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Flash and Zoom are CISless

Frankly a easy speed steal and and a zillion IMPS to the Presence's face should be more than enough to beat the presence. In fact im sorry i made a spite thread.

You should be, the Presence is lacking in feats, therefore he loses.

Presence on account of the fact that all creation including the speedforce is within his control.

Like C master said Presence has zero speed feats, so by KMC loigic he loses.

Yep. The speed force probably created Presence anyways.