and was blacking magic out of his hands and was signicantly amp. By far the most powerful and fastest wendigo there has ever been one one of the top sources ever.

Juntai
Bart tooled Zoom in a couple of panels. Debating Thor's speed isn't going to do much, because at the end of the day, he's still at a rather massive disadvantage in the department of everything relative to combat speed/travel speed next to Bart.

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahaha, this is pretty cute. Thor was not in Warrior Madness during Blood and Thunder.

I've never left out vital information -at least purposefully- or misled anyone regarding a feat. Frankly, if I'm not lazy or have access to them, I'd usually post the scan. Barring that, the issue number. Anyone who tries to lie about comics needs to get their priorities in order.

Enough with the strawman. Stop trying to pretend like I was posting feats that applied only to the everyday Thor that operates on Earth. I never applied that limitation. Why would I? We're posting their higher end feats.

Ridiculous.

Anyways, later.
He was clearly amp. Are you gunna try and pretend he wasent?


You not posting scans is not the problem. The problem is you posting two scans completely out of context failing to mention that he was amp. Your reason is not a good excuse, becuase you were lazy you just forgot to mention thor was amped while trying to pass his feat of as a norm?

Your not using the term right at all. You did post feats and fail to mention that thor was amp.

See here your problem, your posting his highest feats, I am not. I never attempted to. All i did was match yours. I was trying to go for consistence.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
hahahaha.

Honestly you could not have picked a worse example. For starters, what I posted was relevent. Spidy and thor are both being discussed in terms of speed, Spidy was stated by Thor as having superior speed. It quite relevant, despite your distaste for it.

However how on earth is Mavius relevent? You do realise he has the sourcer supreme almost pissing him pants, That was before he became full powered, That guy wolverine "speed" is not helping him with, is one of the most powerful beings in marvel. The enitre alpha flight was there as well, You might want to actually read the comic. He was beating the shit out of them. He also had an army of wendigo with him (and not the pussy once from recent years) and was blacking magic out of his hands and was signicantly amp. By far the most powerful and fastest wendigo there has ever been one one of the top sources ever.

So you're done with the entire Blood and Thunder thing? Good.

What I posted was also relevant. Look at the scans. So something has to include at least two of the characters being discussed here to be relevant?

I read the issue, I know Alpha Flight was present. Again, the point of the scan was to show that Wolverine's speed being ineffective as I'm almost certain was the point of your scan. He smacked Wolverine away, and caught his arm. Just because his a powerful cannibalistic sorcerer doesn't somehow invalidate it. If you hadn't notice, he was beating Wolverine down with his bare hands.

It's relevant just as this:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/MCP152-09.jpg

If I simply wanted to embarrass Wolverine, I'd post Sasquatch, Wendigo, Jahf, Mosses Magnum encounters etc.

For the record, Masterson was no Thor:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMastersonThor2.jpg

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He was clearly amp. Are you gunna try and pretend he wasent?

You not posting scans is not the problem. The problem is you posting two scans completely out of context failing to mention that he was amp. Your reason is not a good excuse, becuase you were lazy you just forgot to mention thor was amped while trying to pass his feat of as a norm?

Your not using the term right at all. You did post feats and fail to mention that thor was amp.

See here your problem, your posting his highest feats, I am not. I never attempted to. All i did was match yours. I was trying to go for consistence.

He was not amped. Thor during Blood and Thunder was not under Warrior Madness. Thor during Blood and Thunder was simply insane. Was it a higher end portrayal? Yes, but so what?

Enough with this idiocy and strawmanning. Make an actual argument or concede.

At no point did I limit myself to using Thor's mediocre showings like him deflecting bullets and such. I also did not leave out any context, Thor was not amped but crazy. Christ, everyone and their mother knows that fight was from Blood and Thunder.

There's no excuse because I don't need an excuse. I did absolutely nothing wrong.

Now stop with this stupidity. It's early and I'm in no mood for this. This is bordering on outright trolling.

Haha oh please. Those didn't include at least some of Logan's best showings of speed? If not, then post his greatest speed feats.

Harbinger
Lulz at how thoroughly this thread got derailed.

Uriel005
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He was clearly amp. Are you gunna try and pretend he wasent?


You not posting scans is not the problem. The problem is you posting two scans completely out of context failing to mention that he was amp. Your reason is not a good excuse, becuase you were lazy you just forgot to mention thor was amped while trying to pass his feat of as a norm?

Your not using the term right at all. You did post feats and fail to mention that thor was amp.

See here your problem, your posting his highest feats, I am not. I never attempted to. All i did was match yours. I was trying to go for consistence. Speedforce is constantly growing with every step Flash takes IIRC

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So you're done with the entire Blood and Thunder thing? Good.

My theory was proven correct, Im good. There zero reason to debate amp version of a characters speed.


Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What I posted was also relevant. Look at the scans. So something has to include at least two of the characters being discussed here to be relevant?

No it was not at all relevant. All you did was post scans of a character that should beat wolverine 100 out of 100 times and the character was winning. what relevant to that in terms of are debate?



Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So you're done with the entire Blood and Thunder thing? Good.

My theory was proven correct, Im good. There zero reason to debate amp version of a characters speed, so I says so.


Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
read the issue, I know Alpha Flight was present. Again, the point of the scan was to show that Wolverine's speed being ineffective as I'm almost certain was the point of your scan. He smacked Wolverine away, and caught his arm. Just because his a powerful cannibalistic sorcerer doesn't somehow invalidate it. If you hadn't notice, he was beating Wolverine down with his bare hands.

It more then an issue long, the fight it self take roughly 3 to 5 issues. So your idea of relevance was showing wolverine speed to be ineffective against a being who scares the shit out of the sorcerer supreme has the body of the most powerful wendigo ever, and on top of that is wicked powerful magic user with thousands of years of experience.......right roll eyes (sarcastic)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's relevant just as this:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/MCP152-09.jpg

except this one not relevant or did you not know wolverine form that scan has nonexistent healing factor for the most part and was near death for extremely long time


Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I simply wanted to embarrass Wolverine, I'd post Sasquatch, Wendigo, Jahf, Mosses Magnum encounters etc.

Sorry, but this is pathetic. I post a scan to help support my arguement that Spiderman/wolverine combat speed is better then Thors. So you instead go a head and try to get back at me for posting evidence, by trying to find extremely embarrassing showings for wolverine? Despite how irrelevant they are? And then on top of that you post this nonsense which was pretty much a threat to post a bunch of even more irrelevant moments in wolverine career? Your a class act you know that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
the record, Masterson was no Thor:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMastersonThor2.jpg

I would not have posted it, if I had known he was inferior, my mistake sorry.


Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
was not amped. Thor during Blood and Thunder was not under Warrior Madness. Thor during Blood and Thunder was simply insane. Was it a higher end portrayal? Yes, but so what?
Yes he was, dont play games. Even if it not warrior madness which it very well could be , because Bill states warrior madness and indicates thor, however scan was to small for me to read out the last bit to be certain. This idea that he was not amp is simply BS. Bill makes direct statement that madness is givng Thor more strength. Warlock directly states he faster then before. There few other implication as well in the text. So to deny that he was amp is just bull faced lie. Not to mention the fact, you can clearly see it in the fight, He was bursting with absurd amount of energy. He took bill out with single blast, he was complete unbothered by silver surfer attacks and warlocks. Oh and even enrage no holding back Surfer got beasted. So this idea it a high showing, and he amp is extreme denial and wishful thinking on your part.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Enough with this idiocy and strawmanning. Make an actual argument or concede.

You did not use that term correctly in the least. And your just pissed I called you out on your BS. I glad I did, because you should not do shit like that it shady.




Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
At no point did I limit myself to using Thor's mediocre showings like him deflecting bullets and such. I also did not leave out any context, Thor was not amped but crazy. Christ, everyone and their mother knows that fight was from Blood and Thunder.
Dont even try that crap. nice going with the dramatic card. So me saying you need to let people in to the fact you are using amp version of the character as evidence or that you should be going with consistence showing, for you translated into limiting one self to mediocre showings roll eyes (sarcastic) Come one now.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
no excuse because I don't need an excuse. I did absolutely nothing wrong.

you keep telling your self that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
stop with this stupidity. It's early and I'm in no mood for this. This is bordering on outright trolling.

Then man the **** up. And dont sit there and insult my intelligence with BS answer.


Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Haha oh please. Those didn't include at least some of Logan's best showings of speed? If not, then post his greatest speed feats.
I did not post you wolverine best showings, I very rarely post him at his best. Carver may have, posted some, but I sure did not.

Why should I post them? you provide some evidence that proves Thor is superior combat speed wise. I gladly beat it.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Harbinger
Lulz at how thoroughly this thread got derailed. lol...I love how any thread with thor ends up a wolverine vs thor discussion laughing out loud

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Starscream M
lol...I love how any thread with thor ends up a wolverine vs thor discussion laughing out loud
it not even wolverine vs thor, It wolverine/spiderman combat speed versus Thors.

I might not have made that clear in my last post.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
it not even wolverine vs thor, It wolverine/spiderman combat speed versus Thors.

I might not have made that clear in my last post. I just love the fact that even though Thor has faced the likes of hulk, juggernaut, gladiator, surtur, loki, etc...it ends up that a hairy canadian runt becomes his foil

Dum Dum Dugan
Originally posted by Starscream M
I just love the fact that even though Thor has faced the likes of hulk, juggernaut, gladiator, surtur, loki, etc...it ends up that a hairy canadian runt becomes his foil
Wolverine foughten all those guys as well, but that besides the point, it was never about who wins. Thor would clearly. But rather there combat speed. Thor I believe has much lower combat speed then people like to admit.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor wins on average.



Lol, that's not what happened. Starscream is right -shocker- that Thor caught him with a ground and pound tactic.



Straight up bullshit unless you're talking about this thread specifically. Explain how thor beats someone he can't touch.

Rage.Of.Olympus

Rage.Of.Olympus

carver9

Dum Dum Dugan

Starscream M
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
i some how completely missed it. I apologies for being an ass hole. I just haven't slept in over 48 hours and are still working on a paper. I really am sorry, that was uncalled for by me.
I hope your grammar on your paper is better than your grammar on your KMC posts.

Prep-Man
Lol! Stop with the Wolverine/Thor debate. So we're all in agreement that Bart wins on average?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I wanted to apologies. I did not see before that you had responded telling me what the context of those scans were. i some how completely missed it. I apologies for being an ass hole. I just haven't slept in over 48 hours and are still working on a paper. I really am sorry, that was uncalled for by me.


I respond to the rest of the posts including the one page or so back, I you mention when I have time.




So are you debating by kmc rules or not? I just little confused based off one of your post were you seem to imply your not, but perhaps I miss read it.

Without looking back, I think I told you that right when I told you the issue number. Is that why you were pretending like I was trying to deceive you or something? I'd never to do that.

You'll respond to it later? I'm fine with that.

What? Can you quote me or something? I'm a little confused by what you mean.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Starscream M
I hope your grammar on your paper is better than your grammar on your KMC posts. He hasn't slept for 48 hrs. That make give him a spelling impediment.

batdude123
Originally posted by Black bolt z
He hasn't slept for 48 hrs. That make give him a spelling impediment.

Plus, you know, the whole dyslexia thing...

Don Corleone
Originally posted by Black bolt z
He hasn't slept for 48 hrs. That make give him a spelling impediment.

We're also assuming the paper is in English. Maybe he's from another country and is good writing English.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, wow. I just think he doesn't give a shit while typing on KMC. Some are more structured with their grammar than others without putting some effort into it.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Black bolt z
He hasn't slept for 48 hrs. That make give him a spelling impediment. Have you also not slept for 48 hrs?

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Starscream M
Have you also not slept for 48 hrs? Thats not misspelling. Thats putting the wrong word stick out tongue.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thats not misspelling. Thats putting the wrong word stick out tongue. neither word makes sense erm

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Starscream M
neither word makes sense erm If I put might give it makes sense.

See I didn't misspell the word might. I just accidently put the work make instead of might.

Mindset
Originally posted by Starscream M
neither word makes sense erm "Might" instead of "make", Brucey.

Come on.

Rage.Of.Olympus
A detective of his caliber would have solved it eventually.

batdude123
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, wow. I just think he doesn't give a shit while typing on KMC. Some are more structured with their grammar than others without putting some effort into it.

Plus, like I said: dyslexia.

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